Magic Sign G Jalen Suggs to a 5 year, 150.5M Contract Extension

[Knightro]

It's more about staying below first apron than having money to actually sign anybody who isn't own FA.

Team with two picked team's options is in luxury as soon as next year.

I can assure you the Magic will not pay the luxury tax next season.

The Magic have VERY carefully crafted the salary sheet so that won't happen.

And then next year when Paolo's money spikes, it will be offset by Moe and Gary being off the books. If they REALLY need more space, they can just dump Cole via their team option too.

Plus KCP can opt out if he wants to which would put them way under if that happens. And he'll be gone the year after anyway.

Franz, KCP, Banchero, JI, Cole , Suggs, Carter,Black, Goga, Harris, daSilva, Jett = $175M- guaranteed salary.

Mortiz $11M
Harris $7M
Joseph $3,5M
Houstan $2,8M

Red are team options

+ random 2025 first round pick , let's put him at $2,8 (22th pick ) + if they keep Nuggets pick some random $2,4M

luxury tax : $187 895 000

Everybody can figure rest.

I played yesterday with 2026-27 salary cap but i figured some roster changes will happen so it's far away to be insightful. We know for fact that Banchero's salary will start at $43M , or $51M depending if he can play himself into Derrick Rose rule. Rest is speculation.

They'll just whack Harris and be under.

[Skybox]

The descending nature is great. It's still a lot of money based on a reasonable projection of his progress. Emotionally, I love it and I could easily see him becoming the clear emotional leader (like a Marcus Smart w/Tatum, Brown) and retire here.

I also think ORL is moving into serious territory...like any realistic contender, the roster is becoming more top-heavy, salary-wise. This is a big year for Mo and Cole, in particular, because good teams CAN'T pay end of the bench guys more than vet mins...the 11th-13th men should become basically irrelevant as the top 7 or 8 dominate the rotation (and the payroll)...the decent, but marginalized guys will have to emerge and jump ahead of others to justify their deals or move out. It's just the way it goes. Young upcoming teams can afford to got 12 deep with prospects and mentors and less than elite specialists...but once those big salaries start going out, there's a bit more urgency to prioritize winning.

Treadmill incoming?

I hope not...but it's very possible. They just paid BIG extensions to guys that aren't worthy YET...If they continue to develop at the same rate - huge win. If they stagnate, yeah - treadmill...because we're fully financially committed to this core for years. I'll be positive and I do believe that it's reasonable to bet on those two...but it's not obvious how it's going to work out, to anyone being honest.

[Bakomagic]

Magic Fans: "We are never able to sign any big contracts in free agency it is stupid of them to waste their time with that strategy".

Also Magic fans: "Why are we signing these big contracts that won't allow us to sign anyone in free agency!"

I am fine with our signings to this point. there is plenty of flexibility via non gurantee years, contract sizing allowing for trades, de-escalating amounts and additional draft picks (and are own) avialable to entice trades.

Our core is young, versatile, talented, ascending, motivated and of high character. Welt/Ham/Park has done a really good job to this point!

Excited for our present and future!!!

[yoyojw17]

Magic Fans: "We are never able to sign any big contracts in free agency it is stupid of them to waste their time with that strategy".

Also Magic fans: "Why are we signing these big contracts that won't allow us to sign anyone in free agency!"

I am fine with our signings to this point. there is plenty of flexibility via non gurantee years, contract sizing allowing for trades, de-escalating amounts and additional draft picks (and are own) avialable to entice trades.

Our core is young, versatile, talented, ascending, motivated and of high character. Welt/Ham/Park has done a really good job to this point!

Excited for our present and future!!!

Summarized my thoughts! Thanks! Lol

[Blue_and_Whte]

Comparable to what AG and Jalen Johnson got.
Locked in! Let’s go!!

[VFX]

It's more about staying below first apron than having money to actually sign anybody who isn't own FA.

Team with two picked team's options is in luxury as soon as next year.

I can assure you the Magic will not pay the luxury tax next season.

The Magic have VERY carefully crafted the salary sheet so that won't happen.

And then next year when Paolo's money spikes, it will be offset by Moe and Gary being off the books. If they REALLY need more space, they can just dump Cole via their team option too.

Plus KCP can opt out if he wants to which would put them way under if that happens. And he'll be gone the year after anyway.

Franz, KCP, Banchero, JI, Cole , Suggs, Carter,Black, Goga, Harris, daSilva, Jett = $175M- guaranteed salary.

Mortiz $11M
Harris $7M
Joseph $3,5M
Houstan $2,8M

Red are team options

+ random 2025 first round pick , let's put him at $2,8 (22th pick ) + if they keep Nuggets pick some random $2,4M

luxury tax : $187 895 000

Everybody can figure rest.

I played yesterday with 2026-27 salary cap but i figured some roster changes will happen so it's far away to be insightful. We know for fact that Banchero's salary will start at $43M , or $51M depending if he can play himself into Derrick Rose rule. Rest is speculation.

This isn't really the thread for it, but I could see this FO moving on from Cole, Gary, and JI. Now, that might not be super popular but I think it makes sense in the long run working with the money and roster situation.

This all comes down to the development of AB, Jett, and da Silva. I'd also be VERY surprised to see them move Moritz just based off Franz. This is the kind of organization that likes those kinds of stories.

[RichCollab]

I can assure you the Magic will not pay the luxury tax next season.

The Magic have VERY carefully crafted the salary sheet so that won't happen.

And then next year when Paolo's money spikes, it will be offset by Moe and Gary being off the books. If they REALLY need more space, they can just dump Cole via their team option too.

We just resigned JI and front loaded his contract.

Gary and Cole I’m not sure anyone would care though I do like both guys off the court.

I actually think we may move on from Moe.

Plus KCP can opt out if he wants to which would put them way under if that happens. And he'll be gone the year after anyway.

Franz, KCP, Banchero, JI, Cole , Suggs, Carter,Black, Goga, Harris, daSilva, Jett = $175M- guaranteed salary.

Mortiz $11M
Harris $7M
Joseph $3,5M
Houstan $2,8M

Red are team options

+ random 2025 first round pick , let's put him at $2,8 (22th pick ) + if they keep Nuggets pick some random $2,4M

luxury tax : $187 895 000

Everybody can figure rest.

I played yesterday with 2026-27 salary cap but i figured some roster changes will happen so it's far away to be insightful. We know for fact that Banchero's salary will start at $43M , or $51M depending if he can play himself into Derrick Rose rule. Rest is speculation.

This isn't really the thread for it, but I could see this FO moving on from Cole, Gary, and JI. Now, that might not be super popular but I think it makes sense in the long run working with the money and roster situation.

This all comes down to the development of AB, Jett, and da Silva. I'd also be VERY surprised to see them move Moritz just based off Franz. This is the kind of organization that likes those kinds of stories.

[RichCollab]

I’m actually hoping we move on from Cole and replace him with Mac on a cheap contract next offseason.

[SOUL]

I’m actually hoping we move on from Cole and replace him with Mac on a cheap contract next offseason.

I don't think we want to get smaller and even worse lol. It'll just be AB or Jett getting promoted with more minutes if Cole is moved.

[Knightro]

I can assure you the Magic will not pay the luxury tax next season.

The Magic have VERY carefully crafted the salary sheet so that won't happen.

And then next year when Paolo's money spikes, it will be offset by Moe and Gary being off the books. If they REALLY need more space, they can just dump Cole via their team option too.

Plus KCP can opt out if he wants to which would put them way under if that happens. And he'll be gone the year after anyway.

Franz, KCP, Banchero, JI, Cole , Suggs, Carter,Black, Goga, Harris, daSilva, Jett = $175M- guaranteed salary.

Mortiz $11M
Harris $7M
Joseph $3,5M
Houstan $2,8M

Red are team options

+ random 2025 first round pick , let's put him at $2,8 (22th pick ) + if they keep Nuggets pick some random $2,4M

luxury tax : $187 895 000

Everybody can figure rest.

I played yesterday with 2026-27 salary cap but i figured some roster changes will happen so it's far away to be insightful. We know for fact that Banchero's salary will start at $43M , or $51M depending if he can play himself into Derrick Rose rule. Rest is speculation.

This isn't really the thread for it, but I could see this FO moving on from Cole, Gary, and JI. Now, that might not be super popular but I think it makes sense in the long run working with the money and roster situation.

This all comes down to the development of AB, Jett, and da Silva. I'd also be VERY surprised to see them move Moritz just based off Franz. This is the kind of organization that likes those kinds of stories.

They just gave JI a 5 year deal, man. He's not going anywhere

[RookieStar]

Magic Fans: "We are never able to sign any big contracts in free agency it is stupid of them to waste their time with that strategy".

Also Magic fans: "Why are we signing these big contracts that won't allow us to sign anyone in free agency!"

I am fine with our signings to this point. there is plenty of flexibility via non gurantee years, contract sizing allowing for trades, de-escalating amounts and additional draft picks (and are own) avialable to entice trades.

Our core is young, versatile, talented, ascending, motivated and of high character. Welt/Ham/Park has done a really good job to this point!

Excited for our present and future!!!

Couldn't said it better than myself.

[UCF]

Franz, KCP, Banchero, JI, Cole , Suggs, Carter,Black, Goga, Harris, daSilva, Jett = $175M- guaranteed salary.

Mortiz $11M
Harris $7M
Joseph $3,5M
Houstan $2,8M

Red are team options

+ random 2025 first round pick , let's put him at $2,8 (22th pick ) + if they keep Nuggets pick some random $2,4M

luxury tax : $187 895 000

Everybody can figure rest.

I played yesterday with 2026-27 salary cap but i figured some roster changes will happen so it's far away to be insightful. We know for fact that Banchero's salary will start at $43M , or $51M depending if he can play himself into Derrick Rose rule. Rest is speculation.

This isn't really the thread for it, but I could see this FO moving on from Cole, Gary, and JI. Now, that might not be super popular but I think it makes sense in the long run working with the money and roster situation.

This all comes down to the development of AB, Jett, and da Silva. I'd also be VERY surprised to see them move Moritz just based off Franz. This is the kind of organization that likes those kinds of stories.

They just gave JI a 5 year deal, man. He's not going anywhere

His deal compared to others is a bargain for his production (when healthy).

[Last Guardian]

I mean last season he was a lights out shooter. High volume 40%. And he's an elite defender. He was going to cost some money.

[RichCollab]

I’m actually hoping we move on from Cole and replace him with Mac on a cheap contract next offseason.

I don't think we want to get smaller and even worse lol. It'll just be AB or Jett getting promoted with more minutes if Cole is moved.

Mac would be 3rd string and not play much. Just a cheap contract.

[Anti Chalmers]

26M in 29-30 is only going to be like 11% of the salary cap.

29-30 will also be last year of his contract. Ditto to Franz.

Megamax for Banchero or Franz would be starting around $85-92M a year

It’s crazy to think players will make 9 figures a year in the near future

[drsd]

26M in 29-30 is only going to be like 11% of the salary cap.

29-30 will also be last year of his contract. Ditto to Franz.

Megamax for Banchero or Franz would be starting around $85-92M a year

It’s crazy to think players will make 9 figures a year in the near future

Banchero's extension after his max extension will be in the 5-year 500M range.
The NBA could pay him 1,000,000,000.00 in salary over his professional career, if he lasts to 18-20 years.

[JoshuaPotter]

The descending nature is great. It's still a lot of money based on a reasonable projection of his progress. Emotionally, I love it and I could easily see him becoming the clear emotional leader (like a Marcus Smart w/Tatum, Brown) and retire here.

I also think ORL is moving into serious territory...like any realistic contender, the roster is becoming more top-heavy, salary-wise. This is a big year for Mo and Cole, in particular, because good teams CAN'T pay end of the bench guys more than vet mins...the 11th-13th men should become basically irrelevant as the top 7 or 8 dominate the rotation (and the payroll)...the decent, but marginalized guys will have to emerge and jump ahead of others to justify their deals or move out. It's just the way it goes. Young upcoming teams can afford to got 12 deep with prospects and mentors and less than elite specialists...but once those big salaries start going out, there's a bit more urgency to prioritize winning.

Treadmill incoming?

I hope not...but it's very possible. They just paid BIG extensions to guys that aren't worthy YET...If they continue to develop at the same rate - huge win. If they stagnate, yeah - treadmill...because we're fully financially committed to this core for years. I'll be positive and I do believe that it's reasonable to bet on those two...but it's not obvious how it's going to work out, to anyone being honest.

I'd like to say I called the extension at around this price per season. That being said, like you I also fear the treadmill. Similarly, like others have said, I also think that the likelihood of us aquiring talent via a trade demand to us is low while a free agency destination is even lower. This changes a little bit if we suddenly see that our core makes us top 2-4, but I am not sure I see that just yet. I think we are on a treadmill pattern for this year, and possibly next year while Paolo - Franz - Suggs - Black - Howard finish out their rookie contracts and go into their new contracts.

The future is fairly bright at the moment.

[VFX]

Not sure where all this treadmill talk is coming from.

You guys are talking like this is the sixth or seventh year of Vucevic/Fournier/AG led offense with players in their late 20’s.

This core is nowhere near their prime and Orlando is never signing or trading for a star. Sorry to break it to you guys that believe every organization in this league has the same advantages.

Orlando still had a lot of ancillary contracts and duplicative players they can move. Unfortunately that won’t matter if they just expire like every other player under this FO.

Re-signing core players isn’t the problem. Re-signing dead weight that doesn’t fit is the problem.

It’s like complaining that you don’t like the paint color of your walls when your house is on fire. Why? Because despite what they are trying to sell everyone, development is the most important aspect of this team right now. Orlando isn’t contending this year. They have to know handing money to AB and Jett in the near future is absolutely worth it.

[Bergmaniac]

A fair deal for both sides, about what I expected in the current market.

[eyriq]

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