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GAME 1: HEAT VS MAGIC - 23RD OCTOBER 2024 @ 7:30PM

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Re: GAME 1: HEAT VS MAGIC - 23RD OCTOBER 2024 @ 7:30PM 

Post#321 » by Shootit » Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:05 am

Extend Jimmy!
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Post#322 » by Johnny Fontane » Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:18 am

Watch out of respect to the distant past Heat greats but there’s zero attachment/ engagement with this team and most fans. To say it’s run its course is an understatement
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Post#323 » by Umbooki » Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:23 pm

Johnny Fontane wrote:Watch out of respect to the distant past Heat greats but there’s zero attachment/ engagement with this team and most fans. To say it’s run its course is an understatement

Damn. I Just realized that I bought League Pass for this team. It’s never fun when the team lays an egg, but I’ll see what the vibes are like after the Wade Statue game.
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Post#324 » by HeatFan_NC » Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:31 pm

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marson wrote:It’s just one game, but the real issue is still with the starting lineup. Rozier and Herro don’t complement each other, it feels like watching the same player twice.

Butler is cruising as usual.

You can’t blame Bam for this one; the Magic's length really gave him trouble.

I just want to see Burks, Larsson, and Ware get meaningful minutes this season.

It’s not just one game. It’s the same issues and players of the last few years. It’s like groundhog day


We don't have a team, just a collection of players wearing the same jersey. The Magic have a team! The parts and pieces complement one another. We're like a patchwork quilt that grandma used to make: a bunch of random pieces with no true cohesion just thrown together to make something that looks useful
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Re: GAME 1: HEAT VS MAGIC - 23RD OCTOBER 2024 @ 7:30PM 

Post#325 » by HeatFan_NC » Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:34 pm

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DayofMourning wrote:Tankathon has us 5th in the draft.

VJ Edgecombe.

Explosive shooting guard from the Bahamas. Meant to be?

If we trade Butler need to atleast get a 2026 first to lighten the blow of tanking this year. I don’t feel like Butler makes it past the deadline here.


The Jimmy situation is going to be a long running saga that hangs over the season until he's traded.
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Post#326 » by HeatFan_NC » Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:40 pm

Bishop45 wrote:The magic have a better team but our stars could’ve been better


Many might not like this, but I think Banchero has already surpassed Bam. I've been watching basketball for several decades and I can see intangibles in him that Bam doesn't have.
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Post#327 » by HeatFan_NC » Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:46 pm

Front office needs to make up their minds and decide who they want to build around, Herro or Bam, and get on with it. Go ahead and trade Jimmy to either PHI or GS. He's done with Miami. Should have traded him after the last run to the Finals. Jimmy and Herro would be my picks to trade before the deadline.

Might as well go ahead and throw Ware out there and let him get some on the job training.
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Post#328 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:04 pm

This team is still running Jovic and Jagsmith at the 4 spot. Probably the worst 4 rotation in the association. I’d rather be dealing with Ware and Keldon Johnson getting reps and rotation minutes even if we lose.
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Post#329 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:06 pm

Jovic couldn’t barely get any run for team Serbia and i don’t even want to hear about any injury. He’s not a front court player. He’s point Winnie reincarnate with a slightly better shot.
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Post#330 » by twozeroMM » Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:31 pm

So much to pick apart from last night, but one thing on my mind is a decision is going to have to be made with Tyler and Terry. They can't start together, and both are best when they can have the freedom to work.
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Post#331 » by Kobewade11 » Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:54 pm

twozeroMM wrote:So much to pick apart from last night, but one thing on my mind is a decision is going to have to be made with Tyler and Terry. They can't start together, and both are best when they can have the freedom to work.


Idk..I feel like Herro, particularly in the first half, did exactly what people wanted him to do. He sat in the corner, didn't over dribble, and his shots were either open 3s or going to the basket. Even Rozier played with pace and got downhill. I agree its not the ideal pairing for a starting backcourt, but they weren't the problem yesterday.
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Post#332 » by Shootit » Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:23 pm

Going to wait till the 5-10 game mark to really get a feeling how this season may go.
In regards to Jimmy, if he's going to not go 100% due to the contract, Pat has got to look to move him.
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Post#333 » by oreon » Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:25 pm

HeatFan_NC wrote:Front office needs to make up their minds and decide who they want to build around, Herro or Bam, and get on with it. Go ahead and trade Jimmy to either PHI or GS. He's done with Miami. Should have traded him after the last run to the Finals. Jimmy and Herro would be my picks to trade before the deadline.

Might as well go ahead and throw Ware out there and let him get some on the job training.


Neither are players you build around. If Butler isn't capable of being no 1 option anymore then find someone who can. If you can't might as well blow it up and go the tank route. Bam at his best is a 3rd option, maybe with an improved 3 point shot he can be a 2nd option. But I don't think he can be a guy you can go to game to game to generate offense for a full season
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Post#334 » by BigDaddyPR » Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:28 pm

Bourne85 wrote:I’m not even a little surprised. Bring back the same team, lose key guys, give massive raises to role players like Highsmiths, sprinkle in a few rookies you’re never gonna play. Puts us squarely where we have always been, play in territory hoping for another “miracle run”.

Sure sure it’s one game, the first game w.e. Realize other teams have massively improved and we have done NOTHING. Unprotected first round pick to get off the Lowry contract, a tax saving move. To bring in a guy, Scary, that everytime I look at the box score he is 5-15 or worse. Inefficient, overpaid, undersized, scrub

THIS. It gets no simpler than this. All teams getting better and were constantly loosing key players and we keep betting on development and maximizing very limited players potentials. Front Office has been on vacation for at least the last 3 or 4 years. I even get envy when I see teams like Boston, NY or Philly.... even if it doesnt works you can see their FO at least constantly TRYING to make their teams better. I try to be positive but It is frustrating.
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Post#335 » by al bondiga » Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:29 pm

I'm still thinking about... Something that maybe We haven't factored in in about last night... I know that there is a thousand woes about this team and we are mediocre

But something The play by play guys said last Night towards the end of the game Stuck with me...

He said They are high hopes for this team... Which is obviously are Dumb Expectations...this group Or team are not the answer... So I question myself...Does this group hate Riley and last night Was some sort of Balance of will and power???
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Post#336 » by HeatFan_NC » Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:07 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Jovic couldn’t barely get any run for team Serbia and i don’t even want to hear about any injury. He’s not a front court player. He’s point Winnie reincarnate with a slightly better shot.


It might take time for him, but I just don't see a whole lot of upside with him. I see him as Danillo Gallinari type player.
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Post#337 » by dshearn » Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:12 pm

Bishop45 wrote:The magic have a better team but our stars could’ve been better



My take away is this was a new way to loose......

Use to watching Herro and Duncan hunted to death.....this Magic just abused whomever was in front of them

Whole team looked slow.... I don't know the stats but even lock down Bam was blown by....

Maybe Bam held his dude down more than it feels like...but it sure feels different.

If the team is as slow as it appeared...they better at least get long....
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Post#338 » by Flash4thewin » Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:13 pm

Good to see our players mirror our front office energy and effort. i feel bad for people who paid to watch this game in person when they have so many other options to spend their money on since it’s Miami.
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Post#339 » by HeatFan_NC » Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:17 pm

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HeatFan_NC wrote:Front office needs to make up their minds and decide who they want to build around, Herro or Bam, and get on with it. Go ahead and trade Jimmy to either PHI or GS. He's done with Miami. Should have traded him after the last run to the Finals. Jimmy and Herro would be my picks to trade before the deadline.

Might as well go ahead and throw Ware out there and let him get some on the job training.


Neither are players you build around. If Butler isn't capable of being no 1 option anymore then find someone who can. If you can't might as well blow it up and go the tank route. Bam at his best is a 3rd option, maybe with an improved 3 point shot he can be a 2nd option. But I don't think he can be a guy you can go to game to game to generate offense for a full season


Yeah, I have never viewed Bam as a number 1 option, but you can add stars around him. The organization apparently thinks he can be "the guy" based on the contracts he's gotten. You would think they learned a lesson from the Whiteside debacle.
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Re: GAME 1: HEAT VS MAGIC - 23RD OCTOBER 2024 @ 7:30PM 

Post#340 » by HeatFan_NC » Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:22 pm

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Bishop45 wrote:The magic have a better team but our stars could’ve been better



My take away is this was a new way to loose......

Use to watching Herro and Duncan hunted to death.....this Magic just abused whomever was in front of them

Whole team looked slow.... I don't know the stats but even lock down Bam was blown by....

Maybe Bam held his dude down more than it feels like...but it sure feels different.

If the team is as slow as it appeared...they better at least get long....


Except for Jimmy and JJJ, everyone else lacks versatility in their game. Herro is a spot up shooter. Duncan is too. Bam is limited on offense and undersized. Rozier can't defend. Jovic is a role player

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