OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!)

[Stannis]

Since the other thread is approaching 100 pages with an ever-changing thread title....

Who are you voting for?

Do you have any local/state politicians you are a fan of?

What are your most important issues/topics for this election?

Did you already vote and was it an easy process?

[spree8]

Bernie

[HarthorneWingo]

As a member and supporter of humanity, I can't say that I'll be voting for Harris on Election Day without her changing her stance on Israel/Palestine. I'm sorry but I can't vote for anyone who supports the genocide of an indigenous and defenseless population. And I can’t vote for somebody who will co time to commit the war crimes that Biden administration has committed.

Harris needs to separate herself from Biden and call for an arms embargo on Israel, along with reparations for the Palestinians and a whole lot more. And that will never happen. So I plan on voting for Jill Stein. Oh, and I live in Pennsylvania. So if you want my vote, start pushing Kamala to where she needs to be. Also, there are 120,000 Muslims in Pennsylvania so she either better go get all those moderate republicans and independents or she's up Sheets Creak. American-Muslim citizens will not vote for her. Period.

[robillionaire]

I voted yesterday for Harris in North Carolina, not sure what I’ll do when the bad man wins since my family are the enemies within but man am I glad I got that dual citizenship in my pocket, good luck everyone

[Meat]

Nov 5th is also my birthday

[thebuzzardman]

Me

[Luv those Knicks]

I don't understand how this is even a choice, but shockingly, nearly 40% of the country seems to really like Trump. I'm embarrassed for my country.

[Stannis]

As a member and supporter of humanity, I can't say that I'll be voting for Harris on Election Day without her changing her stance on Israel/Palestine. I'm sorry but I can't vote for anyone who supports the genocide of an indigenous and defenseless population. And I can’t vote for somebody who will co time to commit the war crimes that Biden administration has committed.

Harris needs to separate herself from Biden and call for an arms embargo on Israel, along with reparations for the Palestinians and a whole lot more. And that will never happen. So I plan on voting for Jill Stein. Oh, and I live in Pennsylvania. So if you want my vote, start pushing Kamala to where she needs to be. Also, there are 120,000 Muslims in Pennsylvania so she either better go get all those moderate republicans and independents or she's up Sheets Creak. American-Muslim citizens will not vote for her. Period.

Sorry to hear this, my brother. I know it must have been a tough decision as you were set to vote for Kamala not too long ago. But things are looking bleak, especially with Cheney in the spotlight now for whatever reason.

If I was in a swing state, I probably would have held out until the last day just to see if she budges at all. But I'm not in a swing state, so I went ahead and early voted for Dr. Cornel West.

I kinda wish I voted for Jill Stein as she will likely be the leading 3rd party candidate. But I think 3rd parties in general will help get the message across for the next cycle. Maybe the loser of the Dem or Republican party will take the anti-war/humane approach next election to rake in that 5%, probably way more.

[Stannis]

I don't understand how this is even a choice, but shockingly, nearly 40% of the country seems to really like Trump. I'm embarrassed for my country.

I wouldn't say 40% of this country "really likes Trump". It's probably less than that.

But I guess 46% of the country rather have him over Kamala, who can be viewed as unlikable like Hillary Clinton. But even she managed to rack up 3 million more votes than Donald.

So really, all the fear is in the Electoral College, and this is the only reason this is even "close". I can say without a doubt, that Kamala will get more votes than Trump. I'm betting it could be by a wider margin than 2016, but not as much as 2020.

Just analyzing the electoral map, Trump just looks favored though.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Wow. Voting for losers? Voting against this nations interests by not voting for Kamala because of another countries issues? We really have gone off the rails as a nation. This whole Israel/Gaza issue has been going on for 80 years and people will chose the most dangerous election to make a protest vote? Good job. When America fails because of your actions you will run to the hills I am sure. If you are so concerned about Gaza...go over their and take up arms. I guess the Jews that have died in this war don't warrant enough of your concern. Kamala isn't responsible for the war over there or the decision making up to this point. Congress approves the money being spent over their as well. Good job people.

If Trump wins, you will have sealed their fate anyway. Perhaps you should get off your soapbox and do some critical thinking.

[Jalen Bluntson]

If you want a third party to vote for you need to do that in local elections. There will never be a third party based on presidential elections alone.

[Clyde_Style]

Wow. Voting for losers? Voting against this nations interests by not voting for Kamala because of another countries issues? We really have gone off the rails as a nation. This whole Israel/Gaza issue has been going on for 80 years and people will chose the most dangerous election to make a protest vote? Good job. When America fails because of your actions you will run to the hills I am sure. If you are so concerned about Gaza...go over their and take up arms. I guess the Jews that have died in this war don't warrant enough of your concern. Kamala isn't responsible for the war over there or the decision making up to this point. Congress approves the money being spent over their as well. Good job people.

If Trump wins, you will have sealed their fate anyway. Perhaps you should get off your soapbox and do some critical thinking.

Yes. I really wish this notion that Harris is responsible for Biden's policies would stop, but you can't be the Vice President and go rogue on your President. Do that and it becomes the other story of her being a disloyal creep. She can't win this battle right now. After January 20th she'll be the one who decides what to do about Netanyahu.

I feel the same way about Gaza as pretty much everyone else, but the aid to Israel is appropriated by Congress and the diplomatic stance is chosen by her boss, not Harris. What Hamas did was horrific. It was a massacre, the pogrom that every Jew feared historically. Bibi's actions are genocidal as well, but he has more ability to cause harm than Hamas and he has done it.

I do think Harris will need to draw a line in the sand with Israel after being elected, but I also agree that it is literally insane to risk a vote in any swing state over this. To say your moral outrage over Palestine justifies facilitating the rise of fascism in your own country is stupefyingly myopic. If only life were so simple, but it isn't. Yes, our country feeds Israel weapons and a line needs to be drawn, but you do not solve that by electing a POS that is in bed with Netanyahu and Putin and will be an even worse answer to the issues in the ME. That's literally insane.

[Clyde_Style]

As a member and supporter of humanity, I can't say that I'll be voting for Harris on Election Day without her changing her stance on Israel/Palestine. I'm sorry but I can't vote for anyone who supports the genocide of an indigenous and defenseless population. And I can’t vote for somebody who will co time to commit the war crimes that Biden administration has committed.

Harris needs to separate herself from Biden and call for an arms embargo on Israel, along with reparations for the Palestinians and a whole lot more. And that will never happen. So I plan on voting for Jill Stein. Oh, and I live in Pennsylvania. So if you want my vote, start pushing Kamala to where she needs to be. Also, there are 120,000 Muslims in Pennsylvania so she either better go get all those moderate republicans and independents or she's up Sheets Creak. American-Muslim citizens will not vote for her. Period.

Sorry to hear this, my brother. I know it must have been a tough decision as you were set to vote for Kamala not too long ago. But things are looking bleak, especially with Cheney in the spotlight now for whatever reason.

If I was in a swing state, I probably would have held out until the last day just to see if she budges at all. But I'm not in a swing state, so I went ahead and early voted for Dr. Cornel West.

I kinda wish I voted for Jill Stein as she will likely be the leading 3rd party candidate. But I think 3rd parties in general will help get the message across for the next cycle. Maybe the loser of the Dem or Republican party will take the anti-war/humane approach next election to rake in that 5%, probably way more.

If you voted for West because you were not in a swing state, sure OK, if you think he's your choice I have no quarrel with that.

But please get Stein out of your head man. She's funded by the Kremlin. You should know this already. Jesus man

[Jalen Bluntson]

Wow. Voting for losers? Voting against this nations interests by not voting for Kamala because of another countries issues? We really have gone off the rails as a nation. This whole Israel/Gaza issue has been going on for 80 years and people will chose the most dangerous election to make a protest vote? Good job. When America fails because of your actions you will run to the hills I am sure. If you are so concerned about Gaza...go over their and take up arms. I guess the Jews that have died in this war don't warrant enough of your concern. Kamala isn't responsible for the war over there or the decision making up to this point. Congress approves the money being spent over their as well. Good job people.

If Trump wins, you will have sealed their fate anyway. Perhaps you should get off your soapbox and do some critical thinking.

Yes. I really wish this notion that Harris is responsible for Biden's policies would stop, but you can't be the Vice President and go rogue on your President. Do that and it becomes the other story of her being a disloyal creep. She can't win this battle right now. After January 20th she'll be the one who decides what to do about Netanyahu.

I feel the same way about Gaza as pretty much everyone else, but the aid to Israel is appropriated by Congress and the diplomatic stance is chosen by her boss, not Harris. What Hamas did was horrific. It was a massacre, the pogrom that every Jew feared historically. Bibi's actions are genocidal as well, but he has more ability to cause harm than Hamas and he has done it.

I do think Harris will need to draw a line in the sand with Israel after being elected, but I also agree that it is literally insane to risk a vote in any swing state over this. To say your moral outrage over Palestine justifies facilitating the rise of fascism in your own country is stupefyingly myopic. If only life were so simple, but it isn't. Yes, our country feeds Israel weapons and a line needs to be drawn, but you do not solve that by electing a POS that is in bed with Netanyahu and Putin and will be an even worse answer to the issues in the ME. That's literally insane.

This. I had this discussion elsewhere and it was wild to me. Like, foreign affairs are extremely important but, this issue will be made even worse if Trump wins. No ifs ands or buts about it. Then we will also have all of the dysfunction he will bring to the table in our own country to boot. You won't be able to protest for Palestine anymore.

[Clyde_Style]

Read on Twitter

Not what I expected to see tonight

Felt like these guys hang out after hours as in they have an abiding professional respect between highly paid windbag broadcasters and that SAS is basically an anyone but Trump Republican. IDGAF though. It's SAS who is not much more than a Hoover vacuum with a fashion budget

[HarthorneWingo]

As a member and supporter of humanity, I can't say that I'll be voting for Harris on Election Day without her changing her stance on Israel/Palestine. I'm sorry but I can't vote for anyone who supports the genocide of an indigenous and defenseless population. And I can’t vote for somebody who will co time to commit the war crimes that Biden administration has committed.

Harris needs to separate herself from Biden and call for an arms embargo on Israel, along with reparations for the Palestinians and a whole lot more. And that will never happen. So I plan on voting for Jill Stein. Oh, and I live in Pennsylvania. So if you want my vote, start pushing Kamala to where she needs to be. Also, there are 120,000 Muslims in Pennsylvania so she either better go get all those moderate republicans and independents or she's up Sheets Creak. American-Muslim citizens will not vote for her. Period.

Sorry to hear this, my brother. I know it must have been a tough decision as you were set to vote for Kamala not too long ago. But things are looking bleak, especially with Cheney in the spotlight now for whatever reason.

If I was in a swing state, I probably would have held out until the last day just to see if she budges at all. But I'm not in a swing state, so I went ahead and early voted for Dr. Cornel West.

I kinda wish I voted for Jill Stein as she will likely be the leading 3rd party candidate. But I think 3rd parties in general will help get the message across for the next cycle. Maybe the loser of the Dem or Republican party will take the anti-war/humane approach next election to rake in that 5%, probably way more.

I’m gonna wait until the end in the very off chance she changes her mind but she hasn’t given me any hope of that. If fact, she appears to be in lockstep with Biden’s pro-genocide policy.

[Jalen Bluntson]

As a member and supporter of humanity, I can't say that I'll be voting for Harris on Election Day without her changing her stance on Israel/Palestine. I'm sorry but I can't vote for anyone who supports the genocide of an indigenous and defenseless population. And I can’t vote for somebody who will co time to commit the war crimes that Biden administration has committed.

Harris needs to separate herself from Biden and call for an arms embargo on Israel, along with reparations for the Palestinians and a whole lot more. And that will never happen. So I plan on voting for Jill Stein. Oh, and I live in Pennsylvania. So if you want my vote, start pushing Kamala to where she needs to be. Also, there are 120,000 Muslims in Pennsylvania so she either better go get all those moderate republicans and independents or she's up Sheets Creak. American-Muslim citizens will not vote for her. Period.

Sorry to hear this, my brother. I know it must have been a tough decision as you were set to vote for Kamala not too long ago. But things are looking bleak, especially with Cheney in the spotlight now for whatever reason.

If I was in a swing state, I probably would have held out until the last day just to see if she budges at all. But I'm not in a swing state, so I went ahead and early voted for Dr. Cornel West.

I kinda wish I voted for Jill Stein as she will likely be the leading 3rd party candidate. But I think 3rd parties in general will help get the message across for the next cycle. Maybe the loser of the Dem or Republican party will take the anti-war/humane approach next election to rake in that 5%, probably way more.

I’m gonna wait until the end in the very off chance she changes her mind but she hasn’t given me any hope of that. If fact, she appears to be in lockstep with Biden’s pro-genocide policy.

She called for a cease fire. That is the first step. She cannot do anything unless she gets elected. Trump thinks Bibi is doing a good job. So you KNOW it will not end. More likely Trump pushes more money at him for some favors. This is far more likely than Harris keeping things the same. Simple logic.

You don't want to at least have a chance for things to change? There is no way she wants to risk the election taking a hard stance either way but, at least she took a stance that provides even the slightest glimmer of hope for those poor people.

We know for a fact that Trump will help Bibi. So what's the end game? Sacrifice our nation and theirs because of the current policies?

[HarthorneWingo]

Sorry to hear this, my brother. I know it must have been a tough decision as you were set to vote for Kamala not too long ago. But things are looking bleak, especially with Cheney in the spotlight now for whatever reason.

If I was in a swing state, I probably would have held out until the last day just to see if she budges at all. But I'm not in a swing state, so I went ahead and early voted for Dr. Cornel West.

I kinda wish I voted for Jill Stein as she will likely be the leading 3rd party candidate. But I think 3rd parties in general will help get the message across for the next cycle. Maybe the loser of the Dem or Republican party will take the anti-war/humane approach next election to rake in that 5%, probably way more.

I’m gonna wait until the end in the very off chance she changes her mind but she hasn’t given me any hope of that. If fact, she appears to be in lockstep with Biden’s pro-genocide policy.

She called for a cease fire. That is the first step. She cannot do anything unless she gets elected. Trump thinks Bibi is doing a good job. So you KNOW it will not end. More likely Trump pushes more money at him for some favors. This is far more likely than Harris keeping things the same. Simple logic.

You don't want to at least have a chance for things to change? There is no way she wants to risk the election taking a hard stance either way but, at least she took a stance that provides even the slightest glimmer of hope for those poor people.

We know for a fact that Trump will help Bibi. So what's the end game? Sacrifice our nation and theirs because of the current policies?

Aside of the humanitarian and legal reasons, my entire family is Muslim. My parents friends that I grew up with were mostly Muslim. My cousins are Muslim on both sides. Harris doesn’t give a damn about us. She doesn’t want our vote, clearly. She thinks that she can win this without us. Okay, go ahead. I cannot vote for someone who will be complicit in genocide and commit war crimes.

[Jalen Bluntson]

I’m gonna wait until the end in the very off chance she changes her mind but she hasn’t given me any hope of that. If fact, she appears to be in lockstep with Biden’s pro-genocide policy.

She called for a cease fire. That is the first step. She cannot do anything unless she gets elected. Trump thinks Bibi is doing a good job. So you KNOW it will not end. More likely Trump pushes more money at him for some favors. This is far more likely than Harris keeping things the same. Simple logic.

You don't want to at least have a chance for things to change? There is no way she wants to risk the election taking a hard stance either way but, at least she took a stance that provides even the slightest glimmer of hope for those poor people.

We know for a fact that Trump will help Bibi. So what's the end game? Sacrifice our nation and theirs because of the current policies?

Aside of the humanitarian and legal reasons, my entire family is Muslim. My parents friends that I grew up with were mostly Muslim. My cousins are Muslim on both sides. Harris doesn’t give a damn about us. She doesn’t want our vote, clearly. She thinks that she can win this without us. Okay, go ahead. I cannot vote for someone who will be complicit in genocide and commit war crimes.

You have no idea what she will be complicit in. I fail to see any logic in your words. You KNOW it will stay the same or worse under Trump and you will risk sacrificing this country as well? This makes zero sense to me. You're throwing the baby out with the bath water.

[HarthorneWingo]

She called for a cease fire. That is the first step. She cannot do anything unless she gets elected. Trump thinks Bibi is doing a good job. So you KNOW it will not end. More likely Trump pushes more money at him for some favors. This is far more likely than Harris keeping things the same. Simple logic.

You don't want to at least have a chance for things to change? There is no way she wants to risk the election taking a hard stance either way but, at least she took a stance that provides even the slightest glimmer of hope for those poor people.

We know for a fact that Trump will help Bibi. So what's the end game? Sacrifice our nation and theirs because of the current policies?

Aside of the humanitarian and legal reasons, my entire family is Muslim. My parents friends that I grew up with were mostly Muslim. My cousins are Muslim on both sides. Harris doesn’t give a damn about us. She doesn’t want our vote, clearly. She thinks that she can win this without us. Okay, go ahead. I cannot vote for someone who will be complicit in genocide and commit war crimes.

You have no idea what she will be complicit in. I fail to see any logic in your words. You KNOW it will stay the same or worse under Trump and you will risk sacrificing this country as well? This makes zero sense to me. You're throwing the baby out with the bath water.

Everything I’ve said is completely logical, Captain. You may not agree with it but it does make sense.

Harris hasn’t distanced herself one iota from Biden’s present war crimes/genocide policy and she’s been asked plenty of times. She’s going to continue the same fcking shyt. She has 12 days to separate herself. I’ll wait.