Trae Young is Ridiculously Underrated

Astaluego · Post #841 » by **Astaluego** » Tue Jun 4, 2024 3:05 pm

Commit to rebuilding with him..

Change 1.. (WOLVES)

D.Murray+Capela+Kings FRP for R.Gobert

Change 2 (NOP)
Hunter+1 for H.Jones/D.Daniels+21

Change 3 (GRIZZLIES)

OO+21 for 9/Aldama.

*9..D.Knech

TraeY/Knech/H.Jones/JJ/Gobert
Daniels/Bogdan/Griffin/Bey/Aldama

Rainwater · Post #842 » by **Rainwater** » Tue Jun 4, 2024 3:28 pm

Godymas wrote:
Rainwater wrote:
Godymas wrote:Trae might legitimately get moved this off season and all the blame belongs to the FO of Atlanta. Like anyone clear as day knows Trae Young would be a god next to AD or Wemby, I mean he could even do magic with Gobert. Atlanta got Trae Young Clint Capela and it's been a travesty.

You make it seem like guys like Wemby and AD grow on trees, lol. Even a guy like Gobert is not that attainable, you are talking about a 3 time defensive player of the year.

This just shows that Trae is not the lead star that many people claim him to be. In addition this shows the difficulty in building around Trae that you have to surround him with a real superstar to have a chance to win and his faults.

The difference between Trae and true stars is that a true star would find ways to surpass their own personal deficiencies and that of their teammates to find ways to win. Doncic is not a great defender but still leads his team to wins. Giannis can’t shoot but the bucks still win. I really don’t think Trae is good enough, as the main guy, where his team can win despite his inefficient shooting on high usage, poor defense, bad shot section, and his many turnovers. It’s just too much.

Gobert was 100% attainable that off season when Atlanta dumped all their picks on Dejounte Murray

Luka was not winning anything until the FO made the right moves and got him guys like PJ Washington and Daniel Gafford. The team was completely different after the FO made those moves.

All I am saying is that you make it seem simple to get guys like Wemby, Davis, and Gobert. Even if somehow available, 29 other teams are also trying to get these guys and may have better packages. Cleveland gave up Lauri, Sexton, and 4 draft picks if i remember correctly for Gobert. I don't think ATL would have beat such a deal.

And there is massive deference between pursuing Washington and Garford compared to a Wemby, Davis, and Gobert. You are comparing the attainability and availability of stars to role players.

Anyway I think the issue with the Hawks is not the front office but trying to build around a very flawed player.

Woodsanity · Post #843 » by **Woodsanity** » Tue Jun 4, 2024 5:35 pm

I think he synergizes incredibly well with Wemby. Spurs should definitely chase after him.

dc · Post #844 » by dc » Tue Jun 4, 2024 5:48 pm

Woodsanity wrote:I think he synergizes incredibly well with Wemby. Spurs should definitely chase after him.

Any above average PG would synergize well with Wemby. The Spurs have time and a lot of assets. They aren't in a position where they need to overpay for a PG or make a move out of desperation. It's not as if Wemby is a ringless 29 year old and the Spurs are desperately trying to make moves to keep him happy.

Woodsanity · Post #845 » by **Woodsanity** » Tue Jun 4, 2024 5:51 pm

dc wrote:
Woodsanity wrote:I think he synergizes incredibly well with Wemby. Spurs should definitely chase after him.

Any above average PG would synergize well with Wemby. The Spurs have time and a lot of assets. They aren't in a position where they need to overpay for a PG or make a move out of desperation. It's not as if Wemby is a ringless 29 year old and the Spurs are desperately trying to make moves to keep him happy.

I wouldn't give up a lot of assets for him. His value is pretty low atm and the Hawks are looking to trade him.
Truthfully I think he is a lot better fit than Murray for the Spurs.

DelAbbot · Post #846 » by **DelAbbot** » Tue Jun 4, 2024 5:56 pm

Spurs would do better pairing Wemby with Darius Garland than Trae

Sixers in 4 · Post #847 » by **Sixers in 4** » Tue Jun 4, 2024 5:58 pm

Woodsanity wrote:
dc wrote:
Woodsanity wrote:I think he synergizes incredibly well with Wemby. Spurs should definitely chase after him.

Any above average PG would synergize well with Wemby. The Spurs have time and a lot of assets. They aren't in a position where they need to overpay for a PG or make a move out of desperation. It's not as if Wemby is a ringless 29 year old and the Spurs are desperately trying to make moves to keep him happy.

I wouldn't give up a lot of assets for him. His value is pretty low atm and the Hawks are looking to trade him.
Truthfully I think he is a lot better fit than Murray for the Spurs.

His best fit is a team like the Lakers who are going to be over the cap anyways and have some veterans/expirings they can move.

Sort of the same logic that caused the LAC to trade for Harden not that I think either is particularly a smart move but if you are over the tax and have money to spend what do you care if the fit isn't great or Trae is overrated.

He'll basically be free anyways and you window is 2-3 years max with Lebron. The question is can he play off the ball and can AD stay healthy and cleanup the mistakes on the defensive end but its not the Lakers are going to have a ton of options. So why not?

Ball4life32 · Post #848 » by **Ball4life32** » Tue Jun 4, 2024 6:33 pm

Woodsanity wrote:
dc wrote:
Woodsanity wrote:I think he synergizes incredibly well with Wemby. Spurs should definitely chase after him.

Any above average PG would synergize well with Wemby. The Spurs have time and a lot of assets. They aren't in a position where they need to overpay for a PG or make a move out of desperation. It's not as if Wemby is a ringless 29 year old and the Spurs are desperately trying to make moves to keep him happy.

I wouldn't give up a lot of assets for him. His value is pretty low atm and the Hawks are looking to trade him.
Truthfully I think he is a lot better fit than Murray for the Spurs.

Hawks want to trade him based on what? They have never once put him on the market….and if they did, they are certainly not selling low and not getting a lot of assets back for him. Media convinces people the Hawks want to trade all their players cheap.

Sixers in 4 wrote:
Woodsanity wrote:
dc wrote:
Any above average PG would synergize well with Wemby. The Spurs have time and a lot of assets. They aren't in a position where they need to overpay for a PG or make a move out of desperation. It's not as if Wemby is a ringless 29 year old and the Spurs are desperately trying to make moves to keep him happy.

I wouldn't give up a lot of assets for him. His value is pretty low atm and the Hawks are looking to trade him.
Truthfully I think he is a lot better fit than Murray for the Spurs.

His best fit is a team like the Lakers who are going to be over the cap anyways and have some veterans/expirings they can move.

Sort of the same logic that caused the LAC to trade for Harden not that I think either is particularly a smart move but if you are over the tax and have money to spend what do you care if the fit isn't great or Trae is overrated.

He'll basically be free anyways and you window is 2-3 years max with Lebron. The question is can he play off the ball and can AD stay healthy and cleanup the mistakes on the defensive end but its not the Lakers are going to have a ton of options. So why not?

Lakers certainly don't have appealing enough assets to get him and not sure what you mean he'd be basically free. Not similar at all to expiring 33 year old Harden demanding a trade publicly.

ReddoverKobe · Post #849 » by **ReddoverKobe** » Tue Jun 4, 2024 8:25 pm

Remember when people tried to say Trae was better then Luka and that trade was not one of the worst trades ever?

Celts17Pride · Post #850 » by **Celts17Pride** » Wed Jun 5, 2024 1:08 pm

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Post #851 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Jun 13, 2024 7:46 pm

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Celts17Pride · Post #852 » by **Celts17Pride** » Thu Jun 13, 2024 7:50 pm

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How many points did he generate for the other team?

Post #853 » by **Jamaaliver** » Sat Oct 26, 2024 2:49 am

Had to do it...

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One_and_Done · Post #854 » by **One_and_Done** » Sat Oct 26, 2024 2:52 am

Jamaaliver wrote:Had to do it...

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Incredible that he managed to put up these stats and eek out wins against the Nets and the Millerless Hornets.

Post #855 » by **Jamaaliver** » Sat Oct 26, 2024 3:01 am

One_and_Done wrote:Incredible that he managed to put up these stats and eek out wins against the Nets and the Millerless Hornets.

Yes. it was incredible. :nod:

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One_and_Done · Post #856 » by **One_and_Done** » Sat Oct 26, 2024 3:34 am

Jamaaliver wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:Incredible that he managed to put up these stats and eek out wins against the Nets and the Millerless Hornets.

Yes. it was incredible.

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Plus he had to contend with LaMelo for 29 minutes before he fouled out. Gritty.

Post #857 » by **Diop** » Sat Oct 26, 2024 3:45 am

Dyson Daniels fits perfectly beside him. Helps him instead of wanting the ball

flytimes11 · Post #858 » by **flytimes11** » Sat Oct 26, 2024 4:20 am

Trae Young is better than Brunson, Hali, Maxey, Donovan Mitchell, Lamelo, and Ja… only young guards I would take over Trae are Shai and Luka.

wco81 · Post #859 » by **wco81** » Fri Mar 14, 2025 6:59 pm

So what's the Hawk's strategy?

Now they have a lot of good 2-way wings around him, Dyson, JJ.

Why did they trade away Hunter?

Would have liked to seen a full season with all healthy.

Saw big jumps in improvement by Dyson and JJ. Other teams saw jumps like Mobley for the Cavs. Why not bet on all the youth with high ceilings?

jayu70 · Post #860 » by **jayu70** » Fri Mar 14, 2025 7:24 pm

wco81 wrote:So what's the Hawk's strategy?

Now they have a lot of good 2-way wings around him, Dyson, JJ.

Why did they trade away Hunter?

Would have liked to seen a full season with all healthy.

Saw big jumps in improvement by Dyson and JJ. Other teams saw jumps like Mobley for the Cavs. Why not bet on all the youth with high ceilings?

I think most Hawks fans would have loved to have seen a healthy JJ.
I think the Hawks are in fact betting on their young lengthy 2-way wings in Dyson 21(SG), Risacher 19 (SF) and JJ 23 (PF) as the starters around Trae with solid vet depth on the bench.