OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!)

[MrDollarBills]

I've asked multiple times in this thread about this and it's been crickets. That kind of tells me everything tbh because Trump's open collusion with Bibi literally undercuts the argument that people in here are using regarding Gaza and the Palestinians and why they're voting 3rd party or not at all.

What I keep coming back to is why the hell isn't Bibi getting the Putin treatment then? I mean, we already established he's working behind-the-scenes with Trump...

With all due respect, this just comes off as weak and non-presidential. It's not a good look when a foreign leader can pull strings on a US leader. This isn't voters getting played. It's honestly the current administration, including Kamala.

Muslim voters in particular have been very patient here and are actually trying really hard to vote for Kamala. Just look Wingo for example. Since I've been on this board, he's been a staunch democrat supporter. Just recently he only started questioning things and he's still giving Kamala a very last minute chance. That's honestly some incredible loyalty.

This is a pivotal moment for dems if they truly want these votes. But it looks like they are trying their luck with the Liz Cheneys and other neocons of the world (the same ones who loved George W "freedom bombs").

I've already laid out my criticism of Biden. We are in agreement 100%. Joe's Israel/Gaza foreign policy has been a disaster and he looks weak for not slapping Bibi down once he crossed several red lines. The Woodward reporting on this made Joe look like a complete fool that got played.

The US will not treat Bibi like Putin due to the strategic alliance that he keeps straining and weakening with his behavior. But we know full well now that this is apart of his historical pattern of election interference in US politics. He is targeting the sensibilities of people who are rightfully angered over Gaza. He and Trump are working together, and here is where the disconnect is:

Harris' official stance is to push for and broker for a complete cease fire and an end to hostilities. Hamas has been massacred at the top level (and frankly, good. F*ck them for what they did), it's time for this to end. I personally don't think based on what I've seen from Harris and her stance on the matter that she will allow herself to get rolled by Bibi. The fact that Bibi is working with Trump should tell you everything. He is afraid of her, and frankly Bibi is a racist pig, so that probably also plays a role.

Trump's stance is to derail and peace initiatives, which he has already admitted to doing, and to let Bibi wipe the entire Palestinian population out in one shot. He does not care.

By voting 3rd party/not voting, that only helps Trump and Bibi. We can debate whether or not this is a slow death vs a fast death situation, because that point has merit, but in no way shape or form does it make sense to help Trump get back into power if the plight of the Palestinians is sincerely what matters to you and others with your viewpoint. Help me to understand that?

[Worm Guts]

It also reverts back to Trump is bad or other people who we are supposed to follow think Trump is bad ....the focus should be on policies imo.

Is that your way of saying you don't really care that Trump is a rapist and almost certainly a pedophile, a criminal, a deadbeat and a traitor?

Maybe those negative traits in a person don't mean anything to you, but I think it is a mark of basic sanity to actually care that the leader of your country does not have that horrendous collection of detrimental qualities.

Assuming I 100% believed all those accusations ( I don't), no more than I care that Kamala is a social climber who slept with Willie Brown to get put on politically , threw black parent into jail for "truant" kids while masquerading as a black woman- when she's really from a slave owner family. It all comes down to who I think would do best for the country.

How do you question whether Harris is black? Are you blind?

[HarthorneWingo]

Not sure whether my liking him or his creepiness would matter. Either you agree or disagree.I agree with what he said re Kamala's popularity. What do you think?

If you insist …

I think that Kamala has popularity problems some of which are systemic in nature based on how she was forced into the race, some of them are due to flaws in her campaign strategy and in failing to address certain issues in the way that I’d hoped she would. That’s just my opinion. Her campaign is clearly targeting specific demographics in specific countries. So she not trying to speak to me.

As for that video, however, I could only watch 1:43 before I began to get physically nauseous. So I don’t know what was said after that.

You may have issues with parts of the Harris campaign platform, but based on her current attachment to the Biden Administration policies, Harris is walking a very unusual fine line. She is still Biden's wingman and as Vice President, she didn't get to set policy. As was mentioned the other day, Harris has to run flawless while campaigning and supporting the current administration, while Trump is being allowed to run lawless. Voting against Harris, isn't necessarily voting in your best interest. There is a reason, that there is a long list of Ex-Generals that reported to Trump, Ex-Trump Cabinet members, Ex-Trump Administration people and a long list of Economists and Scientists that are warning voters, that a vote for Trump, is a vote against democracy and also a vote against the best interests of the American people.

The only other time in recent history where a VP ran for President while serving under a Dem President was Hubert Humphrey in '68 when LBJ was still in office. This was during the Vietnam War. Finally, during the campaign Humphrey separated himself from LBJ and called for the end of the War. This is what Harris must do, IMO. The American people do not want to go to war (i.e. boots on the ground) against Iran, Russia, China, Turkey, Yemen, et al. But that will, obviously, piss off AIPAC.

[Pointgod]

Is that your way of saying you don't really care that Trump is a rapist and almost certainly a pedophile, a criminal, a deadbeat and a traitor?

Maybe those negative traits in a person don't mean anything to you, but I think it is a mark of basic sanity to actually care that the leader of your country does not have that horrendous collection of detrimental qualities.

Assuming I 100% believed all those accusations ( I don't), no more than I care that Kamala is a social climber who slept with Willie Brown to get put on politically , threw black parent into jail for "truant" kids while masquerading as a black woman- when she's really from a slave owner family. It all comes down to who I think would do best for the country.

How do question whether Harris is black? Are you blind?

He’s a Trump supporter. All of the things he said about Harris have been proven to be lies but he easily repeats the misinformation. They literally can’t defend voting for Trump so they create alternate realities.

[MrDollarBills]

The tweet with the lady really resonated with me. This is someone who lives through a pivotal time in history where the government kept her from voting and she has the receipts to prove it. It’s a shame that so many young people, especially young black people are choosing to throw away their vote or not bother to show up at all. 100% of the black vote should go to the Democratic Party because they are not the party that’s fighting to go back to a time where black people had to pay a poll tax.

Unfortunately the younger kids are disillusioned with the entire system. I can't say i blame them, I remember how I felt. It's hard to shake that feeling that no one cares about you and nothing that you do matters. It's kind of driven into you especially if you grow up in areas with high crime and poverty.

Hell, the reason i ended up getting registered years ago was because a Black woman who worked behind the counter at the DMV did it for me when I got my license renewed for the first time. I initially refused but she talked me into agreeing, and been voting in every election since then. I hope she's doing well, and I hope one day I can pay it forward.

Good story. A good deed that gave you lasting benefits.

Absolutely.

I've been thinking about it but at some point I'm going to apply to become a volunteer to work at the polls in my old hometown. I never changed my address on my registration so I still go there to vote every year. Usually the poll workers are *surprise* older Black women and some older gents but today I saw two guys i knew from back in the day my age working there. Basically they were there to help feed data into the machines for each voter but also to watch the place in case some crazies tried to mess with the other poll workers. I want in on that. It's the least I can do.

Also I assumed it was free volunteer work but the state actually pays a decent hourly rate for in person early voting, and all workers get a $300 payment on top of that for working election day. Not bad.

[MrDollarBills]

People that want Trump to win:

Bibi.

Putin.

Elon "If Harris wins i might be going to prison" Musk.

Jeff Bezos.

Peter Thiel

Other piece of sh*t billionaires who don't want to pay their taxes and institute Project 2025 via JD Vance.

I couldn't have been more happier to cast my vote down ballot for VP Harris and everyone under her name.

[Kampuchea]

Read on Twitter

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Stay strong all other party voters, no need to vote for any other candidate.

I do like Butch Ware.

A white Jewish lady working with a Black Muslim man. Love to see it!

I thought you had learned something from the past and had wised up enough not to be a complete sucker for alt right vote siphoning operations.

A few virtue signalling tokens here and there and you're impressed.

I was wrong. I overestimated your capacity for discernment.

Always going for the personal attack of others that don’t share your viewpoint. Maybe try not to do that for a change? Poor form

[MrDollarBills]

Is that your way of saying you don't really care that Trump is a rapist and almost certainly a pedophile, a criminal, a deadbeat and a traitor?

Maybe those negative traits in a person don't mean anything to you, but I think it is a mark of basic sanity to actually care that the leader of your country does not have that horrendous collection of detrimental qualities.

Assuming I 100% believed all those accusations ( I don't), no more than I care that Kamala is a social climber who slept with Willie Brown to get put on politically , threw black parent into jail for "truant" kids while masquerading as a black woman- when she's really from a slave owner family. It all comes down to who I think would do best for the country.

How do you question whether Harris is black? Are you blind?

This is Kamala and her father:



Again, when someone starts questioning someone's racial or ethnic purity, not only is that literal nazism, but it's also absurd when you can take two seconds to search and see that her father Donald Harris is an Afro Caribbean man. He's Black. She's Black. Her sister is Black. She's a proud HBCU alum. This is bottom of the barrel intelligence stuff when you resort to this garbage, nevermind the misogyny.

Dudes will come on here, call Kamala a whore with a straight face while they support a man who cheated on his wife when she was pregnant with a porn actress and is a court adjudicated rapist. Embarrassing behavior.

[Clyde_Style]

Assuming I 100% believed all those accusations ( I don't), no more than I care that Kamala is a social climber who slept with Willie Brown to get put on politically , threw black parent into jail for "truant" kids while masquerading as a black woman- when she's really from a slave owner family. It all comes down to who I think would do best for the country.

How do you question whether Harris is black? Are you blind?

This is Kamala and her father:



Again, when someone starts questioning someone's racial or ethnic purity, not only is that literal nazism, but it's also absurd when you can take two seconds to search and see that her father Donald Harris is an Afro Caribbean man. He's Black. She's Black. Her sister is Black. She's a proud HBCU alum. This is bottom of the barrel intelligence stuff when you resort to this garbage, nevermind the misogyny.

Dudes will come on here, call Kamala a whore with a straight face while they support a man who cheated on his wife when she was pregnant with a porn actress and is a court adjudicated rapist. Embarrassing behavior.

Read on Twitter

[Clyde_Style]

I do like Butch Ware.

A white Jewish lady working with a Black Muslim man. Love to see it!

I thought you had learned something from the past and had wised up enough not to be a complete sucker for alt right vote siphoning operations.

A few virtue signalling tokens here and there and you're impressed.

I was wrong. I overestimated your capacity for discernment.

Always going for the personal attack of others that don’t share your viewpoint. Maybe try not to do that for a change? Poor form

Yeah, you're fair game because the only thing you ever contribute to this forum are your lurker drive-by posts where you show up in the middle of anyone else's arguments to post an asinine graphic or your pathetic posts that both parties are equally corrupt.

You're absolutely the worst poster on RealGM.

As someone who has been stalking me and lobbing insults for a decade you don't get to lecture me about who is insulting who you damn clown.

Next time you post your BS expect to be answered like the low IQ creeper that you are.

[MrDollarBills]

How do you question whether Harris is black? Are you blind?

This is Kamala and her father:



Again, when someone starts questioning someone's racial or ethnic purity, not only is that literal nazism, but it's also absurd when you can take two seconds to search and see that her father Donald Harris is an Afro Caribbean man. He's Black. She's Black. Her sister is Black. She's a proud HBCU alum. This is bottom of the barrel intelligence stuff when you resort to this garbage, nevermind the misogyny.

Dudes will come on here, call Kamala a whore with a straight face while they support a man who cheated on his wife when she was pregnant with a porn actress and is a court adjudicated rapist. Embarrassing behavior.

Read on Twitter

THANK YOU.

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. How is it that Trump behaves like Archie Bunker on crack and gets a pass by Kamala gets put under the microscope.

I mean, we know why. But it's still aggravating to see this happen and the media is leading the charge.

Everything Michelle said was true. Not one lie.

[RHODEY]

Is that your way of saying you don't really care that Trump is a rapist and almost certainly a pedophile, a criminal, a deadbeat and a traitor?

Maybe those negative traits in a person don't mean anything to you, but I think it is a mark of basic sanity to actually care that the leader of your country does not have that horrendous collection of detrimental qualities.

Assuming I 100% believed all those accusations ( I don't), no more than I care that Kamala is a social climber who slept with Willie Brown to get put on politically , threw black parent into jail for "truant" kids while masquerading as a black woman- when she's really from a slave owner family. It all comes down to who I think would do best for the country.

OK, so your answer is you don't care if he is a rapist. 10-4

Nah thats your answer.

[RHODEY]

Assuming I 100% believed all those accusations ( I don't), no more than I care that Kamala is a social climber who slept with Willie Brown to get put on politically , threw black parent into jail for "truant" kids while masquerading as a black woman- when she's really from a slave owner family. It all comes down to who I think would do best for the country.

How do you question whether Harris is black? Are you blind?

This is Kamala and her father:



Again, when someone starts questioning someone's racial or ethnic purity, not only is that literal nazism, but it's also absurd when you can take two seconds to search and see that her father Donald Harris is an Afro Caribbean man. He's Black. She's Black. Her sister is Black. She's a proud HBCU alum. This is bottom of the barrel intelligence stuff when you resort to this garbage, nevermind the misogyny.

Dudes will come on here, call Kamala a whore with a straight face while they support a man who cheated on his wife when she was pregnant with a porn actress and is a court adjudicated rapist. Embarrassing behavior.

Watch on YouTube

[Clyde_Style]

Assuming I 100% believed all those accusations ( I don't), no more than I care that Kamala is a social climber who slept with Willie Brown to get put on politically , threw black parent into jail for "truant" kids while masquerading as a black woman- when she's really from a slave owner family. It all comes down to who I think would do best for the country.

OK, so your answer is you don't care if he is a rapist. 10-4

Nah thats your answer.

No, that was your answer. You don't care that Trump sexually abuses women if his "policies" suit you.

[Clyde_Style]

Just got back from voting.

Squeezed into the last 20 minutes of the day. There were a dozen poll workers, all older folks and maybe one other voter.

Glad to have my vote in.

Now we wait.

[MrDollarBills]

How do you question whether Harris is black? Are you blind?

This is Kamala and her father:



Again, when someone starts questioning someone's racial or ethnic purity, not only is that literal nazism, but it's also absurd when you can take two seconds to search and see that her father Donald Harris is an Afro Caribbean man. He's Black. She's Black. Her sister is Black. She's a proud HBCU alum. This is bottom of the barrel intelligence stuff when you resort to this garbage, nevermind the misogyny.

Dudes will come on here, call Kamala a whore with a straight face while they support a man who cheated on his wife when she was pregnant with a porn actress and is a court adjudicated rapist. Embarrassing behavior.

Watch on YouTube

I love a good YouTube rebuttal.

Is that the same Candace Owens who praised Hitler and her only critique is that she wished he could have kept his genocidal activities inside of Germany?

Read on Twitter

Oh yeah it is.

I won't bring up the antisemitic dog whistles either.

[Clyde_Style]

This is Kamala and her father:



Again, when someone starts questioning someone's racial or ethnic purity, not only is that literal nazism, but it's also absurd when you can take two seconds to search and see that her father Donald Harris is an Afro Caribbean man. He's Black. She's Black. Her sister is Black. She's a proud HBCU alum. This is bottom of the barrel intelligence stuff when you resort to this garbage, nevermind the misogyny.

Dudes will come on here, call Kamala a whore with a straight face while they support a man who cheated on his wife when she was pregnant with a porn actress and is a court adjudicated rapist. Embarrassing behavior.

Watch on YouTube

I love a good YouTube rebuttal.

Is that the same Candace Owens who praised Hitler and her only critique is that she wished he could have kept his genocidal activities inside of Germany?

Read on Twitter

Oh yeah it is.

I won't bring up the antisemitic dog whistles either.

Rhodey keeps going back to her for some reason. She's a black Nazi like Mark Robinson.

[Stannis]

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

[Tomato Sauce]

Do people actually like Kamala, or do people just hate trump?

[Clyde_Style]

Do people actually like Kamala, or do people just hate trump?

Both.

Out country is full of racism and misogyny and I resent it, especially when a highly qualified woman of color is running for the highest office and is being challenged on her racial credentials and her qualifications to perform her job compared to a moronic and psychotic rapist traitor reality show host.