Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5

[WentzerWuver]

Jake Fischer (...) reported today that the Sixers are trying trade for a Kuminga-like player

tradeable salary / up for big payday

“a lot of willingness to go deep into the tax” (most important detail)

Kuminga wants a max extension. They are already wasting enough money. Could try to lift Jacquez out of Miami. Tari Eason everybody likes and Houston can't extend everybody and go 2nd apron before even making a playoff run.

We don't care what he wants as long as our guys get what they want. Winning can help make that happen.

[WentzerWuver]

Kuminga wants a max extension. They are already wasting enough money. Could try to lift Jacquez out of Miami. Tari Eason everybody likes and Houston can't extend everybody and go 2nd apron before even making a playoff run.

Really hoping it’s Eason. Would love a McCain-Eason swap.

I keep being confused by this. I'd be excited if we got Eason but he won't come cheap at all--at minimum be McCain + good pick(s)--plus he's a weak shooter that we don't know could be playable deeper in the PO. Do folks just think he'd be relatively cheap because HOU has too many young guys?

I would not trade McCain for Eason straight up. Jared is going to explode like AR15 in this league.

[ProcessDoctor]

Kuminga wants a max extension. They are already wasting enough money. Could try to lift Jacquez out of Miami. Tari Eason everybody likes and Houston can't extend everybody and go 2nd apron before even making a playoff run.

Really hoping it’s Eason. Would love a McCain-Eason swap.

I keep being confused by this. I'd be excited if we got Eason but he won't come cheap at all--at minimum be McCain + good pick(s)--plus he's a weak shooter that we don't know could be playable deeper in the PO. Do folks just think he'd be relatively cheap because HOU has too many young guys?

I think his value would land at McCain + one 1st. As you alluded, he's offensively limited but is a stellar defender and rebounder.

Maxey/Lowry/Jackson
Martin/Gordon/(FA/Prospect)
George/Oubre/Council
Eason/Yabusele/Martin
Embiid/Drummond/Bona

The other player to keep an eye on is Jarace Walker. He only played 6 minutes in Indiana's opener.

[stormi]

Jake Fischer (...) reported today that the Sixers are trying trade for a Kuminga-like player

tradeable salary / up for big payday

“a lot of willingness to go deep into the tax” (most important detail)

Kuminga wants a max extension. They are already wasting enough money. Could try to lift Jacquez out of Miami. Tari Eason everybody likes and Houston can't extend everybody and go 2nd apron before even making a playoff run.

I think if there's any chance of us being able to keep up with the volume shooting of the Celtics and Murphy off the table my preference would be:

A) Smith Jr
B) Eason
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C) Kuminga

Kuminga: 6-8(+?), 210lb - 6'11.25 wingspan
Eason: 6-8, 216lb - 7'2 wingspan
Smith Jr: 6-11, 220lb - 7'1 wingspan

Notable #s

Kuminga: 4.1 3PA Per 100 Poss at 32.1%, .746 FT%, .347 FTr, 1.4 STL%, 1.7 BLK%, 16.1 PPG

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I would look at a Kuminga addition like an Aaron Gordon variant type of acquisition. Lack of volume shooting is an issue, but maybe he could further unlock Embiid's ability to exploit doubles with the threat of an athletic mismatch cutting / finishing at the rim / drawing fouls.


Smith Jr: 7.6 3PA Per 100 Poss at 36.3%, .811 FT%, .222 FTr, 1.0 STL%, 2.3 BLK%, 6.1 ORB%, 21.3 DRB%

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Jabari probably isn't the Rocket that'd be available, but he's 3&D at it's purest sense. Ridiculous athletic tools to both guard at the POA and add resistance at the rim. Great FT shooter will shoot off the catch without hesitation, cleans up boards on either glass.


Eason: 5.1 3PA Per 100 Poss at 36.0%, .636 FT%, .175 FTr, 3.1 STL%, 3.6 BLK%, 10.2 ORB%, 24.2 DRB%

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Tari is probably the one of the three that's not only available but with actual star upside. Playmaker on both sides of the ball with an ascending off the dribble game. Side eyeing that FT%, but his willingness to bomb from deep has climbed season by season. He's up to 8.1 Per 100 so far this young season (Only fewer than Maxey and George) which would help massively to keep pace with Boston who had KP, Tatum, White, Prichard, Hauser all exceed that mark.

[ankle420breaker]

Eason would be a great add.... still not winning anything if it means relying on Embiid. I'm sick over how badly he managed to shrink his value within the same week of signing a massive 3 year extension.

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[stormi]

Eason would be a great add.... still not winning anything if it means relying on Embiid. I'm sick over how badly he managed to shrink his value within the same week of signing a massive 3 year extension.

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I'd be much more concerned with Tyrese Maxey, who looks closer to landing on the Caris Levert / Brandon Jennings axis whenever Jojo isn't there to hold his hand.

Even solo Simmons was able to lead us to the playoffs.

[Black Mage]

Just noting something; the Sixers keep their pick if it is Top 6. Draft class is expected to be loaded. I'm not gonna lie; if they tanked to keep the pick and take a shot at Flagg; I'm totally on board with it.

I understand Joel and PG13 may have "issues" with it; but I'm talking about it from standpoint of the Franchise and fan base. Maxey needs another running mate and everyone is down on Joel and PG13 b/c of injury history.

::EDIT:: The above came to mind after listening to Neubeck and Bodner who floated that Maxey's struggles might be related to the thumb injury being more serious than the team is saying. Something no one would be shocked to find out that this is true. Also, until PG13 actually plays a game I still fear that his knee injury was more than a bone bruise. This lead me to think of what happens to this team if we're consistently down 2 of our 3 guys.

[Iscull]

Eason would be a great add.... still not winning anything if it means relying on Embiid. I'm sick over how badly he managed to shrink his value within the same week of signing a massive 3 year extension.

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I'd be much more concerned with Tyrese Maxey, who looks closer to landing on the Caris Levert / Brandon Jennings axis whenever Jojo isn't there to hold his hand.

Even solo Simmons was able to lead us to the playoffs.

This is such an absurdly idiotic take. We’ve played two games and all of a sudden Maxeys insane playoff performance last year, not to mention carrying us through non Embiid games, means nothing.

Holy **** I don’t know what you do for a living, but it must require zero patience lmfao

[stormi]

Eason would be a great add.... still not winning anything if it means relying on Embiid. I'm sick over how badly he managed to shrink his value within the same week of signing a massive 3 year extension.

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I'd be much more concerned with Tyrese Maxey, who looks closer to landing on the Caris Levert / Brandon Jennings axis whenever Jojo isn't there to hold his hand.

Even solo Simmons was able to lead us to the playoffs.

This is such an absurdly idiotic take. We’ve played two games and all of a sudden Maxeys insane playoff performance last year, not to mention carrying us through non Embiid games, means nothing.

Holy **** I don’t know what you do for a living, but it must require zero patience lmfao

A sub-30 win pace in the non-Embiid games last season constitutes as "carrying"?

If you think Maxey is brushing shoulders with the upper echelon floor generals in the league, then you just don't understand the sport.

He can score the ball at a very high level and is a great shooter but he brings essentially zero playmaking and is a complete non-factor defensively. Microwave scoring undersized guards aren't a premier archetype.

Joel Embiid is one of the very best basketball players this sport has ever seen and will probably be the best Sixer you'll witness in your lifetime and he routinely gets undervalued to boost his co-stars (Simmons/Maxey) because it makes it easier to discredit his otherworldly impact.

Maxey is a lot closer to Coby White, Immanuel Quickley and Cam Thomas than he is to Luka, SGA and soon Lamelo Ball.

[the_process]

I'd be much more concerned with Tyrese Maxey, who looks closer to landing on the Caris Levert / Brandon Jennings axis whenever Jojo isn't there to hold his hand.

Even solo Simmons was able to lead us to the playoffs.

This is such an absurdly idiotic take. We’ve played two games and all of a sudden Maxeys insane playoff performance last year, not to mention carrying us through non Embiid games, means nothing.

Holy **** I don’t know what you do for a living, but it must require zero patience lmfao

A sub-30 win pace in the non-Embiid games last season constitutes as "carrying"?

If you think Maxey is brushing shoulders with the upper echelon floor generals in the league, then you just don't understand the sport.

He can score the ball at a very high level and is a great shooter but he brings essentially zero playmaking and is a complete non-factor defensively. Microwave scoring undersized guards aren't a premier archetype.

Joel Embiid is one of the very best basketball players this sport has ever seen and will probably be the best Sixer you'll witness in your lifetime and he routinely gets undervalued to boost his co-stars (Simmons/Maxey) because it makes it easier to discredit his otherworldly impact.

Maxey is a lot closer to Coby White, Immanuel Quickley and Cam Thomas than he is to Luka, SGA and soon Lamelo Ball.

Maxey needs to spend all his lab time working on distribution. He needs to be the floor general now. Scoring is secondary. Make everyone else around you better. He hasn't shown very much of this to date.

Short scoring guards are not the centerpiece of title teams. Of all teams, we should know this. Good news is the Sixers don't need him to be IF Embiid and George are right. Big if.

[NearingZero]

Maxey needs to spend all his lab time working on distribution. He needs to be the floor general now. Scoring is secondary. Make everyone else around you better. He hasn't shown very much of this to date.

Short scoring guards are not the centerpiece of title teams. Of all teams, we should know this. Good news is the Sixers don't need him to be IF Embiid and George are right. Big if.

I don't disagree with you. But it's funny because a week or two ago all the discussion around here was that Maxey should be the leading scorer and shot-taker for this team (not that you said it - I have no idea).

I do think some people somehow forget how exceptional of an offensive player Embiid is.

[the_process]

Maxey needs to spend all his lab time working on distribution. He needs to be the floor general now. Scoring is secondary. Make everyone else around you better. He hasn't shown very much of this to date.

Short scoring guards are not the centerpiece of title teams. Of all teams, we should know this. Good news is the Sixers don't need him to be IF Embiid and George are right. Big if.

I don't disagree with you. But it's funny because a week or two ago all the discussion around here was that Maxey should be the leading scorer and shot-taker for this team (not that you said it - I have no idea).

I do think some people somehow forget how exceptional of an offensive player Embiid is.

There were some of us who were hoping Maxey could be the man. I mean, he's already far exceeded any reasonable expectations for him out of Kentucky. But it does not appear to be the case. We have about half a year of evidence now that says Maxey as a 1 is subpar. So he needs to adapt.

The game does not reward dumping the ball in the post to the big man anymore. And the primary role of a C in the NBA now i(save Jokic) is to be the defensive anchor. Therefore having Jo as the primary option is also not ideal.

You really need a self creating wing that can shoot as your number one. The Sixers have an older version of this who is almost as injury prone as Jo and also with the same questions as Jo about performance under pressure.

Listen: this is what the Sixers are for the next four years. Pray that one of the years they can all get it together for 24 games or so in April through June.

[Iscull]

I'd be much more concerned with Tyrese Maxey, who looks closer to landing on the Caris Levert / Brandon Jennings axis whenever Jojo isn't there to hold his hand.

Even solo Simmons was able to lead us to the playoffs.

This is such an absurdly idiotic take. We’ve played two games and all of a sudden Maxeys insane playoff performance last year, not to mention carrying us through non Embiid games, means nothing.

Holy **** I don’t know what you do for a living, but it must require zero patience lmfao

A sub-30 win pace in the non-Embiid games last season constitutes as "carrying"?

If you think Maxey is brushing shoulders with the upper echelon floor generals in the league, then you just don't understand the sport.

He can score the ball at a very high level and is a great shooter but he brings essentially zero playmaking and is a complete non-factor defensively. Microwave scoring undersized guards aren't a premier archetype.

Joel Embiid is one of the very best basketball players this sport has ever seen and will probably be the best Sixer you'll witness in your lifetime and he routinely gets undervalued to boost his co-stars (Simmons/Maxey) because it makes it easier to discredit his otherworldly impact.

Maxey is a lot closer to Coby White, Immanuel Quickley and Cam Thomas than he is to Luka, SGA and soon Lamelo Ball.

I never stated he was Luka/SGA level…

There’s also a huge gap between those guys and a Brandon Jennings or Caris Lavert.

I think his ceiling as an undersized guard is a lower tier version of Kyrie Irving. He will probably max out at being a top 15-20 player. In my eyes, that’s good enough for his role. He’s only 23 and certainly has room to grow.

Sure, by himself he won’t lead us to a playoff with his current cast. The past two games he’s had Kelly Oubre and Caleb Martin as his other options. Neither great 3 pt shooters, allowing the defense to collapse.

Simmons was surrounded by Embiid, Butler, Harris, and McConnell. Certainly better than Maxey, Lowry, Oubre, Martin, Drummond…

[76ciology]

What about Jalen Green? He only has a 12M contract. According to Windy, the Rockets seem open to trading him, and he’s undervalued right now. Green would give us a dynamic scoring backcourt alongside Maxey. Then we could rotate wings like Oubre, Caleb, Yabusele, KJ, and others. Then George can play as a playmaking wing like a Batum role as he age.

[Black Mage]

So Maxey is expected to carry when we have 80+ million in cap missing from the lineup? I get that Maxey isn't playing well right now; but, there aren't many people who can carry a team with almost half of a team's cap space not available. Brunson can't do it; Kobe couldn't either.

[76ciology]

So Maxey is expected to carry when we have 80+ million in cap missing from the lineup? I get that Maxey isn't playing well right now; but, there aren't many people who can carry a team with almost half of a team's cap space not available. Brunson can't do it; Kobe couldn't either.

Yes, he’s expected to carry the team in the absence of George and Embiid, especially by avoiding getting locked down by defenders like Gary Trent Jr. and Davion Mitchell, how much more if he’s defended by Jrue or Derrick White?

But im not that worried for I believe the recent struggles likely because of cold shooting, which I believe played a significant role in his performance issues. He’ll be better than this.

[Zumramania]

This is not just about Maxey. Our team outside Embiid, George and Maxey is just role players and old role players. I don't know if this is enough to have shot at winning the championship even if everyone is healthy. Or it's a rather fragile roster construction that really relies on the stars being healthy because this is when the role players are not asked to do too much. Give Maxey just one player from the Boston starting five like Porzingis, Holiday or White as a running mate and I bet he'd thrive. Perhaps Maxey needs a real point guard next to him who is not 300 years old, even when everyone is healthy.

But it also has to be acknowledged that any team would struggle without its top two stars and it seems that NN does not know how to coach underdog teams. I mean neither does Steve Kerr and he won so many titles.

[Mik317]

Maxey is simply still too easy to take out especially when he is the only real threat on the floor. It magnifies that he is a first read type playmaker. Adding some craft and misdirection to his game would do wonders...but that generally comes from guys slower and or bigger than he is lol.

its not a sleight on him either imo. We saw him win us playoff games...he is good imo. Just not good enough atm to carry this team...which idk who is

[Black Mage]

Coaching is also letting Maxey down. I don't recall us running any kind of offense to make it easier for him.

I do not understand why this team isn't running Steph Curry off ball screens for Maxey. I'm not saying Maxey is Curry, he isn't, but this team could copy the staggered screens to try and get Maxey freed up for a catch and shoot shot.

The one thing I miss with Brett is he had some excellent off ball schemes to get JJ to his spots with a window to catch and shoot.

[the_process]

Why is Nurse suddenly so vanilla? He used to run all kinds of gimmicks to maximize the Raptors during the regular season. He hasn't done any of that so far in his Sixers tenure. Someone must be telling him not to do it. Harris? Morey? Jo? Don't think anyone outside those three has the clout.

Whoever it is needs to let go of the reins.