2024-2025 Regular Season Game 3: Orlando Magic (2-0) at Memphis Grizzlies (1-1) - 8pm ET

[RichCollab]

I'm extremely hard pressed to envision a scenario KCP gets benched any time soon.

We're 3 games in, ya know?

Black/Suggs very well may end up being the backcourt of the future, but the key word there is future.

KCP frees up Suggs even more on defense.

Also KCP hustles to his spots on offense being an example on how to create spacing.

Black moves into starting lineup we will have no playmakers in the second unit.

[SHAQ32]

The 3-letter initial bums, WCJ and KCP

[RichCollab]

The 3-letter initial bums, WCJ and KCP

WCJ has been fire on the boards and his ability to switch on 1 - 5 was humongous the 1st 2 games.

KCP has been great on defense.

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Nothing against Suggs and i know he just signed a big deal but his energy and excitement fits more as a 6th man. He can read the game calmly at the start and then come with passion like he always does.

Suggs is the only reason this game wasn’t a historic stomping. He’s the best defender on the team. Are you saying there is a guard more valuable on this roster starting over him? Who?

[zaymon]

Nothing against Suggs and i know he just signed a big deal but his energy and excitement fits more as a 6th man. He can read the game calmly at the start and then come with passion like he always does.

Suggs is the only reason this game wasn’t a historic stomping. He’s the best defender on the team. Are you saying there is a guard more valuable on this roster starting over him? Who?

It was not stomping becouse he run the offense byt becouse he stopped to run the offense and just stood on perimeter? I think its not by accident that Black plays more and with a bigger role. He is not better than Suggs right now, but its slowly going in that direction. I am not talking about immidiate changes but overall direction. Mosley doesnt like quick changes anyway.

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Nothing against Suggs and i know he just signed a big deal but his energy and excitement fits more as a 6th man. He can read the game calmly at the start and then come with passion like he always does.

Suggs is the only reason this game wasn’t a historic stomping. He’s the best defender on the team. Are you saying there is a guard more valuable on this roster starting over him? Who?

It was not stomping becouse he run the offense byt becouse he stopped to run the offense and just stood on perimeter? I think its not by accident that Black plays more and with a bigger role. He is not better than Suggs right now, but its slowly going in that direction. I am not talking about immidiate changes but overall direction. Mosley doesnt like quick changes anyway.

Because he was 4/4 from 3 and scored 17 points in the third quarter when the game was completely out of reach and made it winnable?

Then Mosely put in the bench against their starters at the beginning of the 4th and a 10 point deficit turned into a 16 point deficit with 10 minutes to go. Game was already over.

You can’t have it both ways. Suggs isn’t “running” the offense. Franz and Paolo had 9 turnovers in this game combined. There isn’t a guard on this roster better than Suggs past, present, or future. AB should be starting next to Suggs, not in spite of him.

KCP has shown to be a good defender in 3 games. That’s it.

[pepe1991]

I would stay away from any conclusions until there are at least 10-15 games.

You had one blowout win , one win vs team without any intentions of winning and one blowout loss.

[eyriq]

I would stay away from any conclusions until there are at least 10-15 games.

You had one blowout win , one win vs team without any intentions of winning and one blowout loss.

Agreed, though i did sell all my Nuggets stock.

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It’s exactly what was said when he was signed…

KCP is a journeyman role player that benefited from being paired with Jokic and Murray. Nothing more. Nothing less.

This fan base is so starved of player validation, wanting to come here, that they acted liked they were getting an allstar that was going to change the system. No, you got an upgraded less streaky Gary Harris AND Gary Harris.

Maybe KCP will change my mind throughout the season, but it’s looking like a pretty validated assessment of his game.

[eyriq]

It’s exactly what was said when he was signed…

KCP is a journeyman role player that benefited from being paired with Jokic and Murray. Nothing more. Nothing less.

This fan base is so starved of player validation, wanting to come here, that they acted liked they were getting an allstar that was going to change the system.

Maybe KCP will change my mind throughout the season, but it’s looking like a pretty validated assessment of his game.

I was underwhelmed by the signing but his defensive talent and shooting ability is undeniable after watching him play. I've flipped from "meh" to "Horace Grant effect".

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It’s exactly what was said when he was signed…

KCP is a journeyman role player that benefited from being paired with Jokic and Murray. Nothing more. Nothing less.

This fan base is so starved of player validation, wanting to come here, that they acted liked they were getting an allstar that was going to change the system.

Maybe KCP will change my mind throughout the season, but it’s looking like a pretty validated assessment of his game.

I was underwhelmed by the signing but his defensive talent and shooting ability is undeniable after watching him play. I've flipped from "meh" to "Horace Grant effect".

We all love his defense. However, defense was never the issue this offseason.

It was playmaking and on ball shot creation on the perimeter. If you are down 20 points in a game you are getting nothing from him offensively unless someone else is making a play on the ball be it Suggs, AB, Franz, or Paolo.

There really isn’t an argument to be made that AB should be sitting the bench behind KCP if he ISNT hitting shots. AB is functional as a defender AND can playmake etc. there is more to his game before going down the rabbit hole of the developmental aspect.

This was my criticism is signing him whatsoever. You are moving Suggs for the sake of it and in a pickle if AB rises beyond expectations early. Then you have Cole, Jett, and Gary still to appease on some level.

[eyriq]

It’s exactly what was said when he was signed…

KCP is a journeyman role player that benefited from being paired with Jokic and Murray. Nothing more. Nothing less.

This fan base is so starved of player validation, wanting to come here, that they acted liked they were getting an allstar that was going to change the system.

Maybe KCP will change my mind throughout the season, but it’s looking like a pretty validated assessment of his game.

I was underwhelmed by the signing but his defensive talent and shooting ability is undeniable after watching him play. I've flipped from "meh" to "Horace Grant effect".

We all love his defense. However, defense was never the issue this offseason.

It was playmaking and on ball shot creation on the perimeter. If you are down 20 points in a game you are getting nothing from him offensively unless someone else is making a play on the ball be it Suggs, AB, Franz, or Paolo.

There really isn’t an argument to be made that AB should be sitting the bench behind KCP if he ISNT hitting shots. AB is functional as a defender AND can playmake etc. there is more to his game before going down the rabbit hole of the developmental aspect.

The AB/Suggs backcourt is the truth for sure. KCP is a lightweight contract and a short-term answer to upgrading Gary Harris. AB is probably going to be ready ahead of schedule but I guess they weren't sure on the timetable.

[pepe1991]

I would stay away from any conclusions until there are at least 10-15 games.

You had one blowout win , one win vs team without any intentions of winning and one blowout loss.

Agreed, though i did sell all my Nuggets stock.

Yea, Nuggets have A LOT of work to do. Malone vs Clippers called two time outs in span of 20 sec. That's where they are at right now.
But most teams are disjointed so early.

On other hand Cavs, Celtics will win A LOT games early on due continuity of same roster. Magic should also benefit from only 1 roster change compared to last year.

[basketballRob]

The team was 35-19 when Harris played last season. So, a player in that mold who could play every game was a good move. A defensive player with low offensive usage works with Paolo, Franz, and Suggs.

I think Black can wait another 1-2 years to start. If Suggs misses games, Black will fill in for him.

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[Blue_and_Whte]

It’s exactly what was said when he was signed…

KCP is a journeyman role player that benefited from being paired with Jokic and Murray. Nothing more. Nothing less.

This fan base is so starved of player validation, wanting to come here, that they acted liked they were getting an allstar that was going to change the system. No, you got an upgraded less streaky Gary Harris AND Gary Harris.

Maybe KCP will change my mind throughout the season, but it’s looking like a pretty validated assessment of his game.

Nobody thought we were getting an All Star… he was considered an upgrade over Harris which he is, and now we have both.

[pepe1991]

The team was 35-19 when Harris played last season. So, a player in that mold who could play every game was a good move. A defensive player with low offensive usage works with Paolo, Franz, and Suggs.

I think Black can wait another 1-2 years to start. If Suggs misses games, Black will fill in for him.

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Some of it is who he played against.

Hornets x4
Bulls x4
Nets x3
Pistons x4
Toronto x3
Wizards x3
Blazers x2

[JoshuaPotter]

It was 3 games in 4 days and a loss in a B2B. Tired legs, maybe some chemistry issues offensively in this last one. I imagine our entire team has the next game circled on the calendar.

There is no reason under the sun I can give stating that we in any sort of trouble. KCP is an amazing signing still both on paper and from a redundancy aspect. G Harris injuries issues already (not really a shocker) is one of the main reasons we signed KCP.

AB just getting minutes is also no surprise. This will eventually result in a couple losses but so far, he has been as I always expected from watching his college footage.

[Optimus_Steel]

It’s exactly what was said when he was signed…

KCP is a journeyman role player that benefited from being paired with Jokic and Murray. Nothing more. Nothing less.

This fan base is so starved of player validation, wanting to come here, that they acted liked they were getting an allstar that was going to change the system. No, you got an upgraded less streaky Gary Harris AND Gary Harris.

Maybe KCP will change my mind throughout the season, but it’s looking like a pretty validated assessment of his game.

I'm sorry who was acting like he was an allstar? We all know he is a role player, a damm good role player.

[Orlando Dawg]

I think they lost because they fell in love with the idea being a 3 point hero.
Once they were back within 10 points they could have won the game with layups only.
One of their mentioned coaching themes is go for singles not home runs and they failed to adhere.

[JoshuaPotter]

I think they lost because they fell in love with the idea being a 3 point hero.
Once they were back within 10 points they could have won the game with layups only.
One of their mentioned coaching themes is go for singles not home runs and they failed to adhere.

They are trying something new. I'm not mad at the results just yet and would take 2-1 for the rest of the season. (50 win team)