2024-25 NBA Season Discussion

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Re: 2024-25 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#381 » by Colbinii » Sat Oct 26, 2024 6:07 am

bigboi wrote:Hali is terrible and Ja is a sleeper MVP pick. Can’t believe yall overhyped Hali last year


Meanwhile LaMelo looks like a poor man's Trae Young
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#382 » by penbeast0 » Sat Oct 26, 2024 12:09 pm

And, as long as we are hyping people up based on one or two games, Jordan Poole is shooting well, playing aggressive defense, and available in trade! :-)
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#383 » by LukaTheGOAT » Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:02 pm

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Texas Chuck wrote:I've been trying to tell ya'll. Wemby really isn't a good offensive player right now. And its fine btw. Spurs don't really want to win so let him experiment with whatever. But my guess is Chris Paul gets tired of this in about 3 more games and has him running PNR and starting him down the path where he eventually lands. But for now his impact is going to be on the defensive end.

Boogie should have forever shown us that just because you can in theory kind of do some stuff doesn't mean you should. And that many of our best offenses have featured centers who literally only rim run. Gobert with the Jazz, Capela with the Rockets.

Less is more for Wemby. May always be. This talk of him being a taller KD was always silly.


But I don’t understand why spurs didn’t get Trae Young. Trae wants to play with Wemby, has playoffs experience and is better than literally anyone on the roster. He’d reduce pressure of Wemby being number 1 option. Wemby can be elite at offense but he plays too far from the basket. Hopefully he doesn’t get KAT syndrome. KAT is like that too, where he’s catching the ball at the 3 when he should be posting


Trae's reputation hit an all-time low last year. I've seen people argue that he's self-absorbed, too ball-dominant, hinders other players' growth, and has poor shot selection. Additionally, his smaller size is seen as a drawback, making him a tough fit on many teams. However, he’s actually a perfect match for Wemby. With Murray gone, I expect Trae to perform more like he did in the 2021 and 2022 regular seasons, rather than the past two years. The fit with Murray just wasn't there, and with him gone, I think Trae's stock should rise a bit. Perhaps even a darkhorse candidate to lead in the offensive component of a litany of all-in-one metrics.
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#384 » by Clyde Frazier » Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:13 pm

bigboi wrote:Hali is terrible and Ja is a sleeper MVP pick. Can’t believe yall overhyped Hali last year


Informal warning: you've been spamming this thread with negative commentary and it's getting tiring. Especially calling out the board as a whole which accomplishes nothing. Try to have meaningful discussion vs spouting off opinions as facts. If you keep it up the warnings will inevitably come. Just an FYI.
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#385 » by tsherkin » Sat Oct 26, 2024 11:42 pm

bigboi wrote:Hali is terrible and Ja is a sleeper MVP pick. Can’t believe yall overhyped Hali last year


There is a near-0% chance that Morant wins an MVP with how bad he is away from the rim.

Haliburton isn't an MVP candidate either, but he's a high-impact offensive player. He's also better on O than Morant, but worse on D.

A more balanced and factually-rooted take would be better.
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#386 » by bigboi » Sun Oct 27, 2024 5:14 pm

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bigboi wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:I've been trying to tell ya'll. Wemby really isn't a good offensive player right now. And its fine btw. Spurs don't really want to win so let him experiment with whatever. But my guess is Chris Paul gets tired of this in about 3 more games and has him running PNR and starting him down the path where he eventually lands. But for now his impact is going to be on the defensive end.

Boogie should have forever shown us that just because you can in theory kind of do some stuff doesn't mean you should. And that many of our best offenses have featured centers who literally only rim run. Gobert with the Jazz, Capela with the Rockets.

Less is more for Wemby. May always be. This talk of him being a taller KD was always silly.


But I don’t understand why spurs didn’t get Trae Young. Trae wants to play with Wemby, has playoffs experience and is better than literally anyone on the roster. He’d reduce pressure of Wemby being number 1 option. Wemby can be elite at offense but he plays too far from the basket. Hopefully he doesn’t get KAT syndrome. KAT is like that too, where he’s catching the ball at the 3 when he should be posting


Trae's reputation hit an all-time low last year. I've seen people argue that he's self-absorbed, too ball-dominant, hinders other players' growth, and has poor shot selection. Additionally, his smaller size is seen as a drawback, making him a tough fit on many teams. However, he’s actually a perfect match for Wemby. With Murray gone, I expect Trae to perform more like he did in the 2021 and 2022 regular seasons, rather than the past two years. The fit with Murray just wasn't there, and with him gone, I think Trae's stock should rise a bit. Perhaps even a darkhorse candidate to lead in the offensive component of a litany of all-in-one metrics.


Trae’s criticism is completely unfair. Dude lead the Hawks past Embiid to the ECF and people seem to forget that.
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#387 » by bigboi » Sun Oct 27, 2024 5:16 pm

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bigboi wrote:Hali is terrible and Ja is a sleeper MVP pick. Can’t believe yall overhyped Hali last year


There is a near-0% chance that Morant wins an MVP with how bad he is away from the rim.

Haliburton isn't an MVP candidate either, but he's a high-impact offensive player. He's also better on O than Morant, but worse on D.

A more balanced and factually-rooted take would be better.


Hali is in no way better than Morant lmao. Hali isn’t even better than Brunson or Melo. Hali started hot first half then completely fell off
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#388 » by Colbinii » Sun Oct 27, 2024 5:19 pm

bigboi wrote:
tsherkin wrote:
bigboi wrote:Hali is terrible and Ja is a sleeper MVP pick. Can’t believe yall overhyped Hali last year


There is a near-0% chance that Morant wins an MVP with how bad he is away from the rim.

Haliburton isn't an MVP candidate either, but he's a high-impact offensive player. He's also better on O than Morant, but worse on D.

A more balanced and factually-rooted take would be better.


Hali is in no way better than Morant lmao. Hali isn’t even better than Brunson or Melo. Hali started hot first half then completely fell off


He fell off due to a hamstring injury. But yeah, post-injury Haliburton hasn't been the same as the guys you mentioned, while pre-injury Hali looked like the best offensive player in the NBA.
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#389 » by bigboi » Sun Oct 27, 2024 5:23 pm

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bigboi wrote:Hali is terrible and Ja is a sleeper MVP pick. Can’t believe yall overhyped Hali last year


Informal warning: you've been spamming this thread with negative commentary and it's getting tiring. Especially calling out the board as a whole which accomplishes nothing. Try to have meaningful discussion vs spouting off opinions as facts. If you keep it up the warnings will inevitably come. Just an FYI.


Tf wrong with this board now? How tf is it spamming to state an opinion. Haliburton was hyped last year as best offensive PG talent since Chris Paul, to start the season, he has had two horrendous games. And me calling that out, is spamming? I never said any of my opinions were facts, foh with that bs. I can find Haliburton being some all time great offensive talent as absolutely ridiculous. This whole forum is opinion based, nothing here is facts except statistics and even then many of those stats can be skewed to form an argument. This board is getting absolutely ridiculous. It was never like this in the past. People stated their opinion, you agreed and disagreed and moved on. Now you have people saying that I’m spamming because I didn’t think Jokic would make it out the east and was no where near Jordan level. Newsflash, half of the opinions on Realgm would be seen as trolling by general public or on other boards. This board strictly focuses on arbitrary stats to measure players
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#390 » by The-Power » Sun Oct 27, 2024 7:14 pm

Having Jrue and White as Guard defenders to close out games is just unfair. Such an impressive defensive duo when they lock in.
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Post#391 » by ShaqAttac » Sun Oct 27, 2024 9:04 pm

JJ been cookin
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#392 » by falcolombardi » Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:59 pm

Is still way too early but the defensive potencial of oklahoma is frigtening

They are essentially replacing giddey minutes with caruso and have held rivals to like a combined 92 points per game (through only 2 games) replacing the only weak link in a defensively stacked roster with an all D caliber player has compounding effects arguably greater than even caruso own strong contiibutions

And eventually if health allows we will replace the minutes currently going to depth bigs (as both ihart and jaylin are hurt) with a strong defensive center in harstentein and going small ball less as 2 big holgrem/hartstentein lineups replace some of the jalen williams at 4 minute

Am i crazy for thinking right this very season our top 7 players rotation may already be better than boston's? (Counting on third year leaps by chet and jalen)
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Post#393 » by DCasey91 » Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:23 am

falcolombardi wrote:Is still way too early but the defensive potencial of oklahoma is frigtening

They are essentially replacing giddey minutes with caruso and have held rivals to like a combined 92 points per game (through only 2 games) replacing the only weak link in a defensively stacked roster with an all D caliber player has compounding effects arguably greater than even caruso own strong contiibutions

And eventually if health allows we will replace the minutes currently going to depth bigs (as both ihart and jaylin are hurt) with a strong defensive center in harstentein and going small ball less as 2 big holgrem/hartstentein lineups replace some of the jalen williams at 4 minute

Am i crazy for thinking right this very season our top 7 players rotation may already be better than boston's? (Counting on third year leaps by chet and jalen)


Definitely think the hype is warranted, if there's anywhere the Celtics could be exposed its in the front court though having 4 guys (Brown, Holiday, White, Tatum) can mitigate it somewhat.

I still reckon OKC is a year away but it's very very exciting

Want to see more Stein/Chet lineups but the season is very young.

The guy I'm most impressed with is Cason considering the spot he's in. Damn he's such a good player, does so many quality things that goes unnoticed

But yeah as it stands its clear to me both teams are outright best in comp.

Both can double down on either side of the ball and be in/blow games open through sheer pressure
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#394 » by tsherkin » Mon Oct 28, 2024 1:30 pm

penbeast0 wrote:And, as long as we are hyping people up based on one or two games, Jordan Poole is shooting well, playing aggressive defense, and available in trade! :-)


Hah!
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#395 » by Texas Chuck » Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:58 pm

falcolombardi wrote:Am i crazy for thinking right this very season our top 7 players rotation may already be better than boston's? (Counting on third year leaps by chet and jalen)


Crazy? I wouldn't say that. Premature? Yeah, probably. Remember Boston is missing KP and Hauser has played one half's worth of basketball himself.

And the experience advantage is significant and meaningful. Veteran teams win championships.
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#396 » by tsherkin » Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:55 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
falcolombardi wrote:Am i crazy for thinking right this very season our top 7 players rotation may already be better than boston's? (Counting on third year leaps by chet and jalen)


Crazy? I wouldn't say that. Premature? Yeah, probably. Remember Boston is missing KP and Hauser has played one half's worth of basketball himself.

And the experience advantage is significant and meaningful. Veteran teams win championships.


Will be interesting to watch, though.
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Post#397 » by IlikeSHAIguys » Mon Oct 28, 2024 10:42 pm

It's fun rooting for a team that's actually good.
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Post#398 » by Peregrine01 » Tue Oct 29, 2024 7:24 am

The shooting that Boston has…Jesus. They look even better than they did last year.
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#399 » by GSP » Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:12 am

Paolo is gonna be a massive problem for us for years to come...............his ceiling is def higher than the Jays and Orlandos defense is gonna be tough to score on for a while if they stay healthy specially Isaac
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Post#400 » by ShaqAttac » Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:14 pm

bron old our 4-0 ngl. 4-1 is nice too tho

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