PG Nets: Blow it the **** Up

[paulpressey25]

Bud earned getting canned.

Maybe the Lillard stiff is true.

The Middleton thing is hilarious. Last we saw him he was once again dominating a playoff series versus a good team. If this start reminds us of anything, it's that he's the heart and soul of this team.

Bud earned getting canned in the minds of impetuous billionaire owners and a spoiled fan base.

On the Middleton point, where am I wrong? I said he was a top 30 player in his prime but his body is broke. Immediately after the Indy series he quietly had surgery on both ankles and resides on the bench in street clothes. It sucks, but the guy’s ability to be #2 on a contender is long gone due to injury.

[JayMKE]

Bud didn't deserve to get fired, I think most of use thought it was a for sure thing we'd hire Nurse which would answer the teams shortcomings. Instead they hired Adrian Griffin. It was a dumb decision and callous too with what happened with his brother, the series was over 10 minutes in because Giannis got hurt. Was never reasonable to expect Bud and Jrue to make up for Giannis not being there.

[brewbucks]

I know I’m probably overreacting but it’s kinda wild the Giannis era - as amazing as winning the title was - will only yield 2 deep postseason runs (2019 and 2021).

It’s depressing how the classic Giannis effort against Boston in the 2022 playoffs was wasted.

[Jez2983]

Is the 2025 first-round pick that we don't have unprotected?

To beat the Nets, you must deplete all your future assets to become... the Nets.

[ReginaldDwight]

Cant miss on every single draft pick for like 5 years and expect to be a good team.

[WeMajor34]

I went into the season with lower expectations than usual but I surely didn’t think we’d see a complete retread of our core issues from last year. Uninspired basketball on both ends of the court and no one is on the same page.

We’re an old team that plays like we can rely solely on talent. That may have worked 10 years ago but the league is much more talented and deep.

I know it’s only Game 3, but yikes.

[blazza18]

I thought at the time Bud should've been fired but was worried about how we'd replace him given what he turned us into. Horst and the owners totally undervalued how big of a role he actually had in turning the franchise around and overrated our roster big time. Multiple coaches later and we're still seeing the same thing. It really is criminal how long we've held on to some for so long.

[paulpressey25]

I thought at the time Bud should've been fired but was worried about how we'd replace him given what he turned us into. Horst and the owners totally undervalued how big of a role he actually had in turning the franchise around and overrated our roster big time. Multiple coaches later and we're still seeing the same thing. It really is criminal how long we've held on to some for so long.

It was always known that Bud had personnel input. He may have taken some of that with him to Phoenix as well.

Within months of him taking over we bring in Lopez, Pat and George Hill. All of whom fit the team brilliantly at the time. Wasn’t a coincidence.

[ShootingtheJ]

Bud earned getting canned.

Maybe the Lillard stiff is true.

The Middleton thing is hilarious. Last we saw him he was once again dominating a playoff series versus a good team. If this start reminds us of anything, it's that he's the heart and soul of this team.

Bud earned getting canned in the minds of impetuous billionaire owners and a spoiled fan base.

On the Middleton point, where am I wrong? I said he was a top 30 player in his prime but his body is broke. Immediately after the Indy series he quietly had surgery on both ankles and resides on the bench in street clothes. It sucks, but the guy’s ability to be #2 on a contender is long gone due to injury.

I have a hard time believing the ankles that were good enough to allow him to dominate in the playoffs are now shot after an arthroscopic clean up.

Then again, if our medical staff over saw this, they probably sawed his feet off and put them back on the wrong legs.

[MiltownMadness]

Bucks will be okay, definitely not blowing it up. This is not the season guys, I know most of you are used to being losers but see the forest through the trees

[paulpressey25]

Bud earned getting canned.

Maybe the Lillard stiff is true.

The Middleton thing is hilarious. Last we saw him he was once again dominating a playoff series versus a good team. If this start reminds us of anything, it's that he's the heart and soul of this team.

Bud earned getting canned in the minds of impetuous billionaire owners and a spoiled fan base.

On the Middleton point, where am I wrong? I said he was a top 30 player in his prime but his body is broke. Immediately after the Indy series he quietly had surgery on both ankles and resides on the bench in street clothes. It sucks, but the guy’s ability to be #2 on a contender is long gone due to injury.

I have a hard time believing the ankles that were good enough to allow him to dominate in the playoffs are now shot after an arthroscopic clean up.

Then again, if our medical staff over saw this, they probably sawed his feet off and put them back on the wrong legs.

He dominated, but also looked like he was going to physically fall apart at any moment. He’s doesn’t have good tendons/ligaments/cartildge. It is what it is. The team rode him for a title, but Father Time caught up. And he’s caught up to some extent with Brook, Pat, Giannis. It already got George Hill and Ersan a few years back.

And zero young reinforcements from Horst.

[MiltownMadness]

Bud earned getting canned in the minds of impetuous billionaire owners and a spoiled fan base.

On the Middleton point, where am I wrong? I said he was a top 30 player in his prime but his body is broke. Immediately after the Indy series he quietly had surgery on both ankles and resides on the bench in street clothes. It sucks, but the guy’s ability to be #2 on a contender is long gone due to injury.

I have a hard time believing the ankles that were good enough to allow him to dominate in the playoffs are now shot after an arthroscopic clean up.

Then again, if our medical staff over saw this, they probably sawed his feet off and put them back on the wrong legs.

He dominated, but also looked like he was going to physically fall apart at any moment. He’s doesn’t have good tendons/ligaments/cartildge. It is what it is. The team rode him for a title, but Father Time caught up. And he’s caught up to some extent with Brook, Pat, Giannis. It already got George Hill and Ersan a few years back.

And zero young reinforcements from Horst.

Talking like the dude died It's ok PP, maybe take more of a wait and see approach. Have a feeling many of you will feel very dumb in a few weeks

[MickeyDavis]

.. Just wait for the meltdown after the Boston game

Doubt it. That's an expected loss. This was not an expected loss. Neither was the home opener.

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[aboveAverage]

The writing has been on the wall since the Miami series where Bud got fired. We’re too old, slow, and predictable. Trading Jrue might have been a mistake, but I still think it was worth making that move. Firing Bud was a mistake. But it was followed by Giannis signing a four year contract extension. If that was the deal, that’s also worth doing.

What really has been hurting us is: blowing our draft picks for the last five years (no injection of youth to keep us young and athletic), and poor trade deadline moves/non-moves in the last three years.

[Sigra]

Dont blow it up now. But blow it up after this season.

Part of me wants Giannis to play for Bucks his entire career. And part od me also want to keep Giannis, Khris and Brook together no matter what. I love how Crosby, Malkin, Letang play together for 19 years (and each of them played only for Penguins). They don't even make playoffs nowadays, but Penguins keep them together anyway. Part of me (big part) wants to keep our trio together until they retire.

BUT, Giannis deserves another ring and he is not getting it with the Bucks. I would trade him after this year. That way he would overtake Jabbar in WS (win share) for Bucks. Also, Khris is very close to overtake Redd in WS. After Giannis become #1 in WS and after Khris become #6 in WS I would trade them to contending team(s).

[yb90]

Defense is trash and the offense lacks ball movement. There are too many trips where they run a PnR without passing or make one pass then shoot. The mission to make Giannis and Lillard the best PnR tandem has stunted the offense. There need to add more player and ball movement.

[ShootingtheJ]

I thought at the time Bud should've been fired but was worried about how we'd replace him given what he turned us into. Horst and the owners totally undervalued how big of a role he actually had in turning the franchise around and overrated our roster big time. Multiple coaches later and we're still seeing the same thing. It really is criminal how long we've held on to some for so long.

It was always known that Bud had personnel input. He may have taken some of that with him to Phoenix as well.

Within months of him taking over we bring in Lopez, Pat and George Hill. All of whom fit the team brilliantly at the time. Wasn’t a coincidence.

And then never made another useful personal move. The team just got older every year. The same way Bud ran Atlanta in to the ground.

[yannisk]

The mission to make Giannis and Lillard the best PnR tandem has stunted the offense. There need to add more player and ball movement.

we don't do that either, I saw very few pnr between Dame and Giannis (which actually resulted in good shots)

[flaco]

Dont blow it up now. But blow it up after this season.

Part of me wants Giannis to play for Bucks his entire career. And part od me also want to keep Giannis, Khris and Brook together no matter what. I love how Crosby, Malkin, Letang play together for 19 years (and each of them played only for Penguins). They don't even make playoffs nowadays, but Penguins keep them together anyway. Part of me (big part) wants to keep our trio together until they retire.

BUT, Giannis deserves another ring and he is not getting it with the Bucks. I would trade him after this year. That way he would overtake Jabbar in WS (win share) for Bucks. Also, Khris is very close to overtake Redd in WS. After Giannis become #1 in WS and after Khris become #6 in WS I would trade them to contending team(s).

Don't think Middleton and BroLo belong in the same convo with Giannis. As great as they were in the past, I consider them expendable. Giannis is a different story. He's the best Buck of all time. Worst case scenario, the 2nd best behind only Kareem. Basketball-wise, we cannot realistically expect to find a better player in the foreseeable future. Money-wise, he's generating tons of revenue. If I were Horst, I'd keep Giannis till he retires.

Overseas players come from different cultural backgrounds. Dirk never demanded a trade once the Mavs stopped being contenders. Wouldn't be surprised if Giannis stayed for a long rebuild.