With the 45th pick, the Raptors select Jamal Shead

Tripod · Post #501 » by **Tripod** » Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:00 am

In the end, this is what we want. Have options at backup PG and if Shead shows he is better thru the year...not just 1 game, you can move off Davion.

No need to do it early as keeping depth is a good thing as we are seeing. Keep them battling all year and let's see if either of their shooting improves.

REJECTEDBYCLARK · Post #502 » by **REJECTEDBYCLARK** » Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:05 am

Dalek wrote:
And1Skip wrote:Wait after 1 game, is Shead the leading scorer among rookies?

Edit: no that title has gone to Yves Missi

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2025_rookies.html

We Missi-ed out. Sigh.

We now have Bruno Fernando to enjoy.

missi was in their cluster of 3 players they were considering at 19, wasn't told who the 3rd one was

Ackshun · Post #503 » by **Ackshun** » Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:11 am

Badonkadonk wrote:
aminiaturebuddha wrote:

Watch on YouTube

This was just an amazing defensive possession by Shead.

Ridiculous possession. I just bought 905 tix for a couple of games and now I'm thinking I may not even see him down there. He's forcing Darko's hand.

How did you get tix!? It’s asking for a passcode.

I’d love to take the kids to a game. They complain too much to take them to an NBA so they don’t get to roll with me tomorrow lol

GoRapstheoriginal · Post #504 » by **GoRapstheoriginal** » Sat Oct 26, 2024 2:44 am

Another good game tonight I think. I watched most of the game but was um multitasking also haven't looked at the box score yet either.

PhilBlackson · Post #505 » by **PhilBlackson** » Sat Oct 26, 2024 3:04 am

Shead is prob already my 2nd favourite player on the team after Scottie lol I just LOVE the energy and hustle he brings.

It’s obvious & easy to see he’s quicker gonna become a fan favourite. I think we all know he should be the first backup PG and will be it for the future.

T-d0t · Post #506 » by **T-d0t** » Sat Oct 26, 2024 3:11 am

He should be getting more mins than Mitchell for development just like today.

KrazyP · Post #507 » by **KrazyP** » Sat Oct 26, 2024 9:35 pm

Shead is a young xzibit lookalike.

MEDIC · Post #508 » by **MEDIC** » Sat Oct 26, 2024 9:50 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:Shead is prob already my 2nd favourite player on the team after Scottie lol I just LOVE the energy and hustle he brings.

It’s obvious & easy to see he’s quicker gonna become a fan favourite. I think we all know he should be the first backup PG and will be it for the future.

Yeah. I would say he's the player that I find the most exciting/ interesting to watch. I just love players that play with that level of intensity on defense. Plus his athleticism is off the charts.

Scottie......I already kinda know what to expect. He hasn't really added anything new. I actually find RJ more fun to watch on offense.

Gradey and Battle have been fun to watch. So has Mogbo.

I am looking forward to Walter playing some.minutes. See what elements exist in his game that I have yet to notice.

Chandan · Post #509 » by **Chandan** » Sat Oct 26, 2024 9:53 pm

he really does have that Fred demeanor

OakleyDokely · Post #510 » by **OakleyDokely** » Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:30 pm

After the first week:

21 MINS, 8.7 PPG, 4.7 AST, 1.0 REB, O.3 STL, 0.5 BLK, .409 FG, .375 3PT, 1.000 FT, .537 TS

Psubs · Post #511 » by **Psubs** » Mon Oct 28, 2024 1:05 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:After the first week:

21 MINS, 8.7 PPG, 4.7 AST, 1.0 REB, O.3 STL, 0.5 BLK, .409 FG, .375 3PT, 1.000 FT, .537 TS

Amazing that he's taken his time and on balance for his 3's and hitting them from the top too. You can see the work already translating. Davion Mitchell is already expendable.

Indeed · Post #512 » by **Indeed** » Mon Oct 28, 2024 1:32 pm

Psubs wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:After the first week:

21 MINS, 8.7 PPG, 4.7 AST, 1.0 REB, O.3 STL, 0.5 BLK, .409 FG, .375 3PT, 1.000 FT, .537 TS

Amazing that he's taken his time and on balance for his 3's and hitting them from the top too. You can see the work already translating. Davion Mitchell is already expendable.

I wouldn't say Mitchell is expandable, as Mitchell has been facing better competitions, and have more possessions devoted to Barnes (if not for fans, the coaches probably asked him to do that). Mitchell only has 16% usage, while Shead has 22%.

Furthermore, I think they will both play together off the bench, as we might need 2 ball handlers more often.

OakleyDokely · Post #513 » by **OakleyDokely** » Mon Oct 28, 2024 1:38 pm

https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_2024.html

Shead leads the rookie class in total points so far. Not a great start for the 2024 class.

OakleyDokely · Post #514 » by **OakleyDokely** » Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:04 pm

Shead vs Mitchell defensive battle

Opponent vs Shead: 14-27 (51.9%)
Opponent vs Mitchell: 13-25 (52.0%)

Guards vs Shead: 12-23 (52.2%)
Guards vs Mitchell: 8-17 (47.1%)

Mitchell has generally faced tougher competition as most of his minutes have come against Edwards, Maxey and D Mitchell.

youngRAPZ · Post #515 » by **youngRAPZ** » Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:11 pm

I never understand why on this raptors board it always has to be one or the other. Davion has the backup job now and he will not block shead. If Shead proves to be better he will get more time period. Having two ball hawks backing up IQ is perfect. We are not a team that can have “expendable” depth.

My bet Mitchell gets a 2+1 team option or just a straight up 3 year deal after this year

GLF · Post #516 » by **GLF** » Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:22 pm

youngRAPZ wrote:I never understand why on this raptors board it always has to be one or the other. Davion has the backup job now and he will not block shead. If Shead proves to be better he will get more time period. Having two ball hawks backing up IQ is perfect. We are not a team that can have “expendable” depth.

My bet Mitchell gets a 2+1 team option or just a straight up 3 year deal after this year

I was just about to say this lol. This board always has to run to “this guy can be traded now” just bc someone else playing the same position is also playing well lol. I thought we need depth. Now we have two guys playing better than expected or as expected and you want to get rid of them. Both Shead and Davion can come off the bench and play together until we are 100% healthy. And I’m confident if Davion is having a bad game Darko won’t have a problem with giving Shead a look once we’re healthy and Shead becomes the 3rd stringer.

Psubs · Post #517 » by **Psubs** » Mon Oct 28, 2024 4:16 pm

GLF wrote:
youngRAPZ wrote:I never understand why on this raptors board it always has to be one or the other. Davion has the backup job now and he will not block shead. If Shead proves to be better he will get more time period. Having two ball hawks backing up IQ is perfect. We are not a team that can have “expendable” depth.

My bet Mitchell gets a 2+1 team option or just a straight up 3 year deal after this year

I was just about to say this lol. This board always has to run to “this guy can be traded now” just bc someone else playing the same position is also playing well lol. I thought we need depth. Now we have two guys playing better than expected or as expected and you want to get rid of them. Both Shead and Davion can come off the bench and play together until we are 100% healthy. And I’m confident if Davion is having a bad game Darko won’t have a problem with giving Shead a look once we’re healthy and Shead becomes the 3rd stringer.

It's like giving Boucher minutes when can give more to Mogbo.

Once IQ comes back I don't want Shead to get 3rd string minutes. It might be like Davion is the Delon Wright and Shead is the FVV with better playmaking.

deck · Post #518 » by **deck** » Mon Oct 28, 2024 4:57 pm

Psubs wrote:
GLF wrote:
youngRAPZ wrote:I never understand why on this raptors board it always has to be one or the other. Davion has the backup job now and he will not block shead. If Shead proves to be better he will get more time period. Having two ball hawks backing up IQ is perfect. We are not a team that can have “expendable” depth.

My bet Mitchell gets a 2+1 team option or just a straight up 3 year deal after this year

I was just about to say this lol. This board always has to run to “this guy can be traded now” just bc someone else playing the same position is also playing well lol. I thought we need depth. Now we have two guys playing better than expected or as expected and you want to get rid of them. Both Shead and Davion can come off the bench and play together until we are 100% healthy. And I’m confident if Davion is having a bad game Darko won’t have a problem with giving Shead a look once we’re healthy and Shead becomes the 3rd stringer.

It's like giving Boucher minutes when can give more to Mogbo.

Once IQ comes back I don't want Shead to get 3rd string minutes. It might be like Davion is the Delon Wright and Shead is the FVV with better playmaking.

That's a fair way to look at it, but it does assume that the best path for Shead's development is to immediately play NBA minutes. This isn't always true for young players. FVV as an example played a decent amount of his rookie year in the 905. I don't think it is a given that he would have had a better career if he played more NBA minutes in that first season.

There is also something to be said for maintaining Mitchell's value ahead of the deadline if we do decide to move him.

That said, I do think Shead is demonstrating he is a mature player, so perhaps it would be best to get him back PG minutes straight away.

ItsDanger · Post #519 » by **ItsDanger** » Mon Oct 28, 2024 5:11 pm

youngRAPZ wrote:I never understand why on this raptors board it always has to be one or the other. Davion has the backup job now and he will not block shead. If Shead proves to be better he will get more time period. Having two ball hawks backing up IQ is perfect. We are not a team that can have “expendable” depth.

My bet Mitchell gets a 2+1 team option or just a straight up 3 year deal after this year

Shead is not your typical rookie. He's 22, 4yr college PG, from a top college program, and can handle backup role already. Most are fine with him being out of rotation for most of this season while they showcase Mitchell. But if they extend Mitchell, that's a clear roadblock to Shead's role until what? 3rd season? 4th? He'd be right to want out and I wouldn't blame him.

This season is mostly about seeing which of these supporting players can have roles in the near future.

ConSarnit · Post #520 » by **ConSarnit** » Mon Oct 28, 2024 5:19 pm

youngRAPZ wrote:I never understand why on this raptors board it always has to be one or the other. Davion has the backup job now and he will not block shead. If Shead proves to be better he will get more time period. Having two ball hawks backing up IQ is perfect. We are not a team that can have “expendable” depth.

My bet Mitchell gets a 2+1 team option or just a straight up 3 year deal after this year

What has Mitchell done to deserve any type of long term deal? This is not a "Shead should 100% be the backup" post but a "how is Mitchell getting anything more than 1 year min at this point?" comment.