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Pick #5 of Suns most hated top 10 list

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Suns most hated employee #5

Brandon Knight
2
12%
Jae Crowder
3
18%
Eric Bledsoe
0
No votes
Trevor Ariza
1
6%
Ann Meyers Drysdale
2
12%
Terry Porter
0
No votes
James Jones
1
6%
Antonio McDyess
0
No votes
Robert Horry
8
47%
Earl Watson
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 17

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Re: Suns most hated top 10 list 

Post#21 » by Big NBA Fan » Mon Oct 28, 2024 7:14 pm

Michael Beasley should be an option.

As for the person who mentioned Terry Porter, 95% of the players on the 09 Suns would probably agree with that. A bunch of players HATED Porter even though he's a good person from all accounts. He just never clicked with the players.

His basic drills and old school mentality went over very badly with the Suns players.
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Re: Suns most hated top 10 list 

Post#22 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Oct 28, 2024 10:32 pm

bwgood77 wrote:Earl Watson could also be a candidate for the list.

To me, Earl Watson, like McD is just a symptom of the greater disease that was Sarver. For that stretch between 2009 to 2020, we had 7 coaches, 4 of them were rookie head coaches, only one had more than 3 seasons of head coaching experience (Gentry) and essentially they were all hired because they were cheap. It wasn't until 2020 when Sarver actually forked out good money for a coveted head coach in Monty.

Watson was a terrible head coach and I don't know if the Chriss's, Bender's, Jackson's may have been better if we had someone who knew how to actually coach but those 3 guys paired with someone who just couldn't coach at all really exacerbated the issues. It all comes back to Sarver allowing this incompetence around the team.

I do think he was probably way over his head so his mistake was probably putting his name forward for the role but the fact he was given 3 chances to be head coach (took over from Hornacek, made full head coach, allowed to be head coach for 2017-2018) just speaks to the dysfunction at the top. Sarver should probably take the first 5 spots in a top 10 list lol and that's still getting off easy
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Re: Suns most hated top 10 list 

Post#23 » by Maze » Mon Oct 28, 2024 10:38 pm

Brandon Knight and those 20 ft J's urked me the most.McDonough/Sarver was severe depression.I probably have the most disdain for Robert Horry.The body check on Nash puts him over the top for me
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Re: Suns most hated top 10 list 

Post#24 » by KdoubleDees23 » Tue Oct 29, 2024 3:19 am

Crazy Ayton is in there ! He was a big reason we won WCF !
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Re: Suns most hated top 10 list 

Post#25 » by MrMiyagi » Tue Oct 29, 2024 3:41 am

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Re: Suns most hated top 10 list 

Post#26 » by TASTIC » Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:02 am

Jae Crowder - unforgiveable what he did to the team putting himself first when we were right there
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Re: Suns most hated top 10 list 

Post#27 » by bigfoot » Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:23 am

Unsurprisingly, Sarver checks in at number one with 58% of the vote. Onto the number 2 most hated vote. Don't forget to suggest the next person to add to the list.
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Re: Suns most hated top 10 list 

Post#28 » by bigfoot » Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:29 am

Image#2 ..

Personally I think McD was worse the Sarver. Both of them screwed over the culture created by Colangelo and Fitzsimmons.

My vote for up next: Deandre Ayton
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Re: Pick #2 of Suns most hated top 10 list 

Post#29 » by Mr Puddles » Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:32 am

Cheap Shot Rob by a country mile.

Next up: Jae 'I deserve to be a starter ahead of superior players or I'm going to throw a hissy fit' Crowder.
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Re: Suns most hated top 10 list 

Post#30 » by Slim Charless » Thu Oct 31, 2024 3:40 am

Slim Charless wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:Horry was a Sun for 32 games so he's an ex Suns employee


I almost voted for him. Still hate that guy lol. Very happy that his constant begging to get in the HOF and it hasn't worked


Bumping this cause **** Robert Horry. Cost us a chip....hopefully you guys all remember that lol.
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Re: Suns most hated top 10 list 

Post#31 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Oct 31, 2024 10:21 pm

bigfoot wrote:Image#2 ..

Personally I think McD was worse the Sarver. Both of them screwed over the culture created by Colangelo and Fitzsimmons.

My vote for up next: Deandre Ayton

That's an easy one for me. He was suppose to oversee the post-Nash era Suns and he had the picks and the low expectations (from a winning perspective) to really do what he needed to do. Instead he drafted bust after bust with our high lotto picks. Absolute waste of prime opportunity.
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Re: Pick #2 of Suns most hated top 10 list 

Post#32 » by bigfoot » Sun Nov 3, 2024 2:11 am

Okay now it gets interesting. Sarver and McD out of the way. Who is #3 ... the Morris twins, Crowder, Ayton, somebody else? Get your vote in and don't forget to add your "up next".
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Re: Pick #2 of Suns most hated top 10 list 

Post#33 » by lilfishi22 » Sun Nov 3, 2024 5:32 am

bigfoot wrote:Okay now it gets interesting. Sarver and McD out of the way. Who is #3 ... the Morris twins, Crowder, Ayton, somebody else? Get your vote in and don't forget to add your "up next".

Could see some "love" for JJ
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Re: Pick #3 of Suns most hated top 10 list 

Post#34 » by bigfoot » Sun Nov 3, 2024 1:15 pm

DA is my choice. Most infuriating Suns player ever. The Morris were douche bags but played hard every night. All-talk Ayton only showed up half the time. So many dumb moments from his substance ban to the stupid nicknames he made for himself
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Re: Pick #3 of Suns most hated top 10 list 

Post#35 » by bwgood77 » Sun Nov 3, 2024 5:08 pm

I probably hate Horry the most, then the Morris twins. If Brandon Knight was on there, he would win most infuriating ever. DA was frustrating, but better than I expected mostly, particularly in years 2 and 3 when he played a key part in getting us to the finals. I am more frustrated with McD about the DA stuff (if you want to blame Sarver for that fine), but it wasn't his fault we took him. He didn't play hard all the time, but that was the case coming out of college. He was unlikely to change. What was extremely frustrating was taking him over Luka who many of us knew would be great killing the euroleague at 17. We certainly had many worse busts as high picks. That was just a horrible pick given you had a generational player.

Players like JJ, Bender and Chriss were more frustrating. Those are all least players many of us wanted. JJ not showing up for team events where JJ had to stand in for him. Talk about Ayton being passive....nothing like Bender. And Chriss had the talent but was very frustrating. That whole era was frustrating. I think many thought Josh Jackson was the best player in that draft and he was terrible and didn't take being a Sun seriously whatsoever.

Crowder was a real bitch when he just decided not to play. That was probably the worst move. I didn't really hate him before that.

But since we have odd choices, it would have to be Morris twins or Horry.

Ayton should take #3 though, since this thread was created specifically for him...and we just played him last night and it was a good reminder of why he is so frustrating.
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Re: Pick #3 of Suns most hated top 10 list 

Post#36 » by Iceman36 » Sun Nov 3, 2024 7:21 pm

bwgood77 wrote:Crowder was a real bitch when he just decided not to play. That was probably the worst move. I didn't really hate him before that.


It's the same with me. Quitting on the team, when we were contenders was unforgiveable. So he got my vote. I liked him very much before, after that I hate him!
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Re: Pick #3 of Suns most hated top 10 list 

Post#37 » by bigfoot » Sun Nov 3, 2024 9:49 pm

bwgood77 wrote:DA was frustrating, but better than I expected mostly, particularly in years 2 and 3 when he played a key part in getting us to the finals. I am more frustrated with McD about the DA stuff (if you want to blame Sarver for that fine), but it wasn't his fault we took him. He didn't play hard all the time, but that was the case coming out of college. He was unlikely to change. What was extremely frustrating was taking him over Luka who many of us knew would be great killing the euroleague at 17. We certainly had many worse busts as high picks. That was just a horrible pick given you had a generational player.

Ayton should take #3 though, since this thread was created specifically for him...and we just played him last night and it was a good reminder of why he is so frustrating.


FYI ... I didn't created it for Ayton. I was watching the game threads and noticed how much hate Nurk was getting. I thought why not create a most hated poll. I remember people complaining about PJ Tucker hurting the tank. All summer long JJ getting grief over free agent and draft choices or lack there of. I can't help it if Ayton is disliked.

A simple comparison of Ryan Dunn to DA. Dunn is high IQ player lacking shooting skills. DA is a highly athletic freak but lacks sufficient brain cells to figure out the significantly more complex NBA game. Dunn can fix his shooting by putting up shots, Ayton can't fix his low BB IQ. Ayton's fault ... no, its the guy who drafted him. Still he was the most infuriating player I've had to watch in 50+ years of Suns fandom.
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Re: Pick #3 of Suns most hated top 10 list 

Post#38 » by MrMiyagi » Tue Nov 5, 2024 4:54 am

Add Grayson and his flying kicks to the back of opponents heads you coward.
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Re: Suns most hated top 10 list 

Post#39 » by kennydorglas » Tue Nov 5, 2024 4:07 pm

KdoubleDees23 wrote:Crazy Ayton is in there ! He was a big reason we won WCF !


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Re: Pick #3 of Suns most hated top 10 list 

Post#40 » by SunsRback4Good » Tue Nov 5, 2024 5:49 pm

Having Ayton as the third hated Sun all time is odd. Yes, he has his moments but he shouldn't even be close to top 5 most hated sun of all time. Seems like people have a certain agenda towards him it seems.

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