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OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!)

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Who are you voting?

Poll ended at Thu Nov 7, 2024 8:05 pm

Dr. Jill Stein
3
5%
Dr. Cornel West
1
2%
Chase Oliver
0
No votes
Claudia De la Cruz
0
No votes
Kamala Harris
35
56%
Donald J. Trump
14
22%
Writing myself in
2
3%
Not voting
6
10%
Other
2
3%
 
Total votes: 63

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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#361 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:38 am

Wow! Check this out! What this guy said to Mehdi about “I hope your beeper doesn’t go off.” This is outrageous.

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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#362 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:44 am

When it comes to getting a refund on that soiled dress you wore to your friend's wedding and then tried to return to the store like it was still new, being a squeaky wheel may get you results.

But when it comes to winning an election, the group that squawks the loudest is not necessarily what brings home the bacon. Oftentimes the results are inverse to the noise of the group voting. Votes win elections, not rallies.

While MAGAs take pride in being obnoxious towards most demographics, the volume and intensity of their mockery and their infantile rage is not always representative of the votes they marshall at the ballot box.

Come November 6th we'll see which side really turned out to vote, but my expectation remains that the biggest chit talkers will not be the biggest voting bloc.

This has been the case since 2020 over and over again and early voting numbers indicate there is more than a little chance that Democrats will once again outperform the increasingly inaccurate polls that muddy the waters.

Get out and vote Democrat and seal the deal.
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#363 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:50 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:Wow! Check this out! What this guy said to Mehdi about “I hope your beeper doesn’t go off.” This is outrageous.



Jesus. That's the normalization of stochastic terrorism right there. And the de-platforming of it in the correct reaction by the hosts. Disgusting.

I just searched this incident and CNN removed him on the following commercial break, issued a statement and banned Ryan Gidursky from ever appearing on CNN again.

THIS is what needs to happen. Cut off their public exposure. Stop this both sides talking head BS and stop giving Nazi trash a public platform.

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Yep, another standard MAGA "FU if you can't take a joke" cop-out. These MFs deserve every bit of scorn they bring upon themselves, because they meant it when they said it and they are not going to be held accountable for any of it.
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#364 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:16 am

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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#365 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Oct 29, 2024 7:18 am

Vice President Kamala Harris is seeing a significant surge in support from Black male voters — a critical voting bloc — signaling good news for her presidential campaign.

According to three new polls, younger Black men and Black men more broadly are increasingly getting behind Harris after months of polling showing a lag in their support.

A new ABC/Ipsos poll shows that the 2024 Democratic presidential nominee is now performing better with Black men than President Joe Biden’s ABC News exit polling in 2020. Harris amassed 85% support from Black men compared to Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump’s 11%. In 2020, Biden garnered 79% of the Black male vote, and Trump got 19%.

Vice President Harris is also outperforming Biden among all Black voters with 90% support compared to Trump’s 7%, according to the ABC/Ipsos survey. The news outlet’s 2020 exit polling saw Biden with 87% of the Black vote and Trump with 12%.


https://thegrio.com/2024/10/28/kamala-harris-sees-surge-with-black-male-voters-in-latest-polls/
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#366 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Oct 29, 2024 7:34 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
Vice President Kamala Harris is seeing a significant surge in support from Black male voters — a critical voting bloc — signaling good news for her presidential campaign.

According to three new polls, younger Black men and Black men more broadly are increasingly getting behind Harris after months of polling showing a lag in their support.

A new ABC/Ipsos poll shows that the 2024 Democratic presidential nominee is now performing better with Black men than President Joe Biden’s ABC News exit polling in 2020. Harris amassed 85% support from Black men compared to Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump’s 11%. In 2020, Biden garnered 79% of the Black male vote, and Trump got 19%.

Vice President Harris is also outperforming Biden among all Black voters with 90% support compared to Trump’s 7%, according to the ABC/Ipsos survey. The news outlet’s 2020 exit polling saw Biden with 87% of the Black vote and Trump with 12%.


https://thegrio.com/2024/10/28/kamala-harris-sees-surge-with-black-male-voters-in-latest-polls/


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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#367 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Oct 29, 2024 7:36 am

Turns out the Trump campaign approved Hinchcliffe's speech before he went on. They told him to take out the line where he was going to call Harris a C*nt but they didn't ask him to remove his other lines that are causing a ruckus now.

Nice to know it was authorized by Trump's people
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#368 » by Fat Kat » Tue Oct 29, 2024 9:29 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
Vice President Kamala Harris is seeing a significant surge in support from Black male voters — a critical voting bloc — signaling good news for her presidential campaign.

According to three new polls, younger Black men and Black men more broadly are increasingly getting behind Harris after months of polling showing a lag in their support.

A new ABC/Ipsos poll shows that the 2024 Democratic presidential nominee is now performing better with Black men than President Joe Biden’s ABC News exit polling in 2020. Harris amassed 85% support from Black men compared to Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump’s 11%. In 2020, Biden garnered 79% of the Black male vote, and Trump got 19%.

Vice President Harris is also outperforming Biden among all Black voters with 90% support compared to Trump’s 7%, according to the ABC/Ipsos survey. The news outlet’s 2020 exit polling saw Biden with 87% of the Black vote and Trump with 12%.


https://thegrio.com/2024/10/28/kamala-harris-sees-surge-with-black-male-voters-in-latest-polls/


This is no surprise, as she was never going to have a problem with the black vote. I think the press gives too much attention to how black folks vote, when we traditionally vote for our best interest. Historically 80-90%.

We need more round tables with white women and hispanics. Think pieces on their numbers, and the psychology behind white women backing an adjudicated rapist. The reasoning behind hispanics for Trump, which is a fairly big issue down here in Texas.
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#369 » by Pointgod » Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:22 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Wow! Check this out! What this guy said to Mehdi about “I hope your beeper doesn’t go off.” This is outrageous.



Jesus. That's the normalization of stochastic terrorism right there. And the de-platforming of it in the correct reaction by the hosts. Disgusting.

I just searched this incident and CNN removed him on the following commercial break, issued a statement and banned Ryan Gidursky from ever appearing on CNN again.

THIS is what needs to happen. Cut off their public exposure. Stop this both sides talking head BS and stop giving Nazi trash a public platform.

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Yep, another standard MAGA "FU if you can't take a joke" cop-out. These MFs deserve every bit of scorn they bring upon themselves, because they meant it when they said it and they are not going to be held accountable for any of it.


**** CNN. They know what kind of trash they put on their panels.

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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#370 » by St Knick » Tue Oct 29, 2024 1:54 pm

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Clyde_Style, you love to throw around the stochastic terrorism line.
What's your thoughts on MSNBC making absurd & reckless comparison of Trump's MSG Rally to a Nazi rally in the 1930's?
Based on the simple fact is was hosted in MSG. I guess the entire Knicks team are a bunch of nazi's too, considering they play in this same arena where Nazi's once held a rally 90 years ago.

Don't you think that might embolden some of the crazies to do engage in domestic terrorism? Attack Trump supporters? Worse?
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#371 » by DOT » Tue Oct 29, 2024 2:06 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:
Vice President Kamala Harris is seeing a significant surge in support from Black male voters — a critical voting bloc — signaling good news for her presidential campaign.

According to three new polls, younger Black men and Black men more broadly are increasingly getting behind Harris after months of polling showing a lag in their support.

A new ABC/Ipsos poll shows that the 2024 Democratic presidential nominee is now performing better with Black men than President Joe Biden’s ABC News exit polling in 2020. Harris amassed 85% support from Black men compared to Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump’s 11%. In 2020, Biden garnered 79% of the Black male vote, and Trump got 19%.

Vice President Harris is also outperforming Biden among all Black voters with 90% support compared to Trump’s 7%, according to the ABC/Ipsos survey. The news outlet’s 2020 exit polling saw Biden with 87% of the Black vote and Trump with 12%.


https://thegrio.com/2024/10/28/kamala-harris-sees-surge-with-black-male-voters-in-latest-polls/


This is no surprise, as she was never going to have a problem with the black vote. I think the press gives too much attention to how black folks vote, when we traditionally vote for our best interest. Historically 80-90%.

We need more round tables with white women and hispanics. Think pieces on their numbers, and the psychology behind white women backing an adjudicated rapist. The reasoning behind hispanics for Trump, which is a fairly big issue down here in Texas.

The saying is, white women think of themselves as being white before they think of themselves as being women

Here's the full data: https://www.langerresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/1238a2TheClosingDays.pdf

So a few interesting things, Kamala gained on Biden in all but 2 age groups, the 18-29 range and the 50-64 range. However, the 18-29 range is still the 2nd-most blue leaning age group (only trailing the 30-39 range by 1 point), and Kamala fully flipped the age 65+ range, who went Trump +5 in 2020 but are Kamala +5 here. Trump's support among the non-college educated whites is remaining steady, but Kamala's support among college-educated whites is significantly better than Biden's, Trump actually won white men with college degrees by 3 points, this poll has Kamala +4 with that same group. Biden won white women with college degrees by 9 points, this poll has Kamala +23 in that same group

The 65+ figure is really intriguing when you put it next to early voting, because as of right now, 46% of all early votes are from people age 65+, so if Kamala is winning those votes, that's really good for her

The other interesting thing is the Independent vote, this poll has them basically dead even, Kamala 48 to Trump 47, a group Biden won by 13 points. However, I have a theory:

I think when you look at it, Trump's biggest increase is with white men who aren't college educated and are likely in the 18-29 age range (likely an increase in the 30-39 age range, but this poll combines the two ages and doesn't break it down by race). I believe those people are far more likely to register Independent, and therefore are skewing the Independent results. For reference, women in that same 18-39 age range are polled as Kamala +34, to men as Trump +5

The number the GOP needs to fear is the last group, the suburban folk. Trump won suburban men by 10 points in 2020, this poll has him at just +5. Biden won the suburban women vote by +13 in 2020, this has Kamala +19 with them. We know the urban vote is gonna go Kamala while the rural vote goes Trump, but it's been the suburban vote keeping him in the races. If that shift is real, if the suburban white folk are leaving him, he's cooked

End of the day, it all comes down to turnout. Trump is gonna hit his ceiling of ~47% of the vote, Kamala has a much higher ceiling but needs to drive it out. And it depends on turnout in the swing states. Early voting in PA and MI looks good so far, and while NC and GA have Republican leans, early turnout has been huge, which is usually good for Dems. Same thing with TX and FL, both have over 5 million votes already cast, both were around 11 million total in 2020, traditionally speaking higher turnout is good for Dems. I don't think either those states flip, I think they're both solidly Republican, but I'd rather have higher than lower turnout, cause it signals enthusiasm, which is how Dems win.
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#372 » by Stannis » Tue Oct 29, 2024 2:50 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:Wow! Check this out! What this guy said to Mehdi about “I hope your beeper doesn’t go off.” This is outrageous.


Yeah, some of these people grew overly confident recently. Glad CNN decide to separate for him, so there's at least some justice here. May Allah bless Mehdi. He's been putting on the good fight, and I know it ain't easy going on live TV knowing very well people will attack you like this.

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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#373 » by DOT » Tue Oct 29, 2024 3:35 pm

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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#374 » by Kampuchea » Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:40 pm

True? Are Republicans winning PA based on the trend?

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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#375 » by Stannis » Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:42 pm

Big earnings coming up. Not sure if this will affect the elections or not.

Just this week, we got Visa, Alphabet, Microsoft, Meta, Coinbase, Starbucks, Apple, Amazon, Intel, Mastercard, Uber, Cterpillar, Chiptole, McDonalds, Pfizer, jetBlue, BP, Chubb, Chevron

Names all over the sector which can give us more insight on the economy and consumer spending.

Ideally, if you are Harris, you want things to at least stay flat with no big company reporting fear/uncertainty/despair.

If you are Donald Trump, you are praying these companies report FUD and sandbag their earnings and hurt people's 401Ks.
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#376 » by ScienceOfLosing » Tue Oct 29, 2024 5:40 pm

Things just got worse for Kamala. Why did she refuse the interview w Rogan? Maybe the questions wouldn’t be given to her ahead of time. Tens of millions of listeners, like a big free ad, poof! Enter Vance.

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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#377 » by Fury » Tue Oct 29, 2024 5:49 pm

ScienceOfLosing wrote:Things just got worse for Kamala. Why did she refuse the interview w Rogan? Maybe the questions wouldn’t be given to her ahead of time. Tens of millions of listeners, like a big free ad, poof! Enter Vance.

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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#378 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:31 pm

ScienceOfLosing wrote:Things just got worse for Kamala. Why did she refuse the interview w Rogan? Maybe the questions wouldn’t be given to her ahead of time. Tens of millions of listeners, like a big free ad, poof! Enter Vance.

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She did Fox News with Brett Baier. Will Trump go on MSNBC? He won’t even debate Kamala again because he got his ass beat so bigly and strongly.
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#379 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Oct 29, 2024 7:03 pm

DOT wrote:Almost a decade old at this point, but still relevant:

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It's crazy how the same folks who thought the racist and hateful events of Saturday were so funny. "It's just humor!!" they said.

Fast forward to today and they're all crying because they're being called Nazis.

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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#380 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Oct 29, 2024 7:04 pm

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Gotta wonder why Republicans are committing arson to prevent votes from being counted. It's almost as if they're afraid that they're going to lose.
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