Predictions for 2024/2025 Season

AdonalFoyle4Prez · Post #1 » by **AdonalFoyle4Prez** » Mon Oct 28, 2024 6:16 pm

Should have made this before the season began (If there is one, please merge or delete this). But, saw what happened yesterday with Curry, all the more reason to have all players stepping up.

See poll, decide and discuss.

CDM_Stats · Post #2 » by **CDM_Stats** » Mon Oct 28, 2024 6:29 pm

We wont know much about JK until he's exclusively played at the position where he can do damage (to the other team, to be clear)

This forced starting lineup, that ultimate gets 3-4 shifts per game, is such a waste of time. Proves thing that should already be known. Until the players are put into the best position to succeed, evaluating them is tough

That said I'm wholly underwhelmed with Podz so far this year, dating back to PS

AdonalFoyle4Prez · Post #3 » by **AdonalFoyle4Prez** » Mon Oct 28, 2024 6:48 pm

Ideal Death (Wish) line-up should be:

Curry
Hield
Wiggins
Kuminga
Green

Just don't think Kuminga has the mental capacity to play the 4. And not sure how much punishment Green can take at the 5 going on 34/35 years old.

Onus · Post #4 » by **Onus** » Mon Oct 28, 2024 7:39 pm

All of our young players are pretty disappointing tbh. They top out as role players at best. The Jazz counter offer that they made wasn't bad. I would've argued about some of the picks and putting protections on them but trading all the young players would've been fine.

JK is probably John Collins. Hopefully we trade him before he gets an offer or takes the QO.

Jester_ · Post #5 » by **Jester_** » Mon Oct 28, 2024 7:52 pm

CDM_Stats wrote:We wont know much about JK until he's exclusively played at the position where he can do damage (to the other team, to be clear)

This forced starting lineup, that ultimate gets 3-4 shifts per game, is such a waste of time. Proves thing that should already be known. Until the players are put into the best position to succeed, evaluating them is tough

That said I'm wholly underwhelmed with Podz so far this year, dating back to PS

kuminga sucking is the best thing to happen to podz because he's been straight ass almost every minute i've seen him on the floor this year. he's contributing little offensively and looks entirely lost on rotations

AdonalFoyle4Prez · Post #6 » by **AdonalFoyle4Prez** » Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:33 pm

Jester_ wrote:
CDM_Stats wrote:We wont know much about JK until he's exclusively played at the position where he can do damage (to the other team, to be clear)

This forced starting lineup, that ultimate gets 3-4 shifts per game, is such a waste of time. Proves thing that should already be known. Until the players are put into the best position to succeed, evaluating them is tough

That said I'm wholly underwhelmed with Podz so far this year, dating back to PS

kuminga sucking is the best thing to happen to podz because he's been straight ass almost every minute i've seen him on the floor this year. he's contributing little offensively and looks entirely lost on rotations

Looks like we have a Sophomore Slumper on our hands! Podz is probably figuring out what else he can do to maximize his skillset. What he's forgetting to do is sticking to his strengths (Rebounding, secondary ball-handler) and let his overall skill and game develop/mature as he gains experience. This is not going to be a good season for him to not realize that as he's focusing too much on helping out the team (Which, at this point in time, is hurting the team).

Kuminga for a late 1st round to early 2nd rounder seems likely. He just doesn't have the bball iq.

HiRez · Post #7 » by **HiRez** » Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:46 pm

Onus wrote:All of our young players are pretty disappointing tbh. They top out as role players at best. The Jazz counter offer that they made wasn't bad. I would've argued about some of the picks and putting protections on them but trading all the young players would've been fine.

JK is probably John Collins. Hopefully we trade him before he gets an offer or takes the QO.

To be fair, most of our young players were not high lottery picks. A role-player is probably what you expect (or more reasonably, hope) to find at #14 (Moody) and #19 (Podz), TJD is an absolute steal at #57 if he's a role-player.

The only one you could legitimately be disappointed in at this point is Kuminga at #7 and the jury is still out on him, having just turned 22 a few weeks ago. And we have to be honest that he has not been put into an ideal system to maximize his talents. How many of the guys picked below him have really shined? You can make an argument for Wagner (who I had slightly above Kuminga on draft night because of his fit for Kerr's system) and certainly Sengun, but really, it's not like they missed out on an obvious Kobe or whatever. Maybe Trey Murphy depending on what you need? For every Stephen Curry or Lauri Markkanen picked at #7, there's at least one Killian Hayes or Greg Monroe.

Bottom line is the young guys have been about as good as could reasonably be expected, given the draft circumstances.

vvoland · Post #8 » by **vvoland** » Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:59 pm

Onus wrote:All of our young players are pretty disappointing tbh. They top out as role players at best. The Jazz counter offer that they made wasn't bad. I would've argued about some of the picks and putting protections on them but trading all the young players would've been fine.

JK is probably John Collins. Hopefully we trade him before he gets an offer or takes the QO.

While I was never that high on podz, it's not like Lauri is lighting it up to start. Looked awful against us and hasn't exactly shined since. Small sample size works both ways.

Onus · Post #9 » by **Onus** » Tue Oct 29, 2024 9:42 pm

HiRez wrote:
Onus wrote:All of our young players are pretty disappointing tbh. They top out as role players at best. The Jazz counter offer that they made wasn't bad. I would've argued about some of the picks and putting protections on them but trading all the young players would've been fine.

JK is probably John Collins. Hopefully we trade him before he gets an offer or takes the QO.

To be fair, most of our young players were not high lottery picks. A role-player is probably what you expect (or more reasonably, hope) to find at #14 (Moody) and #19 (Podz), TJD is an absolute steal at #57 if he's a role-player.

The only one you could legitimately be disappointed in at this point is Kuminga at #7 and the jury is still out on him, having just turned 22 a few weeks ago. And we have to be honest that he has not been put into an ideal system to maximize his talents. How many of the guys picked below him have really shined? You can make an argument for Wagner (who I had slightly above Kuminga on draft night because of his fit for Kerr's system) and certainly Sengun, but really, it's not like they missed out on an obvious Kobe or whatever. Maybe Trey Murphy depending on what you need? For every Stephen Curry or Lauri Markkanen picked at #7, there's at least one Killian Hayes or Greg Monroe.

Bottom line is the young guys have been about as good as could reasonably be expected, given the draft circumstances.

They arent disappointing persay more so disappointing that we didn't trade them for a clear and obvious upgrade.

To be fair Franz would probably come off the bench here as well. But at least he would be in the closing lineup.

Jester_ · Post #10 » by **Jester_** » Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:30 pm

Onus wrote:
HiRez wrote:
Onus wrote:All of our young players are pretty disappointing tbh. They top out as role players at best. The Jazz counter offer that they made wasn't bad. I would've argued about some of the picks and putting protections on them but trading all the young players would've been fine.

JK is probably John Collins. Hopefully we trade him before he gets an offer or takes the QO.

To be fair, most of our young players were not high lottery picks. A role-player is probably what you expect (or more reasonably, hope) to find at #14 (Moody) and #19 (Podz), TJD is an absolute steal at #57 if he's a role-player.

The only one you could legitimately be disappointed in at this point is Kuminga at #7 and the jury is still out on him, having just turned 22 a few weeks ago. And we have to be honest that he has not been put into an ideal system to maximize his talents. How many of the guys picked below him have really shined? You can make an argument for Wagner (who I had slightly above Kuminga on draft night because of his fit for Kerr's system) and certainly Sengun, but really, it's not like they missed out on an obvious Kobe or whatever. Maybe Trey Murphy depending on what you need? For every Stephen Curry or Lauri Markkanen picked at #7, there's at least one Killian Hayes or Greg Monroe.

Bottom line is the young guys have been about as good as could reasonably be expected, given the draft circumstances.

They arent disappointing persay more so disappointing that we didn't trade them for a clear and obvious upgrade.

To be fair Franz would probably come off the bench here as well. But at least he would be in the closing lineup.

fo and our fans always overrate the hell out of our own players. people seem to forget that steph curry and our system makes scrubs look good

reggie williams, dorell wright, festus ezeli, jordan bell, eric paschall, etc. etc. we have a long history of scrubs popping off and looking better than they are in our system. the fact we continue to get goaded into overrating our young talent is so annoying

i'm pretty sure harrison barnes was more valuable than any of our young players now