Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5

[Iscull]

So Maxey is expected to carry when we have 80+ million in cap missing from the lineup? I get that Maxey isn't playing well right now; but, there aren't many people who can carry a team with almost half of a team's cap space not available. Brunson can't do it; Kobe couldn't either.

Amen. Exactly what I’m saying

[Iscull]

Maxey needs to spend all his lab time working on distribution. He needs to be the floor general now. Scoring is secondary. Make everyone else around you better. He hasn't shown very much of this to date.

Short scoring guards are not the centerpiece of title teams. Of all teams, we should know this. Good news is the Sixers don't need him to be IF Embiid and George are right. Big if.

I don't disagree with you. But it's funny because a week or two ago all the discussion around here was that Maxey should be the leading scorer and shot-taker for this team (not that you said it - I have no idea).

I do think some people somehow forget how exceptional of an offensive player Embiid is.

There were some of us who were hoping Maxey could be the man. I mean, he's already far exceeded any reasonable expectations for him out of Kentucky. But it does not appear to be the case. We have about half a year of evidence now that says Maxey as a 1 is subpar. So he needs to adapt.

The game does not reward dumping the ball in the post to the big man anymore. And the primary role of a C in the NBA now i(save Jokic) is to be the defensive anchor. Therefore having Jo as the primary option is also not ideal.

You really need a self creating wing that can shoot as your number one. The Sixers have an older version of this who is almost as injury prone as Jo and also with the same questions as Jo about performance under pressure.

Listen: this is what the Sixers are for the next four years. Pray that one of the years they can all get it together for 24 games or so in April through June.

45 in one half against the team that went to the ECF last year with a healthy lineup

[M2J]

Coaching is also letting Maxey down. I don't recall us running any kind of offense to make it easier for him.

I do not understand why this team isn't running Steph Curry off ball screens for Maxey. I'm not saying Maxey is Curry, he isn't, but this team could copy the staggered screens to try and get Maxey freed up for a catch and shoot shot.

The one thing I miss with Brett is he had some excellent off ball schemes to get JJ to his spots with a window to catch and shoot.

Maxey isn't Steph, but he is the closest thing to it in this league, along with Jamal Murray when he's at his best... Rarely.

Last year Nurse did do it, and Maxey led the league in the traditional Steph Curry led stat of miles per game. I has been calling for them to do it when they had James Harden, but they didn't... and that's why I wanted James to leave for nothing. But Nick's system lends to it as well.

Problem is, when there are not other dynamic players in the game. That style of play is not super consistent even with Steph Curry... It works with Joel on the court, and should work with Paul George on the court eventually. Last season when Joel was out, they lacked the shooting and play making. So far, same thing.

But again that style of play is more important to winning than a play making assisting guard because of the opportunities or creates for others without even touching the ball. Toronto for instance pressed Maxey without the ball as well... And if there was a team that could take advantage of that level of spacing, it could lead to several opportunities

[M2J]

I don't disagree with you. But it's funny because a week or two ago all the discussion around here was that Maxey should be the leading scorer and shot-taker for this team (not that you said it - I have no idea).

I do think some people somehow forget how exceptional of an offensive player Embiid is.

There were some of us who were hoping Maxey could be the man. I mean, he's already far exceeded any reasonable expectations for him out of Kentucky. But it does not appear to be the case. We have about half a year of evidence now that says Maxey as a 1 is subpar. So he needs to adapt.

The game does not reward dumping the ball in the post to the big man anymore. And the primary role of a C in the NBA now i(save Jokic) is to be the defensive anchor. Therefore having Jo as the primary option is also not ideal.

You really need a self creating wing that can shoot as your number one. The Sixers have an older version of this who is almost as injury prone as Jo and also with the same questions as Jo about performance under pressure.

Listen: this is what the Sixers are for the next four years. Pray that one of the years they can all get it together for 24 games or so in April through June.

45 in one half against the team that went to the ECF last year with a healthy lineup

You win!

[Black Mage]

Coaching is also letting Maxey down. I don't recall us running any kind of offense to make it easier for him.

I do not understand why this team isn't running Steph Curry off ball screens for Maxey. I'm not saying Maxey is Curry, he isn't, but this team could copy the staggered screens to try and get Maxey freed up for a catch and shoot shot.

The one thing I miss with Brett is he had some excellent off ball schemes to get JJ to his spots with a window to catch and shoot.

Maxey isn't Steph, but he is the closest thing to it in this league, along with Jamal Murray when he's at his best... Rarely.

Last year Nurse did do it, and Maxey led the league in the traditional Steph Curry led stat of miles per game. I has been calling for them to do it when they had James Harden, but they didn't... and that's why I wanted James to leave for nothing. But Nick's system lends to it as well.

Problem is, when there are not other dynamic players in the game. That style of play is not super consistent even with Steph Curry... It works with Joel on the court, and should work with Paul George on the court eventually. Last season when Joel was out, they lacked the shooting and play making. So far, same thing.

But again that style of play is more important to winning than a play making assisting guard because of the opportunities or creates for others without even touching the ball. Toronto for instance pressed Maxey without the ball as well... And if there was a team that could take advantage of that level of spacing, it could lead to several opportunities

What I did not like, especially in the 1st half yesterday, was seeing 4 statues on offense with not a single "play" being run other than watch guy with ball and wait for him to make something happen. If that is what passes as coaching; I need to start applying for a cushy multi-million dollar a year job.

[Iverson Armband]

I don't disagree with you. But it's funny because a week or two ago all the discussion around here was that Maxey should be the leading scorer and shot-taker for this team (not that you said it - I have no idea).

I do think some people somehow forget how exceptional of an offensive player Embiid is.

There were some of us who were hoping Maxey could be the man. I mean, he's already far exceeded any reasonable expectations for him out of Kentucky. But it does not appear to be the case. We have about half a year of evidence now that says Maxey as a 1 is subpar. So he needs to adapt.

The game does not reward dumping the ball in the post to the big man anymore. And the primary role of a C in the NBA now i(save Jokic) is to be the defensive anchor. Therefore having Jo as the primary option is also not ideal.

You really need a self creating wing that can shoot as your number one. The Sixers have an older version of this who is almost as injury prone as Jo and also with the same questions as Jo about performance under pressure.

Listen: this is what the Sixers are for the next four years. Pray that one of the years they can all get it together for 24 games or so in April through June.

45 in one half against the team that went to the ECF last year with a healthy lineup

I really hate to do this because I love Maxey, but he shot 29% from 3 and 44% from 2. Respectable showing but in no way suddenly proves he’s a 1A.

[Jailblazers7]

I’m less concerned about Maxey’s efficiency & more encouraged by his approach yesterday. His shot wasn’t falling so he made a concerted effort to get to the rim repeatedly. That led to FTs, layups, and some shots falling because he worked himself into a rhythm. That’s a great sign for an emerging star imo.

[Sixerscan]

I mean the idea of Maxey eventually becoming the leading scorer with Embiid still averaging like 28 and George like 20 is pretty different than with Oubre as the second option. He's 23 still.

[the_process]

There were some of us who were hoping Maxey could be the man. I mean, he's already far exceeded any reasonable expectations for him out of Kentucky. But it does not appear to be the case. We have about half a year of evidence now that says Maxey as a 1 is subpar. So he needs to adapt.

The game does not reward dumping the ball in the post to the big man anymore. And the primary role of a C in the NBA now i(save Jokic) is to be the defensive anchor. Therefore having Jo as the primary option is also not ideal.

You really need a self creating wing that can shoot as your number one. The Sixers have an older version of this who is almost as injury prone as Jo and also with the same questions as Jo about performance under pressure.

Listen: this is what the Sixers are for the next four years. Pray that one of the years they can all get it together for 24 games or so in April through June.

45 in one half against the team that went to the ECF last year with a healthy lineup

I really hate to do this because I love Maxey, but he shot 29% from 3 and 44% from 2. Respectable showing but in no way suddenly proves he’s a 1A.

45 points on 32 shots. Also 5-17 from 3. Volume scoring alone proves nothing and is not impressive.

[the_process]

Really hoping it’s Eason. Would love a McCain-Eason swap.

I keep being confused by this. I'd be excited if we got Eason but he won't come cheap at all--at minimum be McCain + good pick(s)--plus he's a weak shooter that we don't know could be playable deeper in the PO. Do folks just think he'd be relatively cheap because HOU has too many young guys?

I would not trade McCain for Eason straight up. Jared is going to explode like AR15 in this league.

That is a poor take IMO.

[Stanford]

I keep being confused by this. I'd be excited if we got Eason but he won't come cheap at all--at minimum be McCain + good pick(s)--plus he's a weak shooter that we don't know could be playable deeper in the PO. Do folks just think he'd be relatively cheap because HOU has too many young guys?

I would not trade McCain for Eason straight up. Jared is going to explode like AR15 in this league.

That is a poor take IMO.

New season, new infamous poster.

[M2J]

45 in one half against the team that went to the ECF last year with a healthy lineup

I really hate to do this because I love Maxey, but he shot 29% from 3 and 44% from 2. Respectable showing but in no way suddenly proves he’s a 1A.

45 points on 32 shots. Also 5-17 from 3. Volume scoring alone proves nothing and is not impressive.

I'm a vacuum that's way too simplistic. The efficiency in which he took over that second half to BEAT the fully healthy team fresh off theECF.... in a game in which that other Tyrese's shot was falling was mighty impressive and proved a lot.

[the_process]

I really hate to do this because I love Maxey, but he shot 29% from 3 and 44% from 2. Respectable showing but in no way suddenly proves he’s a 1A.

45 points on 32 shots. Also 5-17 from 3. Volume scoring alone proves nothing and is not impressive.

I'm a vacuum that's way too simplistic. The efficiency in which he took over that second half to BEAT the fully healthy team fresh off theECF.... in a game in which that other Tyrese's shot was falling was mighty impressive and proved a lot.

Agree to disagree then.

[WentzerWuver]

I keep being confused by this. I'd be excited if we got Eason but he won't come cheap at all--at minimum be McCain + good pick(s)--plus he's a weak shooter that we don't know could be playable deeper in the PO. Do folks just think he'd be relatively cheap because HOU has too many young guys?

I would not trade McCain for Eason straight up. Jared is going to explode like AR15 in this league.

That is a poor take IMO.

I didn't say as a rookie but down the road. If Morey wanted immediate production, he would have drafted Knecht. Eason doesn't even have any tik tok followers, so Jared brings in millions more frenzy Sixers fans like the Swifties for the Chiefs.

https://youtube.com/shorts/LbbPJ6HQPUQ?si=LuZAjnz691GkIIdv

[Iscull]

45 in one half against the team that went to the ECF last year with a healthy lineup

I really hate to do this because I love Maxey, but he shot 29% from 3 and 44% from 2. Respectable showing but in no way suddenly proves he’s a 1A.

45 points on 32 shots. Also 5-17 from 3. Volume scoring alone proves nothing and is not impressive.

We won without our 2 key starters. No one else on the team was going to step up. He did

If he shoots under 30% from 3 for the rest of the season you have something to talk about

[phillynative]

I want to see Gershon take more 3s and post smaller players.

[Iverson Armband]

I really hate to do this because I love Maxey, but he shot 29% from 3 and 44% from 2. Respectable showing but in no way suddenly proves he’s a 1A.

45 points on 32 shots. Also 5-17 from 3. Volume scoring alone proves nothing and is not impressive.

We won without our 2 key starters. No one else on the team was going to step up. He did

If he shoots under 30% from 3 for the rest of the season you have something to talk about

What’s the point of discussing anything until after the season then. Right now, he doesn’t look like a guy who can carry a team. Doesn’t mean he isn’t a good player or won’t be capable in the future.

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That was easily the best shot Embiid had at making a serious playoff run. Harden was the perfect guy to pair with Embiid and Maxey, just a damn shame some moves weren't made then to really improve the rest of the roster.

[M2J]

45 points on 32 shots. Also 5-17 from 3. Volume scoring alone proves nothing and is not impressive.

We won without our 2 key starters. No one else on the team was going to step up. He did

If he shoots under 30% from 3 for the rest of the season you have something to talk about

What’s the point of discussing anything until after the season then. Right now, he doesn’t look like a guy who can carry a team. Doesn’t mean he isn’t a good player or won’t be capable in the future.

Strong suggestion for yourself, especially considering the 2 highest paid Max players on the team have contributed as much as you and I have.... Meaning there's not a team to carry. But, you say whatever his stats were and it won't change the very FACT that he did just indeed carry this team to an impressive win vs a team they shouldn't have been able to beat on the road.