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Post#41 » by RaptorLakerJay » Sun Oct 27, 2024 6:36 am

I'd be interested in seeing Mogbo as backup 5 and Kelly at backup 4 since we all think Kelly is better suited somewhere other than at center.
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Post#42 » by Thaddy » Sun Oct 27, 2024 8:13 am

RaptorLakerJay wrote:I'd be interested in seeing Mogbo as backup 5 and Kelly at backup 4 since we all think Kelly is better suited somewhere other than at center.

I don't see a reason to throw him in the fire. He would be best going into the GLeague and working on forward skills. I would keep him long term at the 5 but playing a perimeter role in the minor league will give him transferable skills as a small ball 5.

The bench looks deep right now with Agbaji and Shead contributing but that could quickly change.

Poeltl / Olynyk
Barnes / Agbaji / Boucher
Barrett / Brown
Dick / / Shead
Quickely / Mitchell

It's under sized but if the other team lacks a true center it could work. We should play our best players the most to build trade value.
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Post#43 » by Tripod » Sun Oct 27, 2024 12:32 pm

Thaddy wrote:
RaptorLakerJay wrote:I'd be interested in seeing Mogbo as backup 5 and Kelly at backup 4 since we all think Kelly is better suited somewhere other than at center.

I don't see a reason to throw him in the fire. He would be best going into the GLeague and working on forward skills. I would keep him long term at the 5 but playing a perimeter role in the minor league will give him transferable skills as a small ball 5.

The bench looks deep right now with Agbaji and Shead contributing but that could quickly change.

Poeltl / Olynyk
Barnes / Agbaji / Boucher
Barrett / Brown
Dick / / Shead
Quickely / Mitchell

It's under sized but if the other team lacks a true center it could work. We should play our best players the most to build trade value.

Yeah I want him getting those 905 minutes and working on shooting....as ugly as it might be to go thru. He needs lots and lots of reps on and off the court.

Man it feels nice to look at our roster and see prospects and a pipeline of potential rotational guys. Then add in 3 1sts and Portlands's 2nd the next 2 years and that pipeline expands.

Will be interesting to see end of year Mogbo vs how he is now.
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Re: What's your ideal lineup/rotations? 

Post#44 » by Kingsway_fan » Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:16 pm

Tripod wrote:
Thaddy wrote:
RaptorLakerJay wrote:I'd be interested in seeing Mogbo as backup 5 and Kelly at backup 4 since we all think Kelly is better suited somewhere other than at center.

I don't see a reason to throw him in the fire. He would be best going into the GLeague and working on forward skills. I would keep him long term at the 5 but playing a perimeter role in the minor league will give him transferable skills as a small ball 5.

The bench looks deep right now with Agbaji and Shead contributing but that could quickly change.

Poeltl / Olynyk
Barnes / Agbaji / Boucher
Barrett / Brown
Dick / / Shead
Quickely / Mitchell

It's under sized but if the other team lacks a true center it could work. We should play our best players the most to build trade value.

Yeah I want him getting those 905 minutes and working on shooting....as ugly as it might be to go thru. He needs lots and lots of reps on and off the court.

Man it feels nice to look at our roster and see prospects and a pipeline of potential rotational guys. Then add in 3 1sts and Portlands's 2nd the next 2 years and that pipeline expands.

Will be interesting to see end of year Mogbo vs how he is now.


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Post#45 » by Psubs » Sun Oct 27, 2024 2:45 pm

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Tripod wrote:
Thaddy wrote:I don't see a reason to throw him in the fire. He would be best going into the GLeague and working on forward skills. I would keep him long term at the 5 but playing a perimeter role in the minor league will give him transferable skills as a small ball 5.

The bench looks deep right now with Agbaji and Shead contributing but that could quickly change.

Poeltl / Olynyk
Barnes / Agbaji / Boucher
Barrett / Brown
Dick / / Shead
Quickely / Mitchell

It's under sized but if the other team lacks a true center it could work. We should play our best players the most to build trade value.

Yeah I want him getting those 905 minutes and working on shooting....as ugly as it might be to go thru. He needs lots and lots of reps on and off the court.

Man it feels nice to look at our roster and see prospects and a pipeline of potential rotational guys. Then add in 3 1sts and Portlands's 2nd the next 2 years and that pipeline expands.

Will be interesting to see end of year Mogbo vs how he is now.


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I think he just forgot Battle, who will stay with the big club. He just needs more experience and PT with the Raptors. I think he meant Mogbo going to the 905, which I don't think is needed either. Really Chomche and I guess Carton are the only ones that needs 30mpg with the 905.
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Re: What's your ideal lineup/rotations? 

Post#46 » by dagger » Sun Oct 27, 2024 3:07 pm

Sometime in the next week, we will probably see a starting lineup of Quickley, Barrett, Barnes, Poeltl and Dick for the first time. It will be interesting how the guys identify “best looks” because all can score in different ways. This lineup, when it gets some cohesion, ought to be very interesting and challenging to opponents to defend.
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Post#47 » by dagger » Sun Oct 27, 2024 3:09 pm

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Kingsway_fan wrote:
Tripod wrote:Yeah I want him getting those 905 minutes and working on shooting....as ugly as it might be to go thru. He needs lots and lots of reps on and off the court.

Man it feels nice to look at our roster and see prospects and a pipeline of potential rotational guys. Then add in 3 1sts and Portlands's 2nd the next 2 years and that pipeline expands.

Will be interesting to see end of year Mogbo vs how he is now.


BATTLE?
I think he just forgot Battle, who will stay with the big club. He just needs more experience and PT with the Raptors. I think he meant Mogbo going to the 905, which I don't think is needed either. Really Chomche and I guess Carton are the only ones that needs 30mpg with the 905.


When the team is healthy, all of the young guys are going to see less time in the Raptors rotation, so the rookies will need to get much of their minutes with the 905
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Post#48 » by Rapsalot » Sun Oct 27, 2024 3:18 pm

Current and healthy:
IQ, DM / JS - BB, GD, GT - RJB, OA, J’KW - SB, KO, JM - JP, CB, BF J Battle night where we struggle for 3s

Ideal with trades:
IQ, DM / JS - RJB, GD,GT - Herb Jones, OA, J’KW - SB, KO, JM - Clint Capela, Ives Missi, CB
You said ideal. CC signs for 3 years $60 mil descending 21,20, 19 with third year TO. BB for CC JP + pacer 2026 first for Herb and Ives. This would help depth at big wing more D/3 and C depth now and future. N.O. gets perfect, smart C to team with their front court win now sign BI but have to trade CJM this year for some expires LAL most likely.
We should send BF back to ATL if CBA allows to sweeten trade and help them move a longer money wing. {BF trade Dec 15}
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Post#49 » by Tripod » Sun Oct 27, 2024 3:21 pm

dagger wrote:
Psubs wrote:
Kingsway_fan wrote:
BATTLE?
I think he just forgot Battle, who will stay with the big club. He just needs more experience and PT with the Raptors. I think he meant Mogbo going to the 905, which I don't think is needed either. Really Chomche, and I guess Carton are the only ones that needs 30mpg with the 905.


When the team is healthy, all of the young guys are going to see less time in the Raptors rotation, so the rookies will need to get much of their minutes with the 905

Yup.

Adding back in IQ, RJ, Brown and Olynyk makes their minutes disappear. Having Walter, Shead, Mogbo, Battle, Carton and Chomche eat up minutes in the 905 will be important for their development. They can still get some with the Raps but not the 15-25 like some have gotten so far.

It's just nice that when healthy, we are looking to have a playable deeper bench so if a guy struggles, we have other playable options.
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Post#50 » by Thaddy » Sun Oct 27, 2024 9:32 pm

Psubs wrote:
Kingsway_fan wrote:
Tripod wrote:Yeah I want him getting those 905 minutes and working on shooting....as ugly as it might be to go thru. He needs lots and lots of reps on and off the court.

Man it feels nice to look at our roster and see prospects and a pipeline of potential rotational guys. Then add in 3 1sts and Portlands's 2nd the next 2 years and that pipeline expands.

Will be interesting to see end of year Mogbo vs how he is now.


BATTLE?
I think he just forgot Battle, who will stay with the big club. He just needs more experience and PT with the Raptors. I think he meant Mogbo going to the 905, which I don't think is needed either. Really Chomche and I guess Carton are the only ones that needs 30mpg with the 905.

Battle is on a 2-way so he can play a max of 50 games (is that correct?). I don't know where he fits in. I'm guessing we dump Brown for a pick and expiring. Then maybe it opens a spot for him.
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Post#51 » by RaptorLakerJay » Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:31 am

Thaddy wrote:
RaptorLakerJay wrote:I'd be interested in seeing Mogbo as backup 5 and Kelly at backup 4 since we all think Kelly is better suited somewhere other than at center.

I don't see a reason to throw him in the fire. He would be best going into the GLeague and working on forward skills. I would keep him long term at the 5 but playing a perimeter role in the minor league will give him transferable skills as a small ball 5.

The bench looks deep right now with Agbaji and Shead contributing but that could quickly change.

Poeltl / Olynyk
Barnes / Agbaji / Boucher
Barrett / Brown
Dick / / Shead
Quickely / Mitchell

It's under sized but if the other team lacks a true center it could work. We should play our best players the most to build trade value.


Personally I think he should stay in the big leagues since he's shown he's capable of playing at the level. I do understand what you say about building trade value though.
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Re: What's your ideal lineup/rotations? 

Post#52 » by Thaddy » Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:43 am

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Thaddy wrote:
RaptorLakerJay wrote:I'd be interested in seeing Mogbo as backup 5 and Kelly at backup 4 since we all think Kelly is better suited somewhere other than at center.

I don't see a reason to throw him in the fire. He would be best going into the GLeague and working on forward skills. I would keep him long term at the 5 but playing a perimeter role in the minor league will give him transferable skills as a small ball 5.

The bench looks deep right now with Agbaji and Shead contributing but that could quickly change.

Poeltl / Olynyk
Barnes / Agbaji / Boucher
Barrett / Brown
Dick / / Shead
Quickely / Mitchell

It's under sized but if the other team lacks a true center it could work. We should play our best players the most to build trade value.


Personally I think he should stay in the big leagues since he's shown he's capable of playing at the level. I do understand what you say about building trade value though.

I don't think he's better than Agbaji, Brown, or Boucher. Who would you play him over?
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Re: What's your ideal lineup/rotations? 

Post#53 » by Kingsway_fan » Mon Oct 28, 2024 10:24 am

Thaddy wrote:
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Kingsway_fan wrote:
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I think he just forgot Battle, who will stay with the big club. He just needs more experience and PT with the Raptors. I think he meant Mogbo going to the 905, which I don't think is needed either. Really Chomche and I guess Carton are the only ones that needs 30mpg with the 905.

Battle is on a 2-way so he can play a max of 50 games (is that correct?). I don't know where he fits in. I'm guessing we dump Brown for a pick and expiring. Then maybe it opens a spot for him.



Yes. I also see them (hopefully) dropping Bruno in January...
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Post#54 » by RaptorLakerJay » Mon Oct 28, 2024 6:47 pm

Thaddy wrote:
RaptorLakerJay wrote:
Thaddy wrote:I don't see a reason to throw him in the fire. He would be best going into the GLeague and working on forward skills. I would keep him long term at the 5 but playing a perimeter role in the minor league will give him transferable skills as a small ball 5.

The bench looks deep right now with Agbaji and Shead contributing but that could quickly change.

Poeltl / Olynyk
Barnes / Agbaji / Boucher
Barrett / Brown
Dick / / Shead
Quickely / Mitchell

It's under sized but if the other team lacks a true center it could work. We should play our best players the most to build trade value.


Personally I think he should stay in the big leagues since he's shown he's capable of playing at the level. I do understand what you say about building trade value though.

I don't think he's better than Agbaji, Brown, or Boucher. Who would you play him over?


It's not that he's better than them, but just because I think he's a better option for the center position and gives better rebounding. I also think he suits their playstyle at that position.

Poeltl / Mogbo
Barnes / Kelly / Boucher
Barrett / Agbaji / Battle
Dick / Brown / Walter
Quickley / Mitchell / Shead
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Post#55 » by agkagk » Mon Oct 28, 2024 7:25 pm

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Thaddy wrote:
RaptorLakerJay wrote:I'd be interested in seeing Mogbo as backup 5 and Kelly at backup 4 since we all think Kelly is better suited somewhere other than at center.

I don't see a reason to throw him in the fire. He would be best going into the GLeague and working on forward skills. I would keep him long term at the 5 but playing a perimeter role in the minor league will give him transferable skills as a small ball 5.

The bench looks deep right now with Agbaji and Shead contributing but that could quickly change.

Poeltl / Olynyk
Barnes / Agbaji / Boucher
Barrett / Brown
Dick / / Shead
Quickely / Mitchell

It's under sized but if the other team lacks a true center it could work. We should play our best players the most to build trade value.


Not to nitpick

Jakobs a true centre

Maybe, more likely your referencing the bench? — they seem tiny!


Starting unit has above average size I would think…?
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Post#56 » by treerollins » Mon Oct 28, 2024 10:24 pm

if ochai keeps hitting from 3 at a respectable rate i think he should be the 5th starter so rj doesn't have to cover the opposing team's best wing. depending on matchup play rj at the 3 and start bruce brown at 2 to cover quicker guys with less size like idk jalen green and donovan mitchell or something. gradey can get heavy minutes as 6th man so he gets some run with the starters and then roll with olynik, mitchell and brown. ideally keep scottie out there with the bench guys when possible to keep the offence respectable. i think they could sub gradey for scottie at 6 min mark, let him play the 2 with iq, poeltl and shift rj and ochai from 2/3 to 3/4 then sit iq/rj/ochai/jak and bring in mitchell, brown, scottie and olynik then close games with whoever has it going on a given night. spot minutes for mogbo, boucher, shead and battle
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Post#57 » by Psubs » Tue Oct 29, 2024 3:54 am

PG IQ - Shead
SG Dick - Ochai
SF Barrett - Brown
PF Barnes - Mogbo
C Poeltl - Olynyk

905: Jakobe, Battle, Chomche, Carton

Mitchell, Boucher, Garrett and Fernando can traded or waived for alll I care.
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Post#58 » by Indeed » Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:48 pm

agkagk wrote:[x][/x]
Thaddy wrote:
RaptorLakerJay wrote:I'd be interested in seeing Mogbo as backup 5 and Kelly at backup 4 since we all think Kelly is better suited somewhere other than at center.

I don't see a reason to throw him in the fire. He would be best going into the GLeague and working on forward skills. I would keep him long term at the 5 but playing a perimeter role in the minor league will give him transferable skills as a small ball 5.

The bench looks deep right now with Agbaji and Shead contributing but that could quickly change.

Poeltl / Olynyk
Barnes / Agbaji / Boucher
Barrett / Brown
Dick / / Shead
Quickely / Mitchell

It's under sized but if the other team lacks a true center it could work. We should play our best players the most to build trade value.


Not to nitpick

Jakobs a true centre

Maybe, more likely your referencing the bench? — they seem tiny!


Starting unit has above average size I would think…?


The above starting unit is below average size

Poeltl isn't that big, below average wingspan, pretty much you see Jokic can score near the rim one on one against Poeltl.
Barrett and Dick are also SG size, particularly the wingspan, as they are not going to guard Tatum or Ingram type of big forwards.

Since our team isn't focus on defense, and we are not expecting to make the playoffs, so I guess that doesn't really matter. In the long term, I think you need Mogbo size to be part of the starting lineup.
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Post#59 » by OakleyDokely » Tue Oct 29, 2024 5:26 pm

Poeltl is over 7ft with a 7'3 wingspan and he weighs 260. Jokic scores on everybody regardless of size because he's a 3x MVP.

Barnes has really good size for his position.

The Raps are just missing a big wing defender, maybe Mogbo can be that guy.
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Post#60 » by Psubs » Tue Oct 29, 2024 5:33 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:Poeltl is over 7ft with a 7'3 wingspan and he weighs 260. Jokic scores on everybody regardless of size because he's a 3x MVP.

Barnes has really good size for his position.

The Raps are just missing a big wing defender, maybe Mogbo can be that guy.


It's easy to see that Mogbo is but they went with the starters instead of putting out their best lineup to hold the 9 pt lead:

Shead, Agbadji, Barrett, Mogbo, Poeltl (since Barnes was out).
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