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metzy255 wrote:Did anyone get a chance to read jsonlines article this morning? Found the title interesting but it’s behind a pay wall. Anyone have a breakdown?
MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:Buckfan76 wrote:BroncoBuck wrote:
Any OKC Giannis trade has to have Chet coming back.
I think if OKC would trade for Giannis I think they would want to create a big 3 of SGA, Chet, and Giannis
even from our end, I don't think we want chet in that scenario. he's only got one more year after this on his rookie deal and might be just good enough to win us games (we would want to be top 4 bad with a chance to keep our pick). in a scenario we are trading Giannis, I'm trading every single access to the highest bidder. also assume management would want to reduce salary asap
paulpressey25 wrote:metzy255 wrote:Did anyone get a chance to read jsonlines article this morning? Found the title interesting but it’s behind a pay wall. Anyone have a breakdown?
Jim O. talks to a league source who tells him the Bucks will have financial flexibility next summer to sign free agents since Brook, Bobby and likely Khris will leave or negotiate more team friendly contracts. They will get under the apron.
Then he talks to Wes Edens who says we got Giannis and Dame so we can figure it out.
Thunder Muscle wrote:paulpressey25 wrote:metzy255 wrote:Did anyone get a chance to read jsonlines article this morning? Found the title interesting but it’s behind a pay wall. Anyone have a breakdown?
Jim O. talks to a league source who tells him the Bucks will have financial flexibility next summer to sign free agents since Brook, Bobby and likely Khris will leave or negotiate more team friendly contracts. They will get under the apron.
Then he talks to Wes Edens who says we got Giannis and Dame so we can figure it out.
Interesting. I just kind of assume that the 3 player option guys would probably opt-in but guess maybe they want longer contracts. But almost 80M could come off the Bucks if Khris (34M), Portis (13.4M), Pat C (9.4M) all opt-out and Lopez’s 23M will be off the books.
Beauchamp, if 4th year option is declined, would free up another 4-5M as well. I think that decision has to be this week.
Sigra wrote:We will NOT trade Giannis (except if he ask for that).
But, just thinking, where would you trade him if you want to help him win another ring? What team would be best fit for him?
Clearly, that team must have C who is good at 3s. Also, it would be best if that team doesn't have classic PG because Giannis wants to be with ball most of the time. And, OfCourse, defenders and shooters as much as posible.
Boston clearly meets all the requirements. Maybe Knicks too except that Brunson wants ball which could be a problem. Thunder could be good choice too IMO
JayMKE wrote:
As for a win-now shape up trade I was thinking about Dame for Jimmy Butler works in the trade checker
Badgerlander wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:ReasonablySober wrote:I think if this is a .500ish team in January anything outside of Giannis will be on the table. Dame, Khris, Brook...everyone.
if we are a .500 team in January Giannis should be on the table. from an owners perspective, this team isn't worth the tax bill. From an operations perspective, we are maxed out and I don't think you can add talent that will make us better in the next 18 months. At that point, you have 2.5 years of Giannis on a contract in his prime. You start calling OKC, Spurs, etc and seeing if you can get the biggest trade package in history. then trade Dame, Brook and Kris for pennies on the dollar.
Nah. I just can't envisioning getting to that point no matter what the team looks like. Like you said, we still have 2.5 years of Giannis at that point and some team will still offer the greatest package in NBA history if we're no closer a year from now.
Obviously the best case scenario is Khris returns and the Bucks start to roll, looking like a legit Finals favorite.
But short of that, the best case would be Khris looking good and Dame continuing to play efficient, explosive scoring basketball, with the downfall being a surrounding cast that's just not good enough. Dame and Khris could bring back legitimate returns, Dame especially. I think Brook would get you something valuable as well.
Tear everything down around Giannis and attempt to reload next summer for one last attempt.
Is their rebounding any better? No, they’re still the worst rebounding team in the league, which, again for these first few weeks, keep in mind the size of the sampling here. Was their bench showing signs of life? No, not particularly.
Mike Brown finally let Keon out of the doghouse for 14 minutes Monday, but with Kevin hitting on all cylinders offensively right now, I think the starting role will be a little harder to yank from his grasp than previously predicted. Huerter is averaging 11 points, 1.7 stocks and shooting 42% from deep to start this season and while he’ll never be a defensive stopper, I think the effort he’s putting out is enough to assuage Coach Brown for the time being. Even when the offense or effort on defense slips a little, Keon’s going to have to really show out in order to change Brown’s mind. I’m not sure Brown even knows why, but… it is what it is.
JayMKE wrote:Reality check for you guys fantasizing about a trade and some crazy bidding war, superstars like Giannis almost always dictate where they want to go and he isn't going to want to be traded to Utah or OKC. Trading Giannis isn't happening unless he demands it and if he does it would probably be New York, LA, Miami like everybody else in history. You trade everybody before Giannis.
As for a win-now shape up trade I was thinking about Dame for Jimmy Butler works in the trade checker, probably could get another asset or two. Jimmy is on the outs in Miami & can opt out this offseason. Fits better on offense & defense, more of a leader/winner, PJ like toughness & accountability, equally as old, got the Marquette connection. Dame can go where he wanted to be all along & score 30ppgz and the Bucks can reestablish tough defensive identity with culture setting Jimmy.
