OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!)

[spree8]

Free thinkers will actually just google it and find the evidence of both sides instead of condescending and pretending it doesn’t exist because it conveniently wasn’t spoon fed to them by their partisan MSM

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/queens-voter-fraud-democratic-primary-2022/

Just keep furthering the divide tho, good strategy.

It’s just so crazy that anybody would think they could speak for the tens of millions of people they’ve never met and say they’re all squeaky clean and not guilty of any wrong doing. Like wtf lol. The tribalism is wild.

Wait. This guy in your link tried to commit fraud in the Democratic primary.

I don't know if that's the same as Republican arsonists burning drop off boxes in Democrat districts.

Either way, any person that commits voter fraud should be punished. I think we can all agree on that.

On another note I dunno if you saw the other day but one side called Puerto Ricans garbage, made Watermelon comments about Black people (on top of saying we eat cats and dogs), and said that Palestinians are taught from the age of 2 to kill Americans.

Who is furthering the divide again?

Both sides are furthering it for so many reasons. A lot of people are being manipulated by their feeds because anger keeps you coming back. Yea, a lot of the stuff said at MSG was wild.. I’m not gunna blame everyone for it tho, just those that said what they said, the same way I don’t blame everyone on the other side for saying or doing bad shyt.

I just don’t get how people can be so confident in speaking up for or against millions upon millions of people they’ve never met and just generalize like this. That’s what furthers the divide. Judge each person on their own actions, don’t extrapolate that across an entire voting base. How is that smart or helping the issues?

You know where I stand with all this shyt. I posted the Gallup polls on Americans trust in media… it’s tanked. Media has ramped up the words racism, racist, etc +750% since Occupy Wall Street. If that’s not a divide and conquer agenda I dunno what is. Politifact explains that away with some bs like “oh that’s because politicians started apologizing more for past racist transgressions”.

I’m sure you’ll call me a conspiracy theorist, and that’s cool, I love all Americans equally because when I look left and right, I see each and every one of us all getting bent over a barrel just the same. It just takes some of us a bit longer to realize who’s doing the fuq’ing.

[HarthorneWingo]

One thing that never gets discussed enough is the impact the election has on Supreme Court appointments. Another 3 will probably retire during the next term.

There's a shot at flipping Ted Cruz and gaining control of the Senate if Tester can hold his seat in Montana. I think the House will go blue. A unified congress and WH would be able to reform this rogue court.

I’m hearing that we can take back the House. We need to get Allred and Tester across the line. If we get all 3, maybe, just maybe, we can get back on track.

Allred is just a few points behind at the two-minute warning.

[HarthorneWingo]

Free thinkers will actually just google it and find the evidence of both sides instead of condescending and pretending it doesn’t exist because it conveniently wasn’t spoon fed to them by their partisan MSM

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/queens-voter-fraud-democratic-primary-2022/

Just keep furthering the divide tho, good strategy.

It’s just so crazy that anybody would think they could speak for the tens of millions of people they’ve never met and say they’re all squeaky clean and not guilty of any wrong doing. Like wtf lol. The tribalism is wild.

Wait. This guy in your link tried to commit fraud in the Democratic primary.

I don't know if that's the same as Republican arsonists burning drop off boxes in Democrat districts.

Either way, any person that commits voter fraud should be punished. I think we can all agree on that.

On another note I dunno if you saw the other day but one side called Puerto Ricans garbage, made Watermelon comments about Black people (on top of saying we eat cats and dogs), and said that Palestinians are taught from the age of 2 to kill Americans.

Who is furthering the divide again?

Both sides are furthering it for so many reasons. A lot of people are being manipulated by their feeds because anger keeps you coming back. Yea, a lot of the stuff said at MSG was wild.. I’m not gunna blame everyone for it tho, just those that said what they said, the same way I don’t blame everyone on the other side for saying or doing bad shyt.

I just don’t get how people can be so confident in speaking up for or against millions upon millions of people they’ve never met and just generalize like this. That’s what furthers the divide. Judge each person on their own actions, don’t extrapolate that across an entire voting base. How is that smart or helping the issues?

You know where I stand with all this shyt. I posted the Gallup polls on Americans trust in media… it’s tanked. Media has ramped up the words racism, racist, etc +750% since Occupy Wall Street. If that’s not a divide and conquer agenda I dunno what is. Politifact explains that away with some bs like “oh that’s because politicians started apologizing more for past racist transgressions”.

I’m sure you’ll call me a conspiracy theorist, and that’s cool, I love all Americans equally because when I look left and right, I see each and every one of us all getting bent over a barrel just the same. It just takes some of us a bit longer to realize who’s doing the fuq’ing.

1. Both sides? Both sides how?

2. All of Hinchcliffe’s jokes were cleared by the Trump campaign prior to the event.

[Fat Kat]

One thing that never gets discussed enough is the impact the election has on Supreme Court appointments. Another 3 will probably retire during the next term.

There's a shot at flipping Ted Cruz and gaining control of the Senate if Tester can hold his seat in Montana. I think the House will go blue. A unified congress and WH would be able to reform this rogue court.

I’m hearing that we can take back the House. We need to get Allred and Tester across the line. If we get all 3, maybe, just maybe, we can get back on track.

Allred is just a few points behind at the two-minute warning.

Did my part and voted for Allred. Texas has a serious voter turnout problem.

[HarthorneWingo]

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[spree8]

Wait. This guy in your link tried to commit fraud in the Democratic primary.

I don't know if that's the same as Republican arsonists burning drop off boxes in Democrat districts.

Either way, any person that commits voter fraud should be punished. I think we can all agree on that.

On another note I dunno if you saw the other day but one side called Puerto Ricans garbage, made Watermelon comments about Black people (on top of saying we eat cats and dogs), and said that Palestinians are taught from the age of 2 to kill Americans.

Who is furthering the divide again?

Both sides are furthering it for so many reasons. A lot of people are being manipulated by their feeds because anger keeps you coming back. Yea, a lot of the stuff said at MSG was wild.. I’m not gunna blame everyone for it tho, just those that said what they said, the same way I don’t blame everyone on the other side for saying or doing bad shyt.

I just don’t get how people can be so confident in speaking up for or against millions upon millions of people they’ve never met and just generalize like this. That’s what furthers the divide. Judge each person on their own actions, don’t extrapolate that across an entire voting base. How is that smart or helping the issues?

You know where I stand with all this shyt. I posted the Gallup polls on Americans trust in media… it’s tanked. Media has ramped up the words racism, racist, etc +750% since Occupy Wall Street. If that’s not a divide and conquer agenda I dunno what is. Politifact explains that away with some bs like “oh that’s because politicians started apologizing more for past racist transgressions”.

I’m sure you’ll call me a conspiracy theorist, and that’s cool, I love all Americans equally because when I look left and right, I see each and every one of us all getting bent over a barrel just the same. It just takes some of us a bit longer to realize who’s doing the fuq’ing.

1. Both sides? Both sides how?

2. All of Hinchcliffe’s jokes were cleared by the Trump campaign.

Are you saying the tens of millions of people on the left literally do nothing at all to further the divide amongst Americans? I’ve already mentioned the generalizing just in this thread alone. Then posted a link of a Dem voter trying to election rig. Go look thru the internet and you’ll find all the evidence you need of people doing all kinds of wild stuff on the left… and the right. There’s a lot of crazy people out there and they’re not all republicans. As far as Trump’s campaign approving jokes, why would I blame every republican citizen in the country for that?

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Both sides

I have to question why MAGAs feel that they need to do illegal things to help Donald Trump win?

I mean, by what MAGAs say, Trump is winning this in a landslide. So why the arson, why the voter fraud?

Never a moment in my life have I felt the urge to commit voter fraud or prevent someone else from voting. Even if I disagree with them, everyone has a right to vote.

Dude there’s just crazy people everywhere. You’ve never done a lot of the shyt that people throughout history have done. Why focus only on voter fraud? People are all kinds of messed up lol. People rob, steal, kill, torture, etc etc etc. it’s a sick world.

I can’t be the only one here with friends, family, acquaintances, associates, etc on both sides. Surely you can attest to the fact that everyone is different and generalizing isn’t ever good or accurate. Not sure why it’s done so much here..

Probably because trying to paint the current political climate in our country as a both sides issue is disingenuous

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Only one side is doing this right now. Only one side is pushing hatred and violence. Only one side tried to sack the f*cking Capitol building on Donald Trump's behalf. Only one side is supporting a rapist and a convicted felon to be re elected.

These dudes held a nazi rally in MSG like 48 hrs ago and you're trying to tell me that both sides are fundamentally the same.

This is the problem with enlightened centrism. It's just someone's way to cover their sympathy towards right wing beliefs irregardless of those beliefs being problematic or not.

[MrDollarBills]

There's a shot at flipping Ted Cruz and gaining control of the Senate if Tester can hold his seat in Montana. I think the House will go blue. A unified congress and WH would be able to reform this rogue court.

I’m hearing that we can take back the House. We need to get Allred and Tester across the line. If we get all 3, maybe, just maybe, we can get back on track.

Allred is just a few points behind at the two-minute warning.

Did my part and voted for Allred. Texas has a serious voter turnout problem.

The early voting numbers for youth, gen z and millennials look bad in Texas. Unfortunately I don't think Allred will win.

[spree8]

I have to question why MAGAs feel that they need to do illegal things to help Donald Trump win?

I mean, by what MAGAs say, Trump is winning this in a landslide. So why the arson, why the voter fraud?

Never a moment in my life have I felt the urge to commit voter fraud or prevent someone else from voting. Even if I disagree with them, everyone has a right to vote.

Dude there’s just crazy people everywhere. You’ve never done a lot of the shyt that people throughout history have done. Why focus only on voter fraud? People are all kinds of messed up lol. People rob, steal, kill, torture, etc etc etc. it’s a sick world.

I can’t be the only one here with friends, family, acquaintances, associates, etc on both sides. Surely you can attest to the fact that everyone is different and generalizing isn’t ever good or accurate. Not sure why it’s done so much here..

Probably because trying to paint the current political climate in our country as a both sides issue is disingenuous

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Only one side is doing this right now. Only one side is pushing hatred and violence. Only one side tried to sack the f*cking Capitol building on Donald Trump's behalf. Only one side is supporting a rapist and a convicted felon to be re elected.

These dudes held a nazi rally in MSG like 48 hrs ago and you're trying to tell me that both sides are fundamentally the same.

This is the problem with enlightened centrism. It's just someone's way to cover their sympathy towards right wing beliefs irregardless of those beliefs being problematic or not.

Holy shyt Why do you love working yourself up to the point of hysteria? This is the kinda stuff I’m talking about. You interpret somebody trying to speak sense into your irrational hatred for people you don’t even know as gaslighting or whatever other label you have for an agenda or ulterior motives. Please enlighten me, since you’re all knowing, what right wing beliefs do I sympathize with exactly? Listen to yourself… it’s basically “if you’re not with me you’re with them”, like wtf lol

And again, just because your MSM didn’t report it to you doesn’t mean it’s not happening. There’s plenty of violence that’s been dealt at the hands of people on the left. How many people’s homes have been vandalized for simply supporting Trump?

Yea he’s dirty AF, and Kamala has dirt on her hands as well, she just ruined people’s lives in a different way. Ask the citizens of Cali. Start with Cheree Peoples… that’s a nice story. Lady was arrested, perp walked, lost her job, lost her home, and spent 2 years fighting for her freedom after passing up a 1 year sentence on a plea deal, all because her daughter with sickle cell was always in the hospital. During this stressful time, her daughter suffered a stroke. Kamala laughed and bragged about this policy. Reasons like this is why I’m not voting for either one

[St Knick]

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Odd, seems a majority of her crowds are repeat attendees. Must be a really fun rally to go to more then once

[HarthorneWingo]

Both sides are furthering it for so many reasons. A lot of people are being manipulated by their feeds because anger keeps you coming back. Yea, a lot of the stuff said at MSG was wild.. I’m not gunna blame everyone for it tho, just those that said what they said, the same way I don’t blame everyone on the other side for saying or doing bad shyt.

I just don’t get how people can be so confident in speaking up for or against millions upon millions of people they’ve never met and just generalize like this. That’s what furthers the divide. Judge each person on their own actions, don’t extrapolate that across an entire voting base. How is that smart or helping the issues?

You know where I stand with all this shyt. I posted the Gallup polls on Americans trust in media… it’s tanked. Media has ramped up the words racism, racist, etc +750% since Occupy Wall Street. If that’s not a divide and conquer agenda I dunno what is. Politifact explains that away with some bs like “oh that’s because politicians started apologizing more for past racist transgressions”.

I’m sure you’ll call me a conspiracy theorist, and that’s cool, I love all Americans equally because when I look left and right, I see each and every one of us all getting bent over a barrel just the same. It just takes some of us a bit longer to realize who’s doing the fuq’ing.

1. Both sides? Both sides how?

2. All of Hinchcliffe’s jokes were cleared by the Trump campaign.

Are you saying the tens of millions of people on the left literally do nothing at all to further the divide amongst Americans? I’ve already mentioned the generalizing just in this thread alone. Then posted a link of a Dem voter trying to election rig. Go look thru the internet and you’ll find all the evidence you need of people doing all kinds of wild stuff on the left… and the right. There’s a lot of crazy people out there and they’re not all republicans. As far as Trump’s campaign approving jokes, why would I blame every republican citizen in the country for that?

Both sides - I haven’t seen any reports of Democrats destroying voting boxes. If you have any evidence, I would love to see it. Post the worst example of what you’re referring to. Please.

Jokes - You said, “I’m not gunna blame everyone for it tho, just those that said what they said.”. And I responded that you have to also blame the Trump administration for approving those jokes. I didn’t say you have to blame all republicans though maybe you can blame all the one in the capacity-filled MSG who LOL’d at them.

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Odd, seems a majority of her crowds are repeat attendees. Must be a really fun rally to go to more then once

Who is this dude you're quoting? He seems like some type of QAnon type of cult person, or at least uses the same type of techniques.

[Clyde_Style]

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Odd, seems a majority of her crowds are repeat attendees. Must be a really fun rally to go to more then once

Cool story bro

Quit ducking the question:

Do you grab women by the pussy without their consent?

[Pointgod]

Part of the reason I’m convinced Trump is fighting an uphill battle. He’s losing support when he’s supposed to be expanding it. Stand back and stand by, true Patriots are about to make Trump go through some things.

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Odd, seems a majority of her crowds are repeat attendees. Must be a really fun rally to go to more then once

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[HarthorneWingo]

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Odd, seems a majority of her crowds are repeat attendees. Must be a really fun rally to go to more then once

Who is this dude you're quoting? He seems like some type of QAnon type of cult person, or at least uses the same type of techniques.

You mean to say that you haven’t heard of Tony Seruga?????????

[HarthorneWingo]

Part of the reason I’m convinced Trump is fighting an uphill battle. He’s losing support when he’s supposed to be expanding it. Stand back and stand by, true Patriots are about to make Trump go through some things.

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He’s losing his huge gain in a couple of demographics as I understand it. Like, for example, white working class men. Trump still leads in that class but even a loss of 5-10% is a very large number of voters that can make the difference in a tight race. I guess this is why the Harris campaign, while they’ve made some mistakes, targeted moderate republicans and independents. They must know that angry based lefties/progressives like me won’t stomach another Trump term. I hope it works.

[Pointgod]

Look at these numbers and explain to me like I’m 5 how Harris loses Nevada or Arizona but the Senate candidate wins by double digits? The polls are definitely missing something.

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[Clyde_Style]

Part of the reason I’m convinced Trump is fighting an uphill battle. He’s losing support when he’s supposed to be expanding it. Stand back and stand by, true Patriots are about to make Trump go through some things.

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The desperation of Trump supporters and the GOP in general has been evident in their insistence that Trump has gained support in the black community. In reality, it appears the only demographic he may have picked up support in is the illiterate TikTok Bros voting their first time. Otherwise, Trump has had major erosion in support since 2020 in so many key demographics, but particularly women voters and over 65 voters which is the majority of the voting pool now.

Meanwhile, Harris has mostly made inroad on demographics vs. the support Biden had in 2020.

It is not likely Trump can get more votes than 2020, but it is quite probable Harris will get more votes than Biden did.

Therefore, I expect the margin of the popular vote to be bigger in Harris' favor, but because of the electoral college we're still going to be holding our breath until the votes are counted.

[Clyde_Style]

Look at these numbers and explain to me like I’m 5 how Harris loses Nevada or Arizona but the Senate candidate wins by double digits? The polls are definitely missing something.

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While I think you're probably correct, there are numerous down ticket races where a candidate is either popular despite the state's party lean (Tester) or there are candidates who may be unpopular even though their party is the more dominant party in their state (Cruz or Rick Scott).

For example, Kari Lake is a certified nutjob which helps Gallego immensely in a state that may be tighter for Harris. A fair amount of Republicans in AZ probably rightfully see Lake as a joke of a candidate.