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OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!)

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Who are you voting?

Poll ended at Thu Nov 7, 2024 8:05 pm

Dr. Jill Stein
3
5%
Dr. Cornel West
1
2%
Chase Oliver
0
No votes
Claudia De la Cruz
0
No votes
Kamala Harris
35
56%
Donald J. Trump
14
22%
Writing myself in
2
3%
Not voting
6
10%
Other
2
3%
 
Total votes: 63

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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#461 » by St Knick » Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:09 am

Clyde_Style wrote:The next time someone tells you to simmer down because you're stating the truth about hate rallies held by Nazis just flip them the bird because that's what they deserve. We don't need to be told we're overreacting to a Nazi rally. Enough with the let's be nice BS. When people try to run cover for Nazis they can F off.


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Overreacting & exaggerating!
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#462 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:10 am

Meet Steve! Steve is a former cop and former Republican. He’s an honest guy and a straight shooter.

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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#463 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:14 am

During the MSG Nazi Rally, Orange Blob spoke about a “secret” he shared with House Speaker Mike Johnson (I love that name. Is his cousin named Dick Hurtz or Mike Hint?). Well, this secret is revealed by author/journalist David Cay Johnston who has written more about Donald Trump than anyone and it’s just as juvenile S you should/would expect from these imbeciles.

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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#464 » by ScienceOfLosing » Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:32 am

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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#465 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:02 am

ScienceOfLosing wrote:Never Forget we are all Americans.

Fixed it for ya!

Btw, that was a disaffected republican who shot at Trump. Don’t be pulling that chit with “Never Forget” BS. That’s a no-no.
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#466 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:10 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
You've got a bigger problem because stupidity like yours can't be cured with a therapy session.


Just stop with the personal insults. They have no part here.


I'll say what I want how I want to say it Wingo. Just like you would tell me. I didn't tell you not to be angry about Palestine because you have every right to feel however you do. All we can do is appeal to the greater issues when individual ones pull us apart. However, this guy is leaning hard into the obscuration of legit concerns about fascism. They are not appealing to our decency. They are working overtime to sweep meaningful distinctions under the rug which is standard issue right wing malarkey that neuters the ability to speak the truth about evil. You've spent your time addressing what you perceive as evils and I did not try to muzzle you. But this guy wants people to simmer down because they really want us to blur the lines completely which is rubbish. So, no, I'll call that BS out my way.


Maybe you need a time out.

You’re the reason these threads get locked because YOU can’t control your emotions. Everyone here knows you as the dude who hurls personal insults at people when he gets frustrated. I just hope that if you make things bad enough here that the mods suspend you from the thread rather than locking it up. The rest of us can go on about having our debates. You do this every fcking time. And it doesn’t matter even if you’re right.
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#467 » by Iamphilhughes » Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:29 am

Clyde_Style wrote:The next time someone tells you to simmer down because you're stating the truth about hate rallies held by Nazis just flip them the bird because that's what they deserve. We don't need to be told we're overreacting to a Nazi rally. Enough with the let's be nice BS. When people try to run cover for Nazis they can F off.


Politics aside, I hope you get the help you need. I’ve been following this thread and it’s clear you need to seek professional guidance. Please don’t take this the wrong way. Your language and insults are quite extreme. Please see Wingo & how others behave compared to yours.


Feel free to PM me if you need any mental health resources or need someone to vent/talk to.
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#468 » by Kampuchea » Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:35 am

Clyde, please stop with the personal insults. Get your emotions in check.
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#469 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:53 am

spree8 wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
spree8 wrote:

Dude, seriously, you got problems bigger than politics that’s all I’m gunna say :lol:


You've got a bigger problem because stupidity like yours can't be cured with a therapy session.



Clyde, you’re gunna stroke the fuq out here, I’m telling you. Your 24/7 freak out is massively unhealthy. You’re the angriest poster on the whole damn board man. How the hell you live like this? You and DollarBills gotta take a vaca I swear lol


I'm actually good man, let's clear the air. All I said to you was that your both siderism opinion is disingenuous and only helps run cover for the far right extremism coming from MAGA. Just because you have friends/family that are MAGA doesn't make your opinion any less disingenuous.

Frankly, all you're doing is chastising people for not accepting the horrible behavior coming from these folks. I'm free to disagree with you on that. I find their racist behavior and violent rhetoric unacceptable, dangerous, and appalling, and i refuse to rationalize it or normalize any of it. That's not a personal attack against you as a person, but your opinions on the matter.

Sorry if you think me saying that is me coming at you sideways, but if you're gonna equate the side that is saying dehumanizing racist sh*t like Black ppl eats cats and dogs, Puerto Ricans are garbage hyper breeders, Palestinians are trained to shoot Americans at 2 years old, questioning people's racial purity, wants to strip women's rights, round people up to throw them in camps/mass deportations, or is propping up a convicted felon and rapist for President to the side that isn't doing any of this, the only people that benefit from that kind of opinion are the people who are pushing literal nazism in the USA.
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#470 » by Fury » Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:59 am

spree8 wrote:Free thinkers will actually just google it and find the evidence of both sides instead of condescending and pretending it doesn’t exist because it conveniently wasn’t spoon fed to them by their partisan MSM

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/queens-voter-fraud-democratic-primary-2022/

Just keep furthering the divide tho, good strategy.

It’s just so crazy that anybody would think they could speak for the tens of millions of people they’ve never met and say they’re all squeaky clean and not guilty of any wrong doing. Like wtf lol. The tribalism is wild.


Hey free thinker, do you know what a primary is?
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#471 » by St Knick » Wed Oct 30, 2024 11:27 am

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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#472 » by ScienceOfLosing » Wed Oct 30, 2024 11:53 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
ScienceOfLosing wrote:Never Forget we are all Americans.

Fixed it for ya!

Btw, that was a disaffected republican who shot at Trump. Don’t be pulling that chit with “Never Forget” BS. That’s a no-no.


We are all Americans, so then why bring up Thomas Crooks, who was a multi time Democratic supporter?
He got violent after becoming a democrat. Sound familiar? Remember those mostly peaceful riots? We do.
And the second blue haired guy? Guess which party. :wink:

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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#473 » by spree8 » Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:01 pm

Fury wrote:
spree8 wrote:Free thinkers will actually just google it and find the evidence of both sides instead of condescending and pretending it doesn’t exist because it conveniently wasn’t spoon fed to them by their partisan MSM

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/queens-voter-fraud-democratic-primary-2022/

Just keep furthering the divide tho, good strategy.

It’s just so crazy that anybody would think they could speak for the tens of millions of people they’ve never met and say they’re all squeaky clean and not guilty of any wrong doing. Like wtf lol. The tribalism is wild.


Hey free thinker, do you know what a primary is?



Of course.. what’s that gotta do with showing that people on the left aren’t above committing election fraud in general?
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#474 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:05 pm

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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#475 » by Fury » Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:45 pm

spree8 wrote:
Fury wrote:
spree8 wrote:Free thinkers will actually just google it and find the evidence of both sides instead of condescending and pretending it doesn’t exist because it conveniently wasn’t spoon fed to them by their partisan MSM

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/queens-voter-fraud-democratic-primary-2022/

Just keep furthering the divide tho, good strategy.

It’s just so crazy that anybody would think they could speak for the tens of millions of people they’ve never met and say they’re all squeaky clean and not guilty of any wrong doing. Like wtf lol. The tribalism is wild.


Hey free thinker, do you know what a primary is?



Of course.. what’s that gotta do with showing that people on the left aren’t above committing election fraud in general?


I don't think "the left" (which is a **** joke cause this country is nowhere near left) is above committing election fraud. Lets take things into context. Which "side" is saying that there's rampant voting fraud? So when voting fraud is coming from that "side," it's kind of funny and ironic, especially when it happens consistently, therefore it's mentioned.

It has nothing to do with MSM (another joke, because these media companies are owned by dudes who vote for Trump). And it's also funny that you're all about being "down the middle," yet refer to the "partisan MSM," in a manner that republicans would refer to it. So please, save me the bad faith arguments.
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#476 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:48 pm

St Knick wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:The next time someone tells you to simmer down because you're stating the truth about hate rallies held by Nazis just flip them the bird because that's what they deserve. We don't need to be told we're overreacting to a Nazi rally. Enough with the let's be nice BS. When people try to run cover for Nazis they can F off.


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Overreacting & exaggerating!


Looks like you're afraid to answer this question:

Do you grab women by the pussy without their consent?
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#477 » by St Knick » Wed Oct 30, 2024 1:02 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
St Knick wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:The next time someone tells you to simmer down because you're stating the truth about hate rallies held by Nazis just flip them the bird because that's what they deserve. We don't need to be told we're overreacting to a Nazi rally. Enough with the let's be nice BS. When people try to run cover for Nazis they can F off.


In Frazier’s voice:

Overreacting & exaggerating!


Looks like you're afraid to answer this question:

Do you grab women by the pussy without their consent?


Why are you so obsessed with my sexual history? It's really weird dude.
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#478 » by spree8 » Wed Oct 30, 2024 1:17 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
spree8 wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
You've got a bigger problem because stupidity like yours can't be cured with a therapy session.



Clyde, you’re gunna stroke the fuq out here, I’m telling you. Your 24/7 freak out is massively unhealthy. You’re the angriest poster on the whole damn board man. How the hell you live like this? You and DollarBills gotta take a vaca I swear lol


I'm actually good man, let's clear the air. All I said to you was that your both siderism opinion is disingenuous and only helps run cover for the far right extremism coming from MAGA. Just because you have friends/family that are MAGA doesn't make your opinion any less disingenuous.

Frankly, all you're doing is chastising people for not accepting the horrible behavior coming from these folks. I'm free to disagree with you on that. I find their racist behavior and violent rhetoric unacceptable, dangerous, and appalling, and i refuse to rationalize it or normalize any of it. That's not a personal attack against you as a person, but your opinions on the matter.

Sorry if you think me saying that is me coming at you sideways, but if you're gonna equate the side that is saying dehumanizing racist sh*t like Black ppl eats cats and dogs, Puerto Ricans are garbage hyper breeders, Palestinians are trained to shoot Americans at 2 years old, questioning people's racial purity, wants to strip women's rights, round people up to throw them in camps/mass deportations, or is propping up a convicted felon and rapist for President to the side that isn't doing any of this, the only people that benefit from that kind of opinion are the people who are pushing literal nazism in the USA.




I get you, are you getting my point tho? The generalizing is the issue. You don’t believe all republican voters=racist nazi’s right?

How could you consider black/latino/asian/mixed race people who are voting for Trump, nazi’s? That’s why I’m saying, the people doing the things you don’t like, direct your anger at them instead of saying all republicans are doing that. Stereotyping republican voters like that is pushing Americans apart is all. Same goes for the other side. Not all democrats are communists or support totalitarianism.

I know people feel that supporting Trump means these voters are guilty by association, but how does that make any sense? That would mean everyone who’s ever voted is guilty of supporting all the crimes committed by every politician. That’s why I’m saying, once you realize you can’t use the nazi card on every one of these voters, maybe try to understand why they’re voting for him.

The people I know have a lot of reasons and none of them are because they’re racist because most are black/latino/asian/mixed race. People have told me they’re more offended by some of the racist policies proposed by Kamala like giving black men free crypto and legalizing weed, and Obama condescending and calling them misogynists. Or by her record of throwing innocent black/latino men in jail. They look at things like Trump and Kushner getting together with Van Jones to pass prison reform instead of a stupid comedian who probably never met Trump making racist jokes. A lot of people are just not buying in to the identity politics and have real every day problems with food and rent, and they’re not dealing with racism unless they turn on the tv.

Most just don’t buy in to the same belief as you about nazi’s taking over because they’ve already seen 4 years of Trump (I agree), and believe his economic and foreign policy will put money in their pockets, food on the table, a roof over their head and the instability around the world to an end. Do I agree with all that? Not necessarily, I don’t have all the answers tho, so I’m not gunna pretend to be an expert in all matters, but even if I was and knew they were wrong, I wouldn’t belittle them over it.

The democrat voters I know have all the same concerns but just believe their side will be able to fix the problems. Not many buy in to all the chaos going on either and don’t experience any of it unless they’re on social media. And when people I know with different views get together and politics comes up, it’s not some wild royal rumble… people can discuss differences without the irrational hate towards one another.
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#479 » by DOT » Wed Oct 30, 2024 1:24 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Also, I believe that there are approximately 10-12 states that have changed their state election laws so that the winner of the national vote across the country will determine which candidate will win that state’s electors.


This should be the law of the land. One person, one vote. Your vote shouldn't count more or less because of where you live.

What Wingo is talking about is the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, or NPVIC

As of right now, there are 17 states (plus DC) which have adopted the compact, comprising 209 total EV. There is pending legislation in 4 further states, comprising 50 total EV, so even if all were to adopt it, it would still be 11 EV short

However, he is incorrect in that those states have changed their laws. The NPVIC does not go into effect until they reach 270 EV in the states which have adopted it. So for right now, all states are still going by state vote, but the moment 270 EV of states adopt the NPVIC, those 270 will go to the popular vote winner.
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#480 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Oct 30, 2024 1:27 pm

St Knick wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
St Knick wrote:
In Frazier’s voice:

Overreacting & exaggerating!


Looks like you're afraid to answer this question:

Do you grab women by the pussy without their consent?


Why are you so obsessed with my sexual history? It's really weird dude.


Why are you obsessed with a man who confessed to grabbing women by the pussy without their permission?

That's super weird

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