PG: Cavs vs. Knicks: Only 8FGA for KAT?

[KnixinSix]

Damn, once Divo got traded he became this mythical shot creator and once Bridges became a Knick he's this mega stiff who doesn't create. Interesting.

You're watching it in real time. Phx Mikal Bridges wasn't some stepback three shooter. DDV always was.

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I'll take Bridges 3 point shooting plus his ability to actually make mid range jumpers and layups, something Divo struggled with.

Of course, ideally, Mitch would have been in the trade instead of Divo, but he's always hurt so nobody wants Mitch.

Ironically we may need Mitch more than Divo.

[Chanel Bomber]

Board has been eerily peaceful the past 24 hours.

Folks just respectfully discussing differing basketball opinions after a loss.

I can get used to this.

You haven't been any better. You like to inflame the discussions about Randle, just as you did over RJ. You just think it's fine when you do it because you believe you're right.

[Iron Mantis]

Board has been eerily peaceful the past 24 hours.

Folks just respectfully discussing differing basketball opinions after a loss.

I can get used to this.

You haven't been any better. You like to inflame the discussions about Randle, just as you did over RJ. You just think it's fine when you do it because you believe you're right.

Stop

I'm not going there with you so you might as well just drop it right there.

The board has been calm. It is what it is.

If you want to talk basketball with me we can talk that.

What do you think Thibs will do to fix the offense?

[god shammgod]

you know, sometimes people have personal things going on. i promise you, i don't care much about the knicks or kat or mitch or this place or anything like that right now whatsoever. not that i ever really do the way you think. i wouldn't even bother explaining but people talk about me when i'm not here. i don't know what happened with melo, i didn't read enough. i hope he wasn't banned. a lot of you take this place way too seriously man. it aint that important. just have fun here and use it like that. that's all it really is for. anyway, i'll be around. y'all be good.

[Chanel Bomber]

you know, sometimes people have personal things going on. i promise you, i don't care much about the knicks or kat or mitch or this place or anything like that right now whatsoever. not that i ever really do the way you think. i wouldn't even bother explaining but people talk about me when i'm not here. i don't know what happened with melo, i didn't read enough. i hope he wasn't banned. a lot of you take this place way too seriously man. it aint that important. just have fun here and use it like that. that's all it really is for. anyway, i'll be around. y'all be good.

You too man, I wish you well if you're going through difficult times or just particularly busy.

[RHODEY]

You're watching it in real time. Phx Mikal Bridges wasn't some stepback three shooter. DDV always was.

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I'll take Bridges 3 point shooting plus his ability to actually make mid range jumpers and layups, something Divo struggled with.

Of course, ideally, Mitch would have been in the trade instead of Divo, but he's always hurt so nobody wants Mitch.

Ironically we may need Mitch more than Divo.

imo there's no question.

[Reign23]

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this is just nuts.

[Maury2423]

Payne was not a bad signing but we are using him terribly imo.

He’s not a regular rotation player, he’s the type of player you have on your team that will keep practice competitive and you can bring off the bench when the regular rotation players are playing with low energy and you’re down.

When you bring him into the game, his erratic play can only help your team in this situation. His high energy gambling defense and potential wild shot making can spark a comeback, and if he’s not making his shots then it can’t hurt you because you’re already losing.


You can’t have Payne consistently come off the bench and expect the same player game after game. He can’t lead a team consistently off the bench and that’s exactly what a team needs coming off the bench, especially as a backup PG.

And I don’t think Kolek is the answer to this either, he needs to spend time in Westchester and get some reps in. I do think he’ll get there but the end of the year but he’s not there yet.

[FrozenEnvelope]

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this is just nuts.

That's on Thibs, KAT and Brunson in that order. Thibs needs to draw up some plays and scenarios where KAT gets shot in his sweet spots, Brunson needs to run those plays and KAT himself needs to be aggressive and demand the ball. I saw too much coasting from KAT against the Cavs. Like he was content to be a spectator. He was brought here to be the star that he is. Even if he takes some forced shots, he needs to shoot them!

I'd give him more pick and pops, post up's and high post where Hartenstein used to operate. KAT is an underrated passer.

[FrozenEnvelope]

Payne was not a bad signing but we are using him terribly imo.

He’s not a regular rotation player, he’s the type of player you have on your team that will keep practice competitive and you can bring off the bench when the regular rotation players are playing with low energy and you’re down.

When you bring him into the game, his erratic play can only help your team in this situation. His high energy gambling defense and potential wild shot making can spark a comeback, and if he’s not making his shots then it can’t hurt you because you’re already losing.


You can’t have Payne consistently come off the bench and expect the same player game after game. He can’t lead a team consistently off the bench and that’s exactly what a team needs coming off the bench, especially as a backup PG.

And I don’t think Kolek is the answer to this either, he needs to spend time in Westchester and get some reps in. I do think he’ll get there but the end of the year but he’s not there yet.

We need scoring off the bench so I bet Thibs has given Payne the green light. I haven't been too crazy with his shot selection but most of them have been decent looks. I've loved his effort on defend though! He reminds me of Greg Anthony, who also used to get trigger happy and that would piss off Ewing.

[RHODEY]

Payne was not a bad signing but we are using him terribly imo.

He’s not a regular rotation player, he’s the type of player you have on your team that will keep practice competitive and you can bring off the bench when the regular rotation players are playing with low energy and you’re down.

When you bring him into the game, his erratic play can only help your team in this situation. His high energy gambling defense and potential wild shot making can spark a comeback, and if he’s not making his shots then it can’t hurt you because you’re already losing.


You can’t have Payne consistently come off the bench and expect the same player game after game. He can’t lead a team consistently off the bench and that’s exactly what a team needs coming off the bench, especially as a backup PG.

And I don’t think Kolek is the answer to this either, he needs to spend time in Westchester and get some reps in. I do think he’ll get there but the end of the year but he’s not there yet.

Agreed can helps you and hurts you. He helps with his aggression, keeping the defense on its heels...and he' s got some clutch xfactor going on with timely big shots but....

The decision making is very spotty and thats where he hurts us.

[KnixinSix]

I'll take Bridges 3 point shooting plus his ability to actually make mid range jumpers and layups, something Divo struggled with.

Of course, ideally, Mitch would have been in the trade instead of Divo, but he's always hurt so nobody wants Mitch.

Ironically we may need Mitch more than Divo.

imo there's no question.

Achiuwa helps in this regard too. This team is very much under construction. Impatient fans and some social media influencers will not want to hear this but it may be a bumpy ride the first 20- 25 games or so.

[RHODEY]

Ironically we may need Mitch more than Divo.

imo there's no question.

Achiuwa helps in this regard too. This team is very much under construction. Impatient fans and some social media influencers will not want to hear this but it may be a bumpy ride the first 20- 25 games or so.

Yeah..but maybe we adjust quicker.

[CometGM]

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this is just nuts.

That's on Thibs, KAT and Brunson in that order. Thibs needs to draw up some plays and scenarios where KAT gets shot in his sweet spots, Brunson needs to run those plays and KAT himself needs to be aggressive and demand the ball. I saw too much coasting from KAT against the Cavs. Like he was content to be a spectator. He was brought here to be the star that he is. Even if he takes some forced shots, he needs to shoot them!

I'd give him more pick and pops, post up's and high post where Hartenstein used to operate. KAT is an underrated passer.

I would say it's on Thibs > Brunson/team > KAT. KAT gets some leeway because he naturally doesn't want to step on any toes, and given that it's only his 3rd game with the team, it's on Thibs and his teammates to let him know he is a focal point.

Plays like this should never happen:

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Hart should've passed that ASAP. The scoring hierarchy on this team needs to be established and fast. You see KAT open, you don't hesitate to get him the ball.

[JayTWill]

It's hard for me to complain about Payne when he is doing exactly what every other on-ball guard has done in Thibs' offense has done before him to varying levels of success. I can't expect him to run a half court offense when I don't even know what the half court offense is other than getting the ball to someone and hoping that they can make something happen.

Burks was brought back in to play that role off the bench last season when Deuce wasn't forcing up shots. IQ had the role before him. Rose before him. If Deuce remains on bench I expect him to continue to develop as another small scoring guard that calls his own number more and more unless Thibs evolves his offense.

[Iron Mantis]

this is just nuts.

That's on Thibs, KAT and Brunson in that order. Thibs needs to draw up some plays and scenarios where KAT gets shot in his sweet spots, Brunson needs to run those plays and KAT himself needs to be aggressive and demand the ball. I saw too much coasting from KAT against the Cavs. Like he was content to be a spectator. He was brought here to be the star that he is. Even if he takes some forced shots, he needs to shoot them!

I'd give him more pick and pops, post up's and high post where Hartenstein used to operate. KAT is an underrated passer.

I would say it's on Thibs > Brunson/team > KAT. KAT gets some leeway because he naturally doesn't want to step on any toes, and given that it's only his 3rd game with the team, it's on Thibs and his teammates to let him know he is a focal point.

Plays like this should never happen:

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Hart should've passed that ASAP. The scoring hierarchy on this team needs to be established and fast. You see KAT open, you don't hesitate to get him the ball.

It seems they think he's just a decoy.

Looking off a wide open 40% 3pt shooter is unacceptable...

I suppose we can chalk it up to them not being used to playing with a center who can shoot, so they will need some time.

But still, shouldn't getting KAT 3pt looks be a point of emphasis in practice, etc? They should practically be force feeding him 3pt shots

[mpharris36]

you know, sometimes people have personal things going on. i promise you, i don't care much about the knicks or kat or mitch or this place or anything like that right now whatsoever. not that i ever really do the way you think. i wouldn't even bother explaining but people talk about me when i'm not here. i don't know what happened with melo, i didn't read enough. i hope he wasn't banned. a lot of you take this place way too seriously man. it aint that important. just have fun here and use it like that. that's all it really is for. anyway, i'll be around. y'all be good.

hope all is well man, in the grand scheme of things this board is peanuts compared to real life.

We do spend a lot of time here and have built relationships sometimes longer than some IRL relationships. We have been on here for a long time. So truly hope everything is alright with ya.

[Capn'O]

this is just nuts.

That's on Thibs, KAT and Brunson in that order. Thibs needs to draw up some plays and scenarios where KAT gets shot in his sweet spots, Brunson needs to run those plays and KAT himself needs to be aggressive and demand the ball. I saw too much coasting from KAT against the Cavs. Like he was content to be a spectator. He was brought here to be the star that he is. Even if he takes some forced shots, he needs to shoot them!

I'd give him more pick and pops, post up's and high post where Hartenstein used to operate. KAT is an underrated passer.

I would say it's on Thibs > Brunson/team > KAT. KAT gets some leeway because he naturally doesn't want to step on any toes, and given that it's only his 3rd game with the team, it's on Thibs and his teammates to let him know he is a focal point.

Plays like this should never happen:

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Hart should've passed that ASAP. The scoring hierarchy on this team needs to be established and fast. You see KAT open, you don't hesitate to get him the ball.

I remember that play. We don't swing the ball around the horn very well yet and we're gonna have to.

[mpharris36]

If we truly want to funnel more shots to our scorers with the second unit Kolek should play over Cam Payne.

That is on Thibs and that would be a way to get more shots then Payne going rogue.

[KnixinSix]

That's on Thibs, KAT and Brunson in that order. Thibs needs to draw up some plays and scenarios where KAT gets shot in his sweet spots, Brunson needs to run those plays and KAT himself needs to be aggressive and demand the ball. I saw too much coasting from KAT against the Cavs. Like he was content to be a spectator. He was brought here to be the star that he is. Even if he takes some forced shots, he needs to shoot them!

I'd give him more pick and pops, post up's and high post where Hartenstein used to operate. KAT is an underrated passer.

I would say it's on Thibs > Brunson/team > KAT. KAT gets some leeway because he naturally doesn't want to step on any toes, and given that it's only his 3rd game with the team, it's on Thibs and his teammates to let him know he is a focal point.

Plays like this should never happen:

Read on Twitter

Hart should've passed that ASAP. The scoring hierarchy on this team needs to be established and fast. You see KAT open, you don't hesitate to get him the ball.

I remember that play. We don't swing the ball around the horn very well yet and we're gonna have to.

These are high level coaches along with high BB IQ players on the squad (for the most part). The chemistry needs to develop and adjustments to the system by the coaches as they learn what works best.

It should come but it will take time.