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Re: what about Finch's rotation? 

Post#21 » by wolves_89 » Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:49 am

I've been thinking about how to improve the Randle/Naz minutes on defense and the guy who has the best skill set to cover up some of the issues might be Minott. Josh is probably our second best rim protector (2nd/3rd close between him and Jaden) and he is likely the best out of zone rebounder on the team. Both those skills are desperately needed during the Julius/Naz minutes.
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Re: what about Finch's rotation? 

Post#22 » by minimus » Wed Oct 30, 2024 7:31 am

wolves_89 wrote:I've been thinking about how to improve the Randle/Naz minutes on defense and the guy who has the best skill set to cover up some of the issues might be Minott. Josh is probably our second best rim protector (2nd/3rd close between him and Jaden) and he is likely the best out of zone rebounder on the team. Both those skills are desperately needed during the Julius/Naz minutes.

Josh should be sitting next to Joe everytime, asking and getting knowledge about how to play pick-n-roll, how to manipulate defense and read situation. Minott might get this job by the end of this season.
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Re: what about Finch's rotation? 

Post#23 » by TwolvesFanRome » Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:07 am

According to me he must give some minutes to Dillingham and Minott.
I understand that he wants, as soon as possibile, increase the chemistry but they need to play.
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Re: what about Finch's rotation? 

Post#24 » by guest81 » Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:31 pm

wolves_89 wrote:I've been thinking about how to improve the Randle/Naz minutes on defense and the guy who has the best skill set to cover up some of the issues might be Minott. Josh is probably our second best rim protector (2nd/3rd close between him and Jaden) and he is likely the best out of zone rebounder on the team. Both those skills are desperately needed during the Julius/Naz minutes.


Minott is our second best rim protector based on what?
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Re: what about Finch's rotation? 

Post#25 » by Colbinii » Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:41 pm

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wolves_89 wrote:I've been thinking about how to improve the Randle/Naz minutes on defense and the guy who has the best skill set to cover up some of the issues might be Minott. Josh is probably our second best rim protector (2nd/3rd close between him and Jaden) and he is likely the best out of zone rebounder on the team. Both those skills are desperately needed during the Julius/Naz minutes.


Minott is our second best rim protector based on what?


Based on his potential when he was drafted 2.5 years ago
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Re: what about Finch's rotation? 

Post#26 » by guest81 » Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:18 pm

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wolves_89 wrote:I've been thinking about how to improve the Randle/Naz minutes on defense and the guy who has the best skill set to cover up some of the issues might be Minott. Josh is probably our second best rim protector (2nd/3rd close between him and Jaden) and he is likely the best out of zone rebounder on the team. Both those skills are desperately needed during the Julius/Naz minutes.


Minott is our second best rim protector based on what?


Based on his potential when he was drafted 2.5 years ago


That means less than zero
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Re: what about Finch's rotation? 

Post#27 » by Colbinii » Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:30 pm

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Minott is our second best rim protector based on what?


Based on his potential when he was drafted 2.5 years ago


That means less than zero


Exactly. I am in agreement with you 8-)
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Re: what about Finch's rotation? 

Post#28 » by minimus » Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:46 pm

I think shot blocking is overrated. I'd rather have a guy who boxes out, fight for 50/50 balls and get back in transition than someone who averages 2+ blocks or 2+ steals. Can Minott be this guy? I am not sure, but I hope he will be become this hard worker, glue guy by the end of the season
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Post#29 » by wolves_89 » Wed Oct 30, 2024 6:10 pm

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wolves_89 wrote:I've been thinking about how to improve the Randle/Naz minutes on defense and the guy who has the best skill set to cover up some of the issues might be Minott. Josh is probably our second best rim protector (2nd/3rd close between him and Jaden) and he is likely the best out of zone rebounder on the team. Both those skills are desperately needed during the Julius/Naz minutes.


Minott is our second best rim protector based on what?


Based on watching Josh in the G-League, Summer League, and preseason. His weak side help defense regularly alters shots in the paint, far more than most anybody else on the roster other than Rudy. It would be nice if at any of the Wolves bigs other than Rudy could protect the rim, but that just isn't the case.
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Post#30 » by guest81 » Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:33 pm

wolves_89 wrote:
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wolves_89 wrote:I've been thinking about how to improve the Randle/Naz minutes on defense and the guy who has the best skill set to cover up some of the issues might be Minott. Josh is probably our second best rim protector (2nd/3rd close between him and Jaden) and he is likely the best out of zone rebounder on the team. Both those skills are desperately needed during the Julius/Naz minutes.


Minott is our second best rim protector based on what?


Based on watching Josh in the G-League, Summer League, and preseason. His weak side help defense regularly alters shots in the paint, far more than most anybody else on the roster other than Rudy. It would be nice if at any of the Wolves bigs other than Rudy could protect the rim, but that just isn't the case.


You realize there's a major difference in quality in g league compared to nba? Do you know how good of rim protector ant could be in the g league?
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Re: what about Finch's rotation? 

Post#31 » by Klomp » Thu Oct 31, 2024 6:11 pm

I wonder if it's a matter of time before there is a change to the starting lineup, with either DiVincenzo or Alexander-Walker replacing Conley. I think normally it would be DiVincenzo getting the nod and was actually the reason behind making this comment, but I think his slow shooting start might slow that push for DiVincenzo, while also pairing DiVincenzo with Conley more off the bench could allow him to get his shot off more naturally.
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Re: what about Finch's rotation? 

Post#32 » by LSWF » Sun Nov 3, 2024 5:29 am

Six games in, and this team is not exactly gelling. Conley and Ingles are looking washed. Jaden is playing poorly. Will Finch start holding players accountable? IMHO, this current rotation is not going to make any noise in the west. I would like to see RD, TSJ and Minott getting more than just garbage time minutes. If none of these young guys are rotation worthy this season we are going to need some changes at the deadline, and I think it's better to find out early.
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Re: what about Finch's rotation? 

Post#33 » by TwolvesFanRome » Sun Nov 3, 2024 7:11 am

Ok. I don't know about you but I'm starting to get annoyed by Finch's rotations.
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Re: what about Finch's rotation? 

Post#34 » by Neeva » Sun Nov 3, 2024 7:16 am

TwolvesFanRome wrote:Ok. I don't know about you but I'm starting to get annoyed by Finch's rotations.

Everyone is, everyone can see Conley looks old , and close to washed and still zero minutes for Rob.
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Re: what about Finch's rotation? 

Post#35 » by FrenchMinnyFan » Sun Nov 3, 2024 8:45 am

Rob won't be the savior. just a unrealistic dream if people believe that. But making Randle and NAZ better in defense is mandatory at that stage.
DDV has to shoot better but it will come.
I agree on one thing, we should try DDV Or NAW as a starter a long as Mike poor shooting continue. And give some min to RD. 4 to 6 each game won't hurt and he cannot play worst than current Mike.
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Re: what about Finch's rotation? 

Post#36 » by Nick K » Sun Nov 3, 2024 5:45 pm

LSWF wrote:Six games in, and this team is not exactly gelling. Conley and Ingles are looking washed. Jaden is playing poorly. Will Finch start holding players accountable? IMHO, this current rotation is not going to make any noise in the west. I would like to see RD, TSJ and Minott getting more than just garbage time minutes. If none of these young guys are rotation worthy this season we are going to need some changes at the deadline, and I think it's better to find out early.


I love Finch but he is very stubborn to change when ho has his mind made up. Right now he is determined to get this starting 8 to gell together. It has a long way to go. I, personally would sit a guy or two for a game to send a message but Finch probably won't.
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Re: what about Finch's rotation? 

Post#37 » by LSWF » Sun Nov 3, 2024 6:46 pm

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LSWF wrote:Six games in, and this team is not exactly gelling. Conley and Ingles are looking washed. Jaden is playing poorly. Will Finch start holding players accountable? IMHO, this current rotation is not going to make any noise in the west. I would like to see RD, TSJ and Minott getting more than just garbage time minutes. If none of these young guys are rotation worthy this season we are going to need some changes at the deadline, and I think it's better to find out early.


I love Finch but he is very stubborn to change when ho has his mind made up. Right now he is determined to get this starting 8 to gell together. It has a long way to go. I, personally would sit a guy or two for a game to send a message but Finch probably won't.

Everybody seems to love Finch, but he's not getting what he needs from the current rotation. When a team loaded with talent underperforms, at some point the coach is generally held accountable. I'm not to the fire Finch stage, but with the schedule looking kind of favorable the net two weeks, if we get poor results, I could get there.
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Re: what about Finch's rotation? 

Post#38 » by Klomp » Mon Nov 4, 2024 3:01 pm

A lot of people are opining for a big man to help the second unit, but I think what that unit really needs is more Jaden McDaniels. I think his length and his elite ability as low man help on defense plus maybe his weaker jumper at times and his diving to the rim would play better next to Randle and Reid than it does with Gobert in there.

There is a chance for this need to be filled with sprinkling in Josh Minott, as well.
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Re: what about Finch's rotation? 

Post#39 » by cupcakesnake » Tue Nov 5, 2024 1:49 pm

LSWF wrote:
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LSWF wrote:Six games in, and this team is not exactly gelling. Conley and Ingles are looking washed. Jaden is playing poorly. Will Finch start holding players accountable? IMHO, this current rotation is not going to make any noise in the west. I would like to see RD, TSJ and Minott getting more than just garbage time minutes. If none of these young guys are rotation worthy this season we are going to need some changes at the deadline, and I think it's better to find out early.


I love Finch but he is very stubborn to change when ho has his mind made up. Right now he is determined to get this starting 8 to gell together. It has a long way to go. I, personally would sit a guy or two for a game to send a message but Finch probably won't.

Everybody seems to love Finch, but he's not getting what he needs from the current rotation. When a team loaded with talent underperforms, at some point the coach is generally held accountable. I'm not to the fire Finch stage, but with the schedule looking kind of favorable the net two weeks, if we get poor results, I could get there.


I don't see our current struggles as having much to do with rotation. If we can't win the Ant/Randle minutes, no amount of lineups tweaks is going to save us. The core of our team identity needs to be functional before you can optimize the rotation around it. Otherwise we're just putting bandaids on a gaping wound.

Our bench lineups are currently keeping us alive.

In terms of Conley and Ingles... they're old enough it's certainly possible they're "washed", but it's also not uncommon for older players to take longer to rev it up. It's way too soon to write them off. Ingles is already out of the rotation though.

I personally get why Finch is desperately clinging to a rigid 8-man rotation. Until he figures out how to optimize lineups with our best players, no amount of Minnott or Dilly is moving the needle. Those young guys need a stable platform to stand out and we haven't established that yet.

I don't think it's time yet to scrutinize rotations. Finch needs to figure out how to optimize Ant, Randle, and Jaden McDaniels.
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Re: what about Finch's rotation? 

Post#40 » by Guest84 » Tue Nov 5, 2024 4:20 pm

When it comes to that starting unit...I think it all revolves around Jaden. If he can't hit his jumpers, score off cuts, gets in foul trouble, etc..it's just going to make that unit look out of whack.

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