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Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? HE PULLED A MAGIC TRICK, HES NOT AN NBA PLAYER!!! HES A CHINA LEVEL PLAYER!!!

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Re: Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? 

Post#581 » by watch1958 » Sat Oct 19, 2024 7:32 am

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Re: Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? 

Post#582 » by The-Power » Sat Oct 19, 2024 3:18 pm

EvanZ wrote:I’m probably done with this team.

Promise?
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Post#583 » by EvanZ » Sat Oct 19, 2024 5:18 pm

The-Power wrote:
EvanZ wrote:I’m probably done with this team.

Promise?


I promise I’m probably done. Probably doesn’t mean 100%.
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Re: Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? 

Post#584 » by The-Power » Sat Oct 19, 2024 7:54 pm

EvanZ wrote:
The-Power wrote:
EvanZ wrote:I’m probably done with this team.

Promise?


I promise I’m probably done. Probably doesn’t mean 100%.

So, probably not then. Just more of the same complaining ahead.
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Post#585 » by EvanZ » Sat Oct 19, 2024 8:16 pm

The-Power wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
The-Power wrote:Promise?


I promise I’m probably done. Probably doesn’t mean 100%.

So, probably not then. Just more of the same complaining ahead.


Probably
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Re: Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? 

Post#586 » by wco81 » Mon Oct 21, 2024 4:31 pm

Happy for Moody for the contract.

But the Pelicans just gave Trey Murphy, who was drafted several spots after Moody, 4 years $112 million.

With one shorter year, Moody gets to improve his numbers and be up for a bigger contract sooner.
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Re: Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? 

Post#587 » by hamncheese » Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:08 am

I accidentally asked the Facebook AI for this season's roster and it named every player including the two-ways, except Moody! :lol:

The Golden State Warriors' opening night roster for the 2024-2025 season includes:

- *Guards*
- _Stephen Curry_, point guard, 15th season with the Warriors ¹
- _Gary Payton II_, point guard, 8th season in the NBA ¹
- _De'Anthony Melton_, point guard, 6th season in the NBA ¹
- _Reece Beekman_, point guard, rookie ¹
- _Pat Spencer_, point guard, 1st season with the Warriors ¹
- *Forwards*
- _Draymond Green_, power forward, 12th season with the Warriors ¹
- _Andrew Wiggins_, small forward, 10th season in the NBA ¹
- _Kyle Anderson_, forward/guard, 10th season in the NBA ¹
- _Buddy Hield_, shooting guard, 8th season in the NBA ¹
- _Jonathan Kuminga_, small forward, 3rd season with the Warriors ¹
- _Brandin Podziemski_, shooting guard, 1st season with the Warriors ¹
- _Gui Santos_, small forward, 1st season with the Warriors ¹
- _Lindy Waters III_, small forward, 3rd season in the NBA ¹
- *Centers*
- _Kevon Looney_, power forward/center, 9th season with the Warriors ¹
- _Trayce Jackson-Davis_, power forward, 1st season with the Warriors ¹
- _Quinten Post_, center, rookie ¹

The Warriors' opening night game is scheduled for October 23, 2024, against the Portland Trail Blazers at the Moda Center ².
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Re: Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? 

Post#588 » by TrueFan420 » Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:16 am

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EvanZ wrote:Found the stats. Moody is 14-15 from the line. Thesis confirmed lol. Unfortunately I also found JK is 9-18. Not a great sign for the legitimacy of his shooting leap.

Moody was always a better shooter than JK. Moody needs to be lights out as that’s what he brings offensively. JK needs to be passable because what he brings is geared toward attacking the basket.


Except Moody is now attacking the basket and hitting middie pull-ups. Basically JK has nothing on Moody this point. Warriors fans need to get over JK.

They’re very different players. There’s no need to compare them against each other when in reality their skillsets fit nicely together. I’d honestly start them at 2&3 and have Wiggins bring the scoring punch from the 2nd unit with Buddy. How we close is up to situation.
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Post#589 » by EvanZ » Fri Oct 25, 2024 4:30 pm

TrueFan420 wrote:
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TrueFan420 wrote:Moody was always a better shooter than JK. Moody needs to be lights out as that’s what he brings offensively. JK needs to be passable because what he brings is geared toward attacking the basket.


Except Moody is now attacking the basket and hitting middie pull-ups. Basically JK has nothing on Moody this point. Warriors fans need to get over JK.

They’re very different players. There’s no need to compare them against each other when in reality their skillsets fit nicely together. I’d honestly start them at 2&3 and have Wiggins bring the scoring punch from the 2nd unit with Buddy. How we close is up to situation.


We cannot continue to start 3 non-shooters. JK is the one that should come off the bench. He has not proved yet to be more useful in any lineup than Moody imo.

Steph/Melton/Wiggins/Dray/TJD should probably be the starting lineup

Podz/Buddy/Moody/JK/KA or Looney off the bench

These are optimal lineups. I have spoken.
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Re: Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? 

Post#590 » by TrueFan420 » Sat Oct 26, 2024 6:38 pm

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EvanZ wrote:
Except Moody is now attacking the basket and hitting middie pull-ups. Basically JK has nothing on Moody this point. Warriors fans need to get over JK.

They’re very different players. There’s no need to compare them against each other when in reality their skillsets fit nicely together. I’d honestly start them at 2&3 and have Wiggins bring the scoring punch from the 2nd unit with Buddy. How we close is up to situation.


We cannot continue to start 3 non-shooters. JK is the one that should come off the bench. He has not proved yet to be more useful in any lineup than Moody imo.

Steph/Melton/Wiggins/Dray/TJD should probably be the starting lineup

Podz/Buddy/Moody/JK/KA or Looney off the bench

These are optimal lineups. I have spoken.

JK is one of the few that attacks the hoop and his upside is still too much to pass up. He will continue to start. Whether you like it or not. Name of the game is defense with this lineup.
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Re: Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? 

Post#591 » by clyde21 » Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:58 pm

that extension we gave him might end up being one of the better contracts in the league next year. that's good news for us if we decide to keep him or trade him.
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Re: Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? 

Post#592 » by watch1958 » Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:05 pm

TrueFan420 wrote:
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TrueFan420 wrote:They’re very different players. There’s no need to compare them against each other when in reality their skillsets fit nicely together. I’d honestly start them at 2&3 and have Wiggins bring the scoring punch from the 2nd unit with Buddy. How we close is up to situation.


We cannot continue to start 3 non-shooters. JK is the one that should come off the bench. He has not proved yet to be more useful in any lineup than Moody imo.

Steph/Melton/Wiggins/Dray/TJD should probably be the starting lineup

Podz/Buddy/Moody/JK/KA or Looney off the bench

These are optimal lineups. I have spoken.

JK is one of the few that attacks the hoop and his upside is still too much to pass up. He will continue to start. Whether you like it or not. Name of the game is defense with this lineup.
The conversation about JK reminds me of Monta Ellis
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Re: Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? 

Post#593 » by TrueFan420 » Mon Oct 28, 2024 10:49 pm

watch1958 wrote:
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EvanZ wrote:
We cannot continue to start 3 non-shooters. JK is the one that should come off the bench. He has not proved yet to be more useful in any lineup than Moody imo.

Steph/Melton/Wiggins/Dray/TJD should probably be the starting lineup

Podz/Buddy/Moody/JK/KA or Looney off the bench

These are optimal lineups. I have spoken.

JK is one of the few that attacks the hoop and his upside is still too much to pass up. He will continue to start. Whether you like it or not. Name of the game is defense with this lineup.
The conversation about JK reminds me of Monta Ellis

Eh maybe to an extent but Monta was always problematic because he was a combo guard that needed a very specific side kick both defensively and offensively. Basically needed a Baron Davis type to work. JKs shooting isn’t amazing but he could fit on a lot of teams at SF without issue. Our issue none of our big men can shoot. Dray has some stretches of decent shooting but is far from a shooter. TJD and Loon are non shooters.
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Re: Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? 

Post#594 » by CDM_Stats » Tue Oct 29, 2024 12:24 am

Wow that is not what happened with Monta. Much like Monta, the problem is JK, not the people around him. JK at SF is going to be bad because he's not good on the perimeter on either side of the court. At least if he starts shooting well he could be a 3 level scorer and the defense could be forgiveable. But he'll make any team he plays on worse if he's playing SF.. its a bad idea any way its presented

Baron wasnt a complement to Monta, Baron guarded the PGs. The difference between Monta's lone good season and the rest of his career was that he was lower on the totem pole, and was promoted above his station. With guys who took the ball out of his hands more, there were less stupid mistakes and more selectiveness. Monta was never going to be a legit star, but he thought he was, and back then these were the exact excuses to make it not his fault.. so yeah its a lot like Monta
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Re: Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? 

Post#595 » by Crazy-Canuck » Tue Oct 29, 2024 2:49 am

TrueFan420 wrote:
watch1958 wrote:
TrueFan420 wrote:JK is one of the few that attacks the hoop and his upside is still too much to pass up. He will continue to start. Whether you like it or not. Name of the game is defense with this lineup.
The conversation about JK reminds me of Monta Ellis

Eh maybe to an extent but Monta was always problematic because he was a combo guard that needed a very specific side kick both defensively and offensively. Basically needed a Baron Davis type to work. JKs shooting isn’t amazing but he could fit on a lot of teams at SF without issue. Our issue none of our big men can shoot. Dray has some stretches of decent shooting but is far from a shooter. TJD and Loon are non shooters.


You perfectly described kuminga. Instead of being a combo guard, he's a tweener (essentially the same thing). He also needs very specific sidekicks: a stretch 5 or 4 who will cover rebounding, defending, abd shooting. He also needs a sg who can cover shooting, defending, abd ball handling.

I'm not sure there are any teams willing to start a non shooting, non defending, and non ball handling SF except the dubs.
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Re: Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? 

Post#596 » by KevinMcreynolds » Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:25 pm

I think JK is closer to being a sparkplug of the bench like Barbosa then a starting player and difference maker. I wonder if we could get something like Zach Collins and a 1st for him. I have no clue what his market value is though.
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Re: Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? 

Post#597 » by GQ Hot Dog » Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:34 pm

EvanZ wrote:
The-Power wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
I promise I’m probably done. Probably doesn’t mean 100%.

So, probably not then. Just more of the same complaining ahead.


Probably

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Post#598 » by vvoland » Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:09 pm

The better question might be, is Lindy Waters III the player we all think Moses Moody will become?
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Post#599 » by vvoland » Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:16 pm

Crazy-Canuck wrote:
TrueFan420 wrote:
watch1958 wrote:The conversation about JK reminds me of Monta Ellis

Eh maybe to an extent but Monta was always problematic because he was a combo guard that needed a very specific side kick both defensively and offensively. Basically needed a Baron Davis type to work. JKs shooting isn’t amazing but he could fit on a lot of teams at SF without issue. Our issue none of our big men can shoot. Dray has some stretches of decent shooting but is far from a shooter. TJD and Loon are non shooters.


You perfectly described kuminga. Instead of being a combo guard, he's a tweener (essentially the same thing). He also needs very specific sidekicks: a stretch 5 or 4 who will cover rebounding, defending, abd shooting. He also needs a sg who can cover shooting, defending, abd ball handling.

I'm not sure there are any teams willing to start a non shooting, non defending, and non ball handling SF except the dubs.


But how do you reaaally feel about JK?

it's really weird to me how people view JK on this board. He's far form a perfect player but to describe him in the way you did above is certifiably insane.
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Re: Is Moses Moody an NBA caliber player? 

Post#600 » by TrueFan420 » Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:27 pm

Crazy-Canuck wrote:
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watch1958 wrote:The conversation about JK reminds me of Monta Ellis

Eh maybe to an extent but Monta was always problematic because he was a combo guard that needed a very specific side kick both defensively and offensively. Basically needed a Baron Davis type to work. JKs shooting isn’t amazing but he could fit on a lot of teams at SF without issue. Our issue none of our big men can shoot. Dray has some stretches of decent shooting but is far from a shooter. TJD and Loon are non shooters.


You perfectly described kuminga. Instead of being a combo guard, he's a tweener (essentially the same thing). He also needs very specific sidekicks: a stretch 5 or 4 who will cover rebounding, defending, abd shooting. He also needs a sg who can cover shooting, defending, abd ball handling.

I'm not sure there are any teams willing to start a non shooting, non defending, and non ball handling SF except the dubs.

Man that’s a hot take. He’s far from perfect buts also no near what you’re describing.

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