Sixers 2024-25 Season Thread Part 1

Eyeamok · Post #41 » by **Eyeamok** » Wed Oct 30, 2024 7:30 pm

If his knee was/is so unstable then why sign him to the extension? Good business sense says you wait no !

eyeatoma · Post #42 » by **eyeatoma** » Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:04 pm

His knee is basically a ticking timebomb is what I gather from this. I.E. he could have a torn ACl, or major ligament injury if he plays on an unstable knee.

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Post #43 » by **Sixerscan** » Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:00 pm

I mean that just says why he didn't play... presumably when it's "stable enough" he'll play. Which given that he's apparently playing 5 on 5 is probably soon. I hesitate even interpret these quotes because they're probably just all nonsense meant to satisfy parties with money without saying anything.

He for sure has a bad knee at this point. They're gonna be super conservative with him the rest of his career seems like, and with the Sixers that comes tons of nonsense quotes. If you're gonna react to every quote assuming it means he secretly had all of his meniscus removed or is one step from a torn ACL its gonna be a stressful ride for you.

eyeatoma · Post #44 » by **eyeatoma** » Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:18 pm

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eyeatoma · Post #45 » by **eyeatoma** » Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:18 pm

Sixerscan wrote:I mean that just says why he didn't play... presumably when it's "stable enough" he'll play. Which given that he's apparently playing 5 on 5 is probably soon. I hesitate even interpret these quotes because they're probably just all nonsense meant to satisfy parties with money without saying anything.

He for sure has a bad knee at this point. They're gonna be super conservative with him the rest of his career seems like, and with the Sixers that comes tons of nonsense quotes. If you're gonna react to every quote assuming it means he secretly had all of his meniscus removed or is one step from a torn ACL its gonna be a stressful ride for you.

Point is it'll likely never be stable enough. He's not magically regrowing a meniscus.

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Post #46 » by **Sixerscan** » Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:27 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:I mean that just says why he didn't play... presumably when it's "stable enough" he'll play. Which given that he's apparently playing 5 on 5 is probably soon. I hesitate even interpret these quotes because they're probably just all nonsense meant to satisfy parties with money without saying anything.

He for sure has a bad knee at this point. They're gonna be super conservative with him the rest of his career seems like, and with the Sixers that comes tons of nonsense quotes. If you're gonna react to every quote assuming it means he secretly had all of his meniscus removed or is one step from a torn ACL its gonna be a stressful ride for you.
Point is it'll likely never be stable enough. He's not magically regrowing a meniscus.

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You're just making that up though

Eyeamok · Post #47 » by **Eyeamok** » Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:43 pm

Only the 76ers could draft 20 centers in a row and none of them pan out.

eyeatoma · Post #48 » by **eyeatoma** » Wed Oct 30, 2024 11:06 pm

Sixerscan wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:I mean that just says why he didn't play... presumably when it's "stable enough" he'll play. Which given that he's apparently playing 5 on 5 is probably soon. I hesitate even interpret these quotes because they're probably just all nonsense meant to satisfy parties with money without saying anything.

He for sure has a bad knee at this point. They're gonna be super conservative with him the rest of his career seems like, and with the Sixers that comes tons of nonsense quotes. If you're gonna react to every quote assuming it means he secretly had all of his meniscus removed or is one step from a torn ACL its gonna be a stressful ride for you.
Point is it'll likely never be stable enough. He's not magically regrowing a meniscus.

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You're just making that up though

How? We know he had surgery. Multiple times on the same knee. He either has very little cartilage or no cartilage at all. That literally causes knee instability as it's a shock absorber. That's why he'll always need to wear the brace. The reinjury rate after having multiple meniscus surgeries on the same knee is 30 percent.

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FireMorey · Post #49 » by **FireMorey** » Wed Oct 30, 2024 11:12 pm

I'm not sure what the stable knee even means. I think it's a euphemism because as long as your knee is structurally in tact, then it is stable. By "stable" I think they mean not structurally sound, but they mean stable as they want it calmed down--ie it's probably sore.

If they mean stable literally then it's not just going to become stable with rest. That makes zero sense. And that would mean there is something structurally wrong with his knee like torn ligaments.

Post #50 » by **Sixerscan** » Wed Oct 30, 2024 11:23 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:Point is it'll likely never be stable enough. He's not magically regrowing a meniscus.

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You're just making that up though
How? We know he had surgery. Multiple times on the same knee. He either has very little cartilage or no cartilage at all. That literally causes knee instability as it's a shock absorber. That's why he'll always need to wear the brace. The reinsurance rate after have multiple meniscus surgeries on the same knee is 30 percent.

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Ok I don't want to go back and forth on this, just saying they said it was meniscectomy and you were just jumping to it being a meniscus removal.

HotelVitale · Post #51 » by **HotelVitale** » Wed Oct 30, 2024 11:24 pm

HotelVitale wrote:
Stanford wrote:Pistons fans have pretty much marked this game down as a win for them.

I actually came here to warn us against thinking this is the old Pistons. Watched some of the last two games, they're not amazing but they actually have a coherent team now: Cade runs high pn'r all day and there are a bunch of shooters plus Duren as a rim-running type, and Ivey is intersting as a secondary creator (he's still learning on the job but can gt hot). They play hard and they're definitely worlds better than the last couple years, I'm expecting that at best it'll be a tough game.

Scouting report not looking accurate so far.

eyeatoma · Post #52 » by **eyeatoma** » Wed Oct 30, 2024 11:30 pm

Sixerscan wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:You're just making that up though
How? We know he had surgery. Multiple times on the same knee. He either has very little cartilage or no cartilage at all. That literally causes knee instability as it's a shock absorber. That's why he'll always need to wear the brace. The reinsurance rate after have multiple meniscus surgeries on the same knee is 30 percent.

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Ok I don't want to go back and forth on this, just saying they said it was meniscectomy and you were just jumping to it being a meniscus removal.

Yes a full removal is speculation. But an unstable knee likely means there is barely any left or there might be scar tissue. Worst case scenario is there is none left.

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Post #53 » by **Sixerscan** » Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:02 am

eyeatoma wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:How? We know he had surgery. Multiple times on the same knee. He either has very little cartilage or no cartilage at all. That literally causes knee instability as it's a shock absorber. That's why he'll always need to wear the brace. The reinsurance rate after have multiple meniscus surgeries on the same knee is 30 percent.

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Ok I don't want to go back and forth on this, just saying they said it was meniscectomy and you were just jumping to it being a meniscus removal.
Yes a full removal is speculation. But an unstable knee likely means there is barely any left or there might be scar tissue. Worst case scenario is there is none left.

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IDK about all that but agreed after 2 meniscectomies it's probably always going to be a concern, as is tendonitis and so on.

the_process · Post #54 » by **the_process** » Thu Oct 31, 2024 3:46 am

Is it fair to simply say the extension was a poor idea?

This team gets good players and turns them into crap. Why? Is the coach not allowed to coach? Who could possibly be overriding him or forcing him to simplify things?

eyeatoma · Post #55 » by **eyeatoma** » Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:39 am

Eyeamok wrote:Only the 76ers could draft 20 centers in a row and none of them pan out.

I mean Embiid did, if we mean pan out by a chip, that's kinda hard. But if healthy we know how good he is.

eyeatoma · Post #56 » by **eyeatoma** » Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:44 am

Spoiler:

OLD Tweet, no Jo isn't having another surgery. Not yet atleast...

I wonder if they did a repair, and it didn't take, or there has been some residual swelling etc from it. The official report was that he had a meniscus procedure not a mensiciotomy, that was assumed by most people.

Spoiler:

OLD Tweet, no Jo isn't having another surgery. Not yet atleast...

NearingZero · Post #57 » by **NearingZero** » Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:35 pm

eyeatoma wrote:I wonder if they did a repair, and it didn't take, or there has been some residual swelling etc from it. The official report was that he had a meniscus procedure not a mensiciotomy, that was assumed by most people.

The lowest recovery time I've seen on the web for a repair is 3-6 months. Some places list 6-9 months. It would be insane to have a repair and come back in less than 2 months.

Post #58 » by **Stanford** » Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:36 pm

Good lord, do not post old tweets with the words BREAKING and UNDERGO A PROCEDURE on them lol

eyeatoma · Post #59 » by **eyeatoma** » Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:43 pm

Stanford wrote:Good lord, do not post old tweets with the words BREAKING and UNDERGO A PROCEDURE on them lol

Lol my bad, realized that after I wrote it.

eyeatoma · Post #60 » by **eyeatoma** » Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:45 pm

NearingZero wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:I wonder if they did a repair, and it didn't take, or there has been some residual swelling etc from it. The official report was that he had a meniscus procedure not a mensiciotomy, that was assumed by most people.

The lowest recovery time I've seen on the web for a repair is 3-6 months. Some places list 6-9 months. It would be insane to have a repair and come back in less than 2 months.

That's my logic, maybe that's why he seemed so hampered by it. That he pushed himself to play regardless.