Paolo Banchero Out Indefinitely with a Torn Oblique. Reevaluated in 4-6 Weeks.

I Rasharted · Post #101 » by **I Rasharted** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 10:13 am

But also, why are people claiming Banchero will be out all year, lol? He'll be back, step away from the ledge.

Agreeing with eyriq: Magic could/should be around .500 with Banchero out.

The-Stallion70 · Post #102 » by **The-Stallion70** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 10:27 am

Scoop for Coop?

Play bad for Flagg?

J-Mezzy · Post #103 » by **J-Mezzy** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 10:34 am

This is beyond terrible for Paolo who was looking like an ALL NBA season

But man our offense is going to look beyond terrible.

On the bright side, Franz will have to step up and we will see just how good he can be and we will probably be the best defensive team in the league

Skybox · Post #104 » by **Skybox** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 10:59 am

Teams with a max guy, a $30m guy, a $22m UFA, two recent lottery picks, and a handful of guys around the MLE have shouldn’t be talking about tanking - unless they’ve invested poorly or they do a sell off.

ORLMagicGirl15 · Post #105 » by **ORLMagicGirl15** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 11:07 am

Skybox wrote:Teams with a max guy, a $30m guy, a $22m UFA, two recent lottery picks, and a handful of guys around the MLE have shouldn’t be talking about tanking - unless they’ve invested poorly or they do a sell off.

We are not paying a max guy or a $30m guy this season.

basketballRob · Post #106 » by **basketballRob** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 11:11 am

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:
Skybox wrote:Teams with a max guy, a $30m guy, a $22m UFA, two recent lottery picks, and a handful of guys around the MLE have shouldn’t be talking about tanking - unless they’ve invested poorly or they do a sell off.

We are not paying a max guy or a $30m guy this season.

Good point. We're the 27th in salaries this season.

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pepe1991 · Post #107 » by **pepe1991** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 11:18 am

I Rasharted wrote:But also, why are people claiming Banchero will be out all year, lol? He'll be back, step away from the ledge.

Agreeing with eyriq: Magic could/should be around .500 with Banchero out.

Probably out for calendar year, 2024?

Just like reports say in early April "done for a season" than you figure he is out for remaining 3 games :lol:

richi_v25 · Post #108 » by **richi_v25** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 11:42 am

Dang he went from putting out 50 pts to out 50 games... I stepped away for Halloween and this happens wtf it's almost worst case scenario. Did we just became the Hornets of last year?

yoyojw17 · Post #109 » by **yoyojw17** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 11:51 am

Next man up!!! Gonna be some big shoes to fill... but everyone gonna have to have to level up.... and hopefully we can also find a style of play that makes it all work!

Hurry back soon P5.

Skybox · Post #110 » by **Skybox** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 11:57 am

basketballRob wrote:
ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:
Skybox wrote:Teams with a max guy, a $30m guy, a $22m UFA, two recent lottery picks, and a handful of guys around the MLE have shouldn’t be talking about tanking - unless they’ve invested poorly or they do a sell off.

We are not paying a max guy or a $30m guy this season.
Good point. We're the 27th in salaries this season.

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Is it really a good point? :noway:

obviously, ORL signed the contracts and labeled them. :banghead:

Post #111 » by **eyriq** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 12:29 pm

Marcus Smart had a similar injury in April, 2019 and took less than a month to recover. Vooch was involved in that one, too. That was considered ahead of schedule and was during the playoffs, so perhaps a bit forced.

RookieStar · Post #112 » by **RookieStar** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 12:38 pm

I Rasharted wrote:But also, why are people claiming Banchero will be out all year, lol? He'll be back, step away from the ledge.

Agreeing with eyriq: Magic could/should be around .500 with Banchero out.

Well... we are in November already and their estinaye is 4-6weeks evaluation... so yeah out all year? Even if its just 2 months or so?

drsd · Post #113 » by **drsd** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 12:51 pm

Husky1 wrote:Do we see how the cards fall or do we make a trade for someone like Jerami Grant. A 4 that can also slide to the 3 once Paolo is back. Grant, Cam Johnson, Kuzma, DFS etc. Spitballing here

Orlando needed a SF, and now needs a combo-forward. Anthony needs to be shipped for a P.J. Tucker, Grant Williams, Kyle Kuzma, Dorian Finney-Smith, or my new favorite: Tari Eason. Or someone like that.

To Eason, the Rockets could use PG depth and are overloaded in bigs. It's an interesting trade. Obviously the Magic would need to add a Houstan-type and absorb a "bad" contract. ?Jae'Sean Tate?

Anthony and the lowest FRP should get Tucker or Finney-Smith.

In the end, when its Tucker, I am ok with that.

drsd · Post #114 » by **drsd** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 12:58 pm

Orl_Magic wrote:JI can start along side Wendell and Goga Mo off the bench. If JI cant go then bring in g league big to rebound and guard other 4s

All these posts on "Black needs to step up as a starter". "Bitadze/M-Wagner will start"? etc. make no sense to me.

Orlando will try to win so the Magic will start its best available PF: Issac.

The rotational depth chart needs to be (until Anthony is traded):

Suggs/Black
Caldwell-Pope/Howard
F-Wagner/Harris
Isaac/M-Wagner
Carter/Bitadze

With spot minutes to the other four. I see no other path forward without a trade. Pun intended.

orlando_joe · Post #115 » by **orlando_joe** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 1:03 pm

Skybox wrote:Teams with a max guy, a $30m guy, a $22m UFA, two recent lottery picks, and a handful of guys around the MLE have shouldn’t be talking about tanking - unless they’ve invested poorly or they do a sell off.

well you could pull a spurs they got timmy...or golden state they got a top pick but he was not good...it has happened in past
no they have no player making max this yr...and ji is paid this yr so next 4 are cheaper

Post #116 » by **SOUL** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 1:06 pm

Black will start IMO. Suggs/KCP/Black/Franz/WCJ with Black/Suggs ball-handling duties. Can't just take away a big hub in Paolo and have Suggs/Franz as the only people able to handle the ball.

Isaac's minutes are too weird to be thrust into a starter as well. WCJ and him are both kinda clunky playing together as they are both aren't reliable consistent post players, and that would also force Moe-Goga together, which is also weird as Moe can't space the floor well and Goga plays inside. Just weird big combos.

Prob something like:

Suggs/Cole (maybe or Jett)
KCP/Harris
Black/TDS or Houstan
Franz/Isaac
WCJ/Moe

Spot Goga minutes mixed in.

Also, no way is PJ Tucker worth a first and Cole. Would rather just package that for someone else if we're doing panic trades.

Post #117 » by **SOUL** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 1:09 pm

orlando_joe wrote:
Skybox wrote:Teams with a max guy, a $30m guy, a $22m UFA, two recent lottery picks, and a handful of guys around the MLE have shouldn’t be talking about tanking - unless they’ve invested poorly or they do a sell off.

well you could pull a spurs they got timmy...or golden state they got a top pick but he was not good...it has happened in past
no they have no player making max this yr...and ji is paid this yr so next 4 are cheaper

Paolo (hopefully) is only gone about 1/3rd of the season.

Team would have to have Franz/Suggs/Isaac out as well to be truly as bad as some people think for even a chance at Flagg.

We're not doing that for a 3-8% chance of a guy we already have our best positions in.

Optimus_Steel · Post #118 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 1:14 pm

This opens potential opportunities for young guys to step up.

basketballRob · Post #119 » by **basketballRob** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 1:42 pm

drsd wrote:
Orl_Magic wrote:JI can start along side Wendell and Goga Mo off the bench. If JI cant go then bring in g league big to rebound and guard other 4s

All these posts on "Black needs to step up as a starter". "Bitadze/M-Wagner will start"? etc. make no sense to me.

Orlando will try to win so the Magic will start its best available PF: Issac.

The rotational depth chart needs to be (until Anthony is traded):

Suggs/Black
Caldwell-Pope/Howard
F-Wagner/Harris
Isaac/M-Wagner
Carter/Bitadze

With spot minutes to the other four. I see no other path forward without a trade. Pun intended.

That will probably be the lineup unless they start Moe.

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RichCollab · Post #120 » by **RichCollab** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 1:47 pm

SOUL wrote:Black will start IMO. Suggs/KCP/Black/Franz/WCJ with Black/Suggs ball-handling duties. Can't just take away a big hub in Paolo and have Suggs/Franz as the only people able to handle the ball.

Isaac's minutes are too weird to be thrust into a starter as well. WCJ and him are both kinda clunky playing together as they are both aren't reliable consistent post players, and that would also force Moe-Goga together, which is also weird as Moe can't space the floor well and Goga plays inside. Just weird big combos.

Prob something like:

Suggs/Cole (maybe or Jett)
KCP/Harris
Black/TDS or Houstan
Franz/Isaac
WCJ/Moe

Spot Goga minutes mixed in.

Also, no way is PJ Tucker worth a first and Cole. Would rather just package that for someone else if we're doing panic trades.

Mosely had a talk with Cole that he was out of the rotation. Does Paolo’s injury bring him back? I think he is out.

Suggs / Black / Cole / Corey
KCP / Jett
Franz / Harris / Caleb
Open / JI / TDS
WCJ / Moe / Goga