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Post#121 » by JB7 » Fri Nov 1, 2024 4:05 am

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Tha Cynic wrote:Houston has so many good young players they have at least two of them playing garbage minutes every night. You know a big trade is coming there.


Was thinking the same thing. You can just tell this team is gonna push their chips in

Dark horse for Giannis?


Does Giannis though try and force his way to a particular team, like GSW? Better chance to win in the immediate future with Steph and Dray there.
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Post#122 » by ForeverTFC » Fri Nov 1, 2024 4:07 am

Duffman100 wrote:
Tha Cynic wrote:Houston has so many good young players they have at least two of them playing garbage minutes every night. You know a big trade is coming there.


Was thinking the same thing. You can just tell this team is gonna push their chips in

Dark horse for Giannis?


Wouldn't say dark horse, they're the clear favorite. They're primed for a consolidation trade and have the most assets to go grab the next star on the market. Ton of big salaries, Green, a bunch of prospects, and a ton of picks.
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Post#123 » by douggood » Fri Nov 1, 2024 4:39 am

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Duffman100 wrote:
Tha Cynic wrote:Houston has so many good young players they have at least two of them playing garbage minutes every night. You know a big trade is coming there.


Was thinking the same thing. You can just tell this team is gonna push their chips in

Dark horse for Giannis?


Does Giannis though try and force his way to a particular team, like GSW? Better chance to win in the immediate future with Steph and Dray there.

gsw could unload everything and still not have enough imo

3 picks + kuminga, pods, moody, wiggins

that pick they owe in 2030 to wash is protected 1-20, but it complicates as they cant trade 4 picks now
can trade 2025, 2027, 2030 (1-20)
or 2026, 2028, 2030 (1-20)
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Post#124 » by Brinbe » Fri Nov 1, 2024 4:46 am

ryan dunn looking like the steal of the draft. 4-7 from 3 tonight and he keeps on hitting them.

really shows that the draft is a crapshoot because don't think anyone expected this outcome after how he looked shooting in college.
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Post#125 » by mdenny » Fri Nov 1, 2024 4:49 am

Duffman100 wrote:Fed just threw a better lob than he ever did in his time here.


The most glorious NBA finals in basketball history:


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Post#126 » by RoteSchroder » Fri Nov 1, 2024 4:52 am

Brinbe wrote:ryan dunn looking like the steal of the draft. 4-7 from 3 tonight and he keeps on hitting them.

really shows that the draft is a crapshoot because don't think anyone expected this outcome after how he looked shooting in college.


Teams could probably somewhat assess his shooting potential in workouts, they can give him tips and see how well he adjusts.

The defense on this team would have been insane with Dunn, but I don't think the risk was for us. If he was unable to shoot, he'd be nearly unplayable. He makes a lot of sense for the Suns.
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Post#127 » by Los_29 » Fri Nov 1, 2024 11:43 am

Edey has really struggled so far. Hope he can figure it out as there are some nice skills there.
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Post#128 » by ATLTimekeeper » Fri Nov 1, 2024 11:52 am

Los_29 wrote:Edey has really struggled so far. Hope he can figure it out as there are some nice skills there.


He's 3rd in rookie scoring in just 16 minutes. I wouldn't call that struggling.

Teams that are trying to win, like Memphis and Houston, aren't playing their rookies much. RIsacher is playing for Atlanta, and he looks awful as a result.
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Post#129 » by Los_29 » Fri Nov 1, 2024 11:58 am

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Los_29 wrote:Edey has really struggled so far. Hope he can figure it out as there are some nice skills there.


He's 3rd in rookie scoring in just 16 minutes. I wouldn't call that struggling.

Teams that are trying to win, like Memphis and Houston, aren't playing their rookies much. RIsacher is playing for Atlanta, and he looks awful as a result.


I’m more looking at the defensive side of the ball. I think his size and skills can pose problems in certain matchups.
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Post#130 » by God Squad » Fri Nov 1, 2024 12:23 pm

Getting rid of GTJ has been massive for our lineups. That bum was literally bleeding points and couldn't hit a shot consistently.

Good riddance.
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Post#131 » by kwajo » Fri Nov 1, 2024 1:06 pm

ATLTimekeeper wrote:
Los_29 wrote:Edey has really struggled so far. Hope he can figure it out as there are some nice skills there.


He's 3rd in rookie scoring in just 16 minutes. I wouldn't call that struggling.

Teams that are trying to win, like Memphis and Houston, aren't playing their rookies much. RIsacher is playing for Atlanta, and he looks awful as a result.


He's had some rookie foul trouble too, which hopefully he can clean up and stay on the court longer. He's coming along well though, it's only a few games into his career.
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Post#132 » by MiamiSPX » Fri Nov 1, 2024 1:35 pm

JB7 wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
Tha Cynic wrote:Houston has so many good young players they have at least two of them playing garbage minutes every night. You know a big trade is coming there.


Was thinking the same thing. You can just tell this team is gonna push their chips in

Dark horse for Giannis?


Does Giannis though try and force his way to a particular team, like GSW? Better chance to win in the immediate future with Steph and Dray there.


If I am not mistaken, his wife is from California and we know how that goes lol.
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Post#133 » by Dalek » Fri Nov 1, 2024 2:13 pm

I was a fan of Jaylen Wells in the draft and he is picking up steam. Saw Ja flinging cross court passes to him and he was hitting threes. He also guarded Lillard at points and kept him in front. He is really a good find and not surprising the Grizzlies took him. His numbers popped in college.

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Post#134 » by Tha Cynic » Fri Nov 1, 2024 2:17 pm

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Duffman100 wrote:
Tha Cynic wrote:Houston has so many good young players they have at least two of them playing garbage minutes every night. You know a big trade is coming there.


Was thinking the same thing. You can just tell this team is gonna push their chips in

Dark horse for Giannis?


Wouldn't say dark horse, they're the clear favorite. They're primed for a consolidation trade and have the most assets to go grab the next star on the market. Ton of big salaries, Green, a bunch of prospects, and a ton of picks.


OKC hasn't shown a willingness to make a big trade yet and maybe it doesn't make sense, but...

Once Jalen Williams has his new contract he will be able to match bigger salaries.

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Post#135 » by mdenny » Fri Nov 1, 2024 2:35 pm

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douggood wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:Hood-Schifino didn't even get his 3rd year option picked up. I think it's been a while since someone picked this high had that happen, last one I remember was Joe Alexander.

jalen smith, picked 10th i believe by the suns.


Ah yes, he was another one


Honestly ì think this is the lebron factor. He's the only player who seems to have a veto on this sorta thing.

And it's a decent devate whether more teams should take this route. The amount of time and money most teams spend on draft picks is pretty gratuitous. And they provably know by year 3 or 4 whether it's a sunk cost but they opt for the safe play and extend guys anyways.

Just go look at the first 30 draft picks from three years ago to 5 years ago. Tell me how many names yoy recognize. Ppl really don't understand how many first round picks are duds.
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Post#136 » by mdenny » Fri Nov 1, 2024 2:39 pm

Tha Cynic wrote:
ForeverTFC wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
Was thinking the same thing. You can just tell this team is gonna push their chips in

Dark horse for Giannis?


Wouldn't say dark horse, they're the clear favorite. They're primed for a consolidation trade and have the most assets to go grab the next star on the market. Ton of big salaries, Green, a bunch of prospects, and a ton of picks.


OKC hasn't shown a willingness to make a big trade yet and maybe it doesn't make sense, but...

Once Jalen Williams has his new contract he will be able to match bigger salaries.

Chet
Giannis
Dort
Caruso
SGA

Wallace
Hartenstein
Wiggins


Yep. I was thinking the same thing. Giannis on OKC seems like the most logical development.

Giannis cares less about big lights/big city than most stars. That fits OKC. They got a bottomless chest of assets and picks that barely any other team can compete with. Giannis and Shae seem like complimentary skill sets.
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Post#137 » by kwajo » Fri Nov 1, 2024 2:42 pm

Tha Cynic wrote:
ForeverTFC wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
Was thinking the same thing. You can just tell this team is gonna push their chips in

Dark horse for Giannis?


Wouldn't say dark horse, they're the clear favorite. They're primed for a consolidation trade and have the most assets to go grab the next star on the market. Ton of big salaries, Green, a bunch of prospects, and a ton of picks.


OKC hasn't shown a willingness to make a big trade yet and maybe it doesn't make sense, but...

Once Jalen Williams has his new contract he will be able to match bigger salaries.

Chet
Giannis
Dort
Caruso
SGA

Wallace
Hartenstein
Wiggins


I'd be surprised if this happens, but damn that starting 5 would have the potential to be an all-time defensive nightmare. Can you imagine trying to drive against Dort or Caruso with Giannis and Chet lurking behind them?
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Post#138 » by JB7 » Fri Nov 1, 2024 3:11 pm

mdenny wrote:
Tha Cynic wrote:
ForeverTFC wrote:
Wouldn't say dark horse, they're the clear favorite. They're primed for a consolidation trade and have the most assets to go grab the next star on the market. Ton of big salaries, Green, a bunch of prospects, and a ton of picks.


OKC hasn't shown a willingness to make a big trade yet and maybe it doesn't make sense, but...

Once Jalen Williams has his new contract he will be able to match bigger salaries.

Chet
Giannis
Dort
Caruso
SGA

Wallace
Hartenstein
Wiggins


Yep. I was thinking the same thing. Giannis on OKC seems like the most logical development.

Giannis cares less about big lights/big city than most stars. That fits OKC. They got a bottomless chest of assets and picks that barely any other team can compete with. Giannis and Shae seem like complimentary skill sets.


Would make sense, but I think Presti just isn't able to pull the trigger on these types of deals, because it is kind of an all in move. I think he would be happier to sit on a core of SGA, JDub and Chet, until one of them forces their way out.

Also, if Giannis is dealt, it could very well be this trade deadline. If the Bucks continue to look like a non-factor because of their aging starting core, waiting another year is not going to make things any better. And better to trade Giannis early than late, before injuries and age become more of a factor.
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Post#139 » by Tha Cynic » Fri Nov 1, 2024 4:44 pm

We don't talk about it as much anymore, but that Norm Powell trade was a loss. He has developed into an elite 6th man or even just a scorer. He was also entering his prime when the trade was made.
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Post#140 » by ForeverTFC » Fri Nov 1, 2024 5:44 pm

JB7 wrote:
mdenny wrote:
Tha Cynic wrote:
OKC hasn't shown a willingness to make a big trade yet and maybe it doesn't make sense, but...

Once Jalen Williams has his new contract he will be able to match bigger salaries.

Chet
Giannis
Dort
Caruso
SGA

Wallace
Hartenstein
Wiggins


Yep. I was thinking the same thing. Giannis on OKC seems like the most logical development.

Giannis cares less about big lights/big city than most stars. That fits OKC. They got a bottomless chest of assets and picks that barely any other team can compete with. Giannis and Shae seem like complimentary skill sets.


Would make sense, but I think Presti just isn't able to pull the trigger on these types of deals, because it is kind of an all in move. I think he would be happier to sit on a core of SGA, JDub and Chet, until one of them forces their way out.

Also, if Giannis is dealt, it could very well be this trade deadline. If the Bucks continue to look like a non-factor because of their aging starting core, waiting another year is not going to make things any better. And better to trade Giannis early than late, before injuries and age become more of a factor.


I just don't think they have the salaries to do it. JDub will be on his rookie scale contract through next season. His (inevitable) extension will only kick in for the 2026-2027 season. Giannis will move before that if he's moving.

Giannis is making ~$55m per. The only path is Hartenstein + Dort + prospects to match that salary. And then once you do that, their cap situation becomes hell. Either they will have 2 rookie maxes + 2 supermaxes, or they would have to trade JDub on his rookie contract which would be a big waste of that asset. OKC is not the type of team that is going to pay a big tax bill.

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