2024-25 NBA MVP Discussion Thread

[Jadoogar]

I hope Donovan gets some love… hope the Cavs win 60 games and then see if he has a shot.

Mitchell has been good but not great (even by his own standard). he's a great volume scorer and that's nice but he's not MVP material, Cavs are doing great as a team, not because of DM specifically

Yea mitchell is going to have the same issue that Tatum has, the supporting cast is playing too well for Mitchell to really be highlighted.

[Yuri36]

It's quite funny to see the same people who were saying last year that Luka would get it this year because of his PO run and the historical individual season he had now saying it's SGA who should win it this year.
It confirms me they were somehow bullshiting when people like me were telling them that Luka absolutely deserved the MVP LAST YEAR with the individual season he had and even on a collective point of view with his team who were along Boston basicly the best team in NBA after the trades they made and the return of lively from injury.

[Kurtz]

It's quite funny to see the same people who were saying last year that Luka would get it this year because of his PO run and the historical individual season he had now saying it's SGA who should win it this year.
It confirms me they were somehow bullshiting when people like me were telling them that Luka absolutely deserved the MVP LAST YEAR with the individual season he had and even on a collective point of view with his team who were along Boston basicly the best team in NBA after the trades they made and the return of lively from injury.

OKC is expected to be #1 this year, which is why SGA is currently the favourite, as the best player on the best team. Dallas was the #5 seed last year, so it's not the same thing.

Luka has had a very underwhelming start to the season this year, which is why he's not getting hype. At some point he'll heat up, and will start getting hyped for the MVP again.

[Yuri36]

It's quite funny to see the same people who were saying last year that Luka would get it this year because of his PO run and the historical individual season he had now saying it's SGA who should win it this year.
It confirms me they were somehow bullshiting when people like me were telling them that Luka absolutely deserved the MVP LAST YEAR with the individual season he had and even on a collective point of view with his team who were along Boston basicly the best team in NBA after the trades they made and the return of lively from injury.

OKC is expected to be #1 this year, which is why SGA is currently the favourite, as the best player on the best team. Dallas was the #5 seed last year, so it's not the same thing.

Luka has had a very underwhelming start to the season this year, which is why he's not getting hype. At some point he'll heat up, and will start getting hyped for the MVP again.

You just can't use Dallas being #5 seed last year against Luka, in fact it's quite the contrary when you look at the fact that Dallas had many injuries and most of all were basicly on paper nowhere near the best teams in the West like Denver, OKC or Wolves before they got Gafford and PJ Washington

And notice i'm saying that for now, SGA should win the MVP this year, my point is just that Luka for me was robbed of the MVP last year for bullshite reasons and excuses like "let's have him a big PO run first and then he will get it the following year for the incredible individual season he had before even if he has an average season for his standards the following season"

[Kurtz]

It's quite funny to see the same people who were saying last year that Luka would get it this year because of his PO run and the historical individual season he had now saying it's SGA who should win it this year.
It confirms me they were somehow bullshiting when people like me were telling them that Luka absolutely deserved the MVP LAST YEAR with the individual season he had and even on a collective point of view with his team who were along Boston basicly the best team in NBA after the trades they made and the return of lively from injury.

OKC is expected to be #1 this year, which is why SGA is currently the favourite, as the best player on the best team. Dallas was the #5 seed last year, so it's not the same thing.

Luka has had a very underwhelming start to the season this year, which is why he's not getting hype. At some point he'll heat up, and will start getting hyped for the MVP again.

You just can't use Dallas being #5 seed last year against Luka, in fact it's quite the contrary when you look at the fact that Dallas had many injuries and most of all were basicly on paper nowhere near the best teams in the West like Denver, OKC or Wolves before they got Gafford and PJ Washington

And notice i'm saying that for now, SGA should win the MVP this year, my point is just that Luka for me was robbed of the MVP last year for bullshite reasons and excuses like "let's have him a big PO run first and then he will get it the following year for the incredible individual season he had before even if he has an average season for his standards the following season"

Luka will get lots of hype later in the season when he straightens out. Just at the moment he's putting up the worst numbers of his career since his rookie season so it would feel weird hyping him today. But Vegas still has him as the #2 favourite right now so he's not forgotten about or anything like that.

[Wolfgang630]

Who are top 5 in no order?

SGA
Tatum
AD
Joker?
Ja?

[zero rings]

It's quite funny to see the same people who were saying last year that Luka would get it this year because of his PO run and the historical individual season he had now saying it's SGA who should win it this year.
It confirms me they were somehow bullshiting when people like me were telling them that Luka absolutely deserved the MVP LAST YEAR with the individual season he had and even on a collective point of view with his team who were along Boston basicly the best team in NBA after the trades they made and the return of lively from injury.

OKC is expected to be #1 this year, which is why SGA is currently the favourite, as the best player on the best team. Dallas was the #5 seed last year, so it's not the same thing.

Luka has had a very underwhelming start to the season this year, which is why he's not getting hype. At some point he'll heat up, and will start getting hyped for the MVP again.

You just can't use Dallas being #5 seed last year against Luka, in fact it's quite the contrary when you look at the fact that Dallas had many injuries and most of all were basicly on paper nowhere near the best teams in the West like Denver, OKC or Wolves before they got Gafford and PJ Washington

And notice i'm saying that for now, SGA should win the MVP this year, my point is just that Luka for me was robbed of the MVP last year for bullshite reasons and excuses like "let's have him a big PO run first and then he will get it the following year for the incredible individual season he had before even if he has an average season for his standards the following season"

Luka wasn’t robbed. Jokic was flat out better than him, just like he’s been his entire career.

Luka has been very underwhelming through five games, which isn’t that uncommon for him. He’s prone to cold streaks. Has Jokic had a five game stretch this bad in the past four years?

[UcanUwill]

I stopped writing Euroleague recaps, but got to say, Cedi Osman has been huge disappointment, PAO spent over 2 mil on a guy who doesn't even look mid. I hope Lonnie Walker is better, cause my team just signed him, we just won a nail biter so ugly, I hope Walker didn't watch that, cause the level of play was embarrassing there.

[Jaqua92]

Crazy , SGA isn’t A better player than Jokic or Luca, but he’s getting propped up as the MVP

He's not even a better player than Tatum

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[Cavsfansince84]

It's most likely Shai's to lose imo. Tatum will be the other guy getting votes along with Luka.

[Riot Randolph]

It’s MVP KAT’s to lose

[scrabbarista]

There is a player averaging a 30-point triple double while shooting 56/57/78.

[phx#7]

Jokic is awesome.

Watch on YouTube

[CobraCommander]

OKC is expected to be #1 this year, which is why SGA is currently the favourite, as the best player on the best team. Dallas was the #5 seed last year, so it's not the same thing.

Luka has had a very underwhelming start to the season this year, which is why he's not getting hype. At some point he'll heat up, and will start getting hyped for the MVP again.

You just can't use Dallas being #5 seed last year against Luka, in fact it's quite the contrary when you look at the fact that Dallas had many injuries and most of all were basicly on paper nowhere near the best teams in the West like Denver, OKC or Wolves before they got Gafford and PJ Washington

And notice i'm saying that for now, SGA should win the MVP this year, my point is just that Luka for me was robbed of the MVP last year for bullshite reasons and excuses like "let's have him a big PO run first and then he will get it the following year for the incredible individual season he had before even if he has an average season for his standards the following season"

Luka wasn’t robbed. Jokic was flat out better than him, just like he’s been his entire career.

Luka has been very underwhelming through five games, which isn’t that uncommon for him. He’s prone to cold streaks. Has Jokic had a five game stretch this bad in the past four years?

Man people want Luka to get a life time achievement award when last year for the second time in 2 years he finished behind SGA in the MVP. SGA is flat out out playing Luka this year like Jokic outplayed everyone except maybe Embiid last year if he played the full year. Once Embiid got hurt it was a foregone conclusion last year that it was Jokics award. Never not once last year did Luka or SGA sniff Jokic in the MVP award- in fact Embiid was Jokics only comp last year.

[Whateva]

Where is the poll ,?

[Mrakar]

Should be Jokic until he retires...MVP should be most valuable player on every team, that means, difference between that team with that player, and the same team without that player. Nuggets without Jokic are getting top 5 odds for #1 pick.

He will ofc not be, my guess is:

1. Luka(worse record but far better counting stats then SGA and Tatum)
2. SGA
3. Tatum

Right now AD also has a really good case, but im pretty sure that either he will get injured or he will slow down.

[California Gold]

There is a player averaging a 30-point triple double while shooting 56/57/78.

Without the wins they're an empty stat. Voter fatigue will come into play as well. Westbrook won an MVP with that type of statline but this is a different context now with Jokic. Still early though but if the Nuggets arent a top 4 seed in the West, I can't see him winning the MVP even with a stat line like he has.

[ClubLakers KB8]

There is a player averaging a 30-point triple double while shooting 56/57/78.

Without the wins they're an empty stat. Voter fatigue will come into play as well. Westbrook won an MVP with that type of statline but this is a different context now with Jokic. Still early though but if the Nuggets arent a top 4 seed in the West, I can't see him winning the MVP even with a stat line like he has.

This is why the MVP is a ridiculous award for the most part. Logically it should go to the one player who was the best of the best that season, regardless of team success. The best player had the most "value" in the league when contracts are taken out of the equation.

Hell, you can be the undisputed best player on the best team for years running, and then the voters will just decide they're tired of giving it to the same person, so someone else will just have it that year. It loses all meaning when media narratives are a huge factor.

[Eightnineborn]

If Cavs win 60+ games and end up first in the east, Donovan Mitchell should get some love.

[California Gold]

There is a player averaging a 30-point triple double while shooting 56/57/78.

Without the wins they're an empty stat. Voter fatigue will come into play as well. Westbrook won an MVP with that type of statline but this is a different context now with Jokic. Still early though but if the Nuggets arent a top 4 seed in the West, I can't see him winning the MVP even with a stat line like he has.

This is why the MVP is a ridiculous award for the most part. Logically it should go to the one player who was the best of the best that season, regardless of team success. The best player had the most "value" in the league when contracts are taken out of the equation.

Hell, you can be the undisputed best player on the best team for years running, and then the voters will just decide they're tired of giving it to the same person, so someone else will just have it that year. It loses all meaning when media narratives are a huge factor.

Baseball certainly votes that way for their MVPs in each league, sadly the NBA does not. I will give the media this, they're generally consistent with how they vote for MVP. A few exceptions to that.