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Re: Bears 7.0: 2024 Season thread 

Post#1921 » by panthermark » Sat Nov 2, 2024 2:47 pm

As a fan, I'm tired of yelling at Flus/Waldron through the TV "Why did you do that!"
Seems like I've been yelling that for years.

Flus is not a HC, he is a DC that is a shining example of the Peter Principle.
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Re: Bears 7.0: 2024 Season thread 

Post#1922 » by Dresden » Sat Nov 2, 2024 2:49 pm

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Chi town wrote:Stroud looks mediocre when he gets pressure in his face from the interior line. He has the worst in the league in terms of giving up sacks.

Basically what CW deals with weekly.


Basically what CW (AND JUSTIN) dealt with weekly.

Never should have kept Eberflus but if you were going to - there's no reason to draft a rookie franchise QB and pair him with a lame duck HC for the 3rd time in a row.



Eberflus, Getsy, Waldron and Poles arrow is pointed downwards currently.

Monty, Fields and Mooney's arrows are all pointed upwards. When Jenkins walks and figures it out, it will not be a surprise to anybody.


How is Fields arrow pointing up? He couldn't beat out a QB that almost everyone believes is washed up. And what does Jenkins need to do to "figure it out"? That only thing he needs to figure out is how to stay healthy. Mooney was a money thing more than an ability issue, and I think they made the right choice there.

And yes, you can say that at the moment things are looking bad for the current Bears decision makers, but things change week to week in the NFL. Just 7 days ago they were riding a 3 game win streak and everyone was happy.
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Re: Bears 7.0: 2024 Season thread 

Post#1923 » by Jeffster81 » Sat Nov 2, 2024 3:16 pm

Poles arrow pointed down but Fields is pointing up?

Not....a......chance that either is correct. I have very little issues with Poles (OL is the only thing that bothers me about Poles). And Fields is looking like a taller more athletic Tyrod Taylor. A QB who will play for 5+ teams in his career.
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Re: Bears 7.0: 2024 Season thread 

Post#1924 » by Susan » Sat Nov 2, 2024 6:58 pm

Jeffster81 wrote:Poles arrow pointed down but Fields is pointing up?

Not....a......chance that either is correct. I have very little issues with Poles (OL is the only thing that bothers me about Poles). And Fields is looking like a taller more athletic Tyrod Taylor. A QB who will play for 5+ teams in his career.


Fields was 4-2 and got replaced by a clearly rejuvenated Russell Wilson. Before Denver Wilson was a first ballot HOFer. Fields is gunna get an opportunity to start next year, Getsy and Eberflus will likely never be in their current roles.

Keeping Eberflus and pairing him with a rookie QB was wildly stupid. The OL wasn't addressed and the team isn't better than what they were last year without Allen, Swift and Rome.

Caleb's not the issue with the offense, it's the absolute dog crap OL that they've trotted out there. They failed to provide an adequate infrastructure to develop Justin and so far the same can be said for Caleb's development - that falls on Poles.
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Re: Bears 7.0: 2024 Season thread 

Post#1925 » by Susan » Sat Nov 2, 2024 7:03 pm

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Susan wrote:
Chi town wrote:Stroud looks mediocre when he gets pressure in his face from the interior line. He has the worst in the league in terms of giving up sacks.

Basically what CW deals with weekly.


Basically what CW (AND JUSTIN) dealt with weekly.

Never should have kept Eberflus but if you were going to - there's no reason to draft a rookie franchise QB and pair him with a lame duck HC for the 3rd time in a row.



Eberflus, Getsy, Waldron and Poles arrow is pointed downwards currently.

Monty, Fields and Mooney's arrows are all pointed upwards. When Jenkins walks and figures it out, it will not be a surprise to anybody.


How is Fields arrow pointing up? He couldn't beat out a QB that almost everyone believes is washed up. And what does Jenkins need to do to "figure it out"? That only thing he needs to figure out is how to stay healthy. Mooney was a money thing more than an ability issue, and I think they made the right choice there.

And yes, you can say that at the moment things are looking bad for the current Bears decision makers, but things change week to week in the NFL. Just 7 days ago they were riding a 3 game win streak and everyone was happy.


4-2 in the NFL with wins at Denver & Atlanta and at home against LAC is impressive. The Bears beat the 3 worst teams in the NFL in JAX/CAR/TEN and a hobbled LAR team.

Wilson turning back the clock wasn't what I expected but the dude has a decade worth of HOF level QB play.

This team is about to get throttled in the NFC North games. At some point Poles needs Ws.
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Re: Bears 7.0: 2024 Season thread 

Post#1926 » by dice » Sat Nov 2, 2024 8:46 pm

Susan wrote:
Dresden wrote:
Susan wrote:
Basically what CW (AND JUSTIN) dealt with weekly.

Never should have kept Eberflus but if you were going to - there's no reason to draft a rookie franchise QB and pair him with a lame duck HC for the 3rd time in a row.



Eberflus, Getsy, Waldron and Poles arrow is pointed downwards currently.

Monty, Fields and Mooney's arrows are all pointed upwards. When Jenkins walks and figures it out, it will not be a surprise to anybody.


How is Fields arrow pointing up? He couldn't beat out a QB that almost everyone believes is washed up. And what does Jenkins need to do to "figure it out"? That only thing he needs to figure out is how to stay healthy. Mooney was a money thing more than an ability issue, and I think they made the right choice there.

And yes, you can say that at the moment things are looking bad for the current Bears decision makers, but things change week to week in the NFL. Just 7 days ago they were riding a 3 game win streak and everyone was happy.


4-2 in the NFL with wins at Denver & Atlanta and at home against LAC is impressive.

so tomlin said "4-2 is not good enough for this franchise, mr. fields. grab some bench!"

or maybe he was thinking a bit deeper than his team's record
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Re: Bears 7.0: 2024 Season thread 

Post#1927 » by patryk7754 » Sat Nov 2, 2024 8:48 pm

Maybe we should consider swapping Herbert for zeke elliot. Hes a healthy scratch for disciplinary issues. Hes still a good red zone threat which we desperately need
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Post#1928 » by dice » Sat Nov 2, 2024 8:55 pm

Susan wrote:Caleb's not the issue with the offense, it's the absolute dog crap OL that they've trotted out there. They failed to provide an adequate infrastructure to develop Justin and so far the same can be said for Caleb's development - that falls on Poles.

caleb has been a disappointment just as justin was. both were/are most certainly issues w/ the offense. caleb looks better than justin, but was also expected to be

as for the O-line, it performed fine for fields and has not been nearly as bad as you are suggesting this season. tackles have been solid, jenkins good when healthy (as usual). injuries have robbed of continuity and davis has been a huge bust, which could not have reasonably been anticipated at time of signing
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Re: Bears 7.0: 2024 Season thread 

Post#1929 » by dice » Sun Nov 3, 2024 2:05 am

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Post#1930 » by Jeffster81 » Sun Nov 3, 2024 11:47 am

I don't see how anybody can consider Caleb a disappointment right. If you do, then maybe your expectations of Caleb was a bit too high to begin with.
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Post#1931 » by CROBulls » Sun Nov 3, 2024 12:56 pm

Jeffster81 wrote:I don't see how anybody can consider Caleb a disappointment right. If you do, then maybe your expectations of Caleb was a bit too high to begin with.

Caleb is not dissapointment. But in same time he is not generational QB. That's ok. Him not developing further or improving beyond good QB, I will blame soley on Bears (Poles) and their coaches letting him down.
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Re: Bears 7.0: 2024 Season thread 

Post#1932 » by panthermark » Sun Nov 3, 2024 3:49 pm

For me it is too early to say what CW is or isn't.

My biggest gripe with him are is horribly inaccurate passes, especially deep down field. That is one of those "he has it or he doesn't" traits.

Right now he holds on to the ball too long sometimes, some of that is the O-line, some of that is him. But he is also a rookie, so I'm hoping that will improve. He can't get away with the stuff he did in college. He has a slightly higher Sack rate than Fields does (right now), but even Fields got better compared to where he was last year.
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Re: Bears 7.0: 2024 Season thread 

Post#1933 » by Bulls69 » Sun Nov 3, 2024 3:55 pm

patryk7754 wrote:Maybe we should consider swapping Herbert for zeke elliot. Hes a healthy scratch for disciplinary issues. Hes still a good red zone threat which we desperately need

Zeke is trash


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Post#1934 » by Bulls69 » Sun Nov 3, 2024 3:57 pm

Jeffster81 wrote:I don't see how anybody can consider Caleb a disappointment right. If you do, then maybe your expectations of Caleb was a bit too high to begin with.

Folks gets so caught up with Cj Stroud rookie season and whom is actually struggling now


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Re: Bears 7.0: 2024 Season thread 

Post#1935 » by sco » Sun Nov 3, 2024 4:48 pm

Bulls69 wrote:
Jeffster81 wrote:I don't see how anybody can consider Caleb a disappointment right. If you do, then maybe your expectations of Caleb was a bit too high to begin with.

Folks gets so caught up with Cj Stroud rookie season and whom is actually struggling now


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To be fair, Stroud showed that he can be elite if surrounded by great receivers and a good OL. Caleb hasn't demonstrated that level of performance with similar tools.
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Re: Bears 7.0: 2024 Season thread 

Post#1936 » by Dresden » Sun Nov 3, 2024 5:13 pm

sco wrote:
Bulls69 wrote:
Jeffster81 wrote:I don't see how anybody can consider Caleb a disappointment right. If you do, then maybe your expectations of Caleb was a bit too high to begin with.

Folks gets so caught up with Cj Stroud rookie season and whom is actually struggling now


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To be fair, Stroud showed that he can be elite if surrounded by great receivers and a good OL. Caleb hasn't demonstrated that level of performance with similar tools.


Caleb doesn't have a good O line.
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Re: Bears 7.0: 2024 Season thread 

Post#1938 » by Dresden » Sun Nov 3, 2024 6:17 pm

He's going to get shipped out of town if this continues.
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Re: Bears 7.0: 2024 Season thread 

Post#1939 » by Michael Jackson » Sun Nov 3, 2024 6:31 pm

Dresden wrote:He's going to get shipped out of town if this continues.



Yes he will. Dude can't hit for sure but he is not the best coverage guy put there. You were in the wrong suck it up.
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Post#1940 » by molepharmer » Sun Nov 3, 2024 6:43 pm

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