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Re: NBA General Discussion: 24-25 

Post#41 » by Kobblehead » Sat Nov 2, 2024 12:01 pm

Wow, I really hope Giannis isn't seriously considering leaving Milwaukee.
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Post#42 » by Jailblazers7 » Sat Nov 2, 2024 12:11 pm

It would be very funny if the Knicks unloaded their war chest for Bridges/KAT right before Giannis hits the trade market. The ultimate question is whether OKC wants him or not because nobody can match their best offer.
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Post#43 » by GoSixersBro » Sat Nov 2, 2024 1:09 pm

Jailblazers7 wrote:It would be very funny if the Knicks unloaded their war chest for Bridges/KAT right before Giannis hits the trade market. The ultimate question is whether OKC wants him or not because nobody can match their best offer.


Let's be real. NYK did themselves a favor preventing any letdown of "losing" the Giannis sweepstakes. Their fan base is like Arsene Wenger of NBA superstars. "We almost had him!"
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Re: NBA General Discussion: 24-25 

Post#44 » by Stanford » Sat Nov 2, 2024 9:14 pm

We could easily go 1-7 to start the season.
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Post#45 » by 76ciology » Sun Nov 3, 2024 9:18 am



We’ve actually been trying a similar approach before, even playing George Hill and Danny Green at the 3 and 4 positions. This same thinking influenced our drafting of players like Zhaire and Springer. The Warriors use a comparable style with GP2 at the 4 as well.
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Post#46 » by Negrodamus » Sun Nov 3, 2024 2:07 pm



There's no conceivable way this man is available. He's a two way player at 6'8 and plays with effort on both sides of the ball. If he's hitting shots like this, then why would they ever trade him? I'd trade most of the Rockets roster before trading him. He's the ideal type player you want on your team.
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Post#47 » by Kobblehead » Sun Nov 3, 2024 2:30 pm

I don't see any of the Rockets draftees being available.

I think the earliest Jabari Smith or Tari Eason would be available for the right price would be 2026.
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Post#48 » by Negrodamus » Sun Nov 3, 2024 2:38 pm

I don't know if there's a separation in decision making between the Rockets draft picks and the free agent signings, but if there is, boy, they couldn't be more on the opposite ends of the spectrum.

While the top picks haven't all be home runs (Jabari, Green, Whitmore), they are still at least good or have promise and their later picks (Sengun, Eason) have been killer.

Meanwhile, they sink $40+ mil per year on a 5'10 inefficient chucker and $20+ mil per year on a radioactive forward who is trash on offense. Both of which are taking minutes, and shots, from their recent top picks (Sheppard and Thompson). What a monumental failure on their part.
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Post#49 » by 76ciology » Sun Nov 3, 2024 2:46 pm

Negrodamus wrote:

There's no conceivable way this man is available. He's a two way player at 6'8 and plays with effort on both sides of the ball. If he's hitting shots like this, then why would they ever trade him? I'd trade most of the Rockets roster before trading him. He's the ideal type player you want on your team.


Rockets fans are calling for him to start over Jabari Smith.

In the end, If nothing change, I expect them to ask for a trade to get more opportunity.
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Post#50 » by Kobblehead » Sun Nov 3, 2024 2:48 pm

Negrodamus wrote:I don't know if there's a separation in decision making between the Rockets draft picks and the free agent signings, but if there is, boy, they couldn't be more on the opposite ends of the spectrum.

While the top picks haven't all be home runs (Jabari, Green, Whitmore), they are still at least good or have promise and their later picks (Sengun, Eason) have been killer.

Meanwhile, they sink $40+ mil per year on a 5'10 inefficient chucker and $20+ mil per year on a radioactive forward who is trash on offense. Both of which are taking minutes, and shots, from their recent top picks (Sheppard and Thompson). What a monumental failure on their part.

If I recall, it was a weird situation where they were like $100m below the salary floor so they decided they just needed to overpay two starters from other teams.
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Post#51 » by Negrodamus » Sun Nov 3, 2024 3:07 pm

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Negrodamus wrote:I don't know if there's a separation in decision making between the Rockets draft picks and the free agent signings, but if there is, boy, they couldn't be more on the opposite ends of the spectrum.

While the top picks haven't all be home runs (Jabari, Green, Whitmore), they are still at least good or have promise and their later picks (Sengun, Eason) have been killer.

Meanwhile, they sink $40+ mil per year on a 5'10 inefficient chucker and $20+ mil per year on a radioactive forward who is trash on offense. Both of which are taking minutes, and shots, from their recent top picks (Sheppard and Thompson). What a monumental failure on their part.

If I recall, it was a weird situation where they were like $100m below the salary floor so they decided they just needed to overpay two starters from other teams.


That's fair, but you have to know that's going to happen if you're the FO, right? You can't give multi year massive contracts to two duds. Maybe they provide something special in the locker room that I don't see.
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Re: NBA General Discussion: 24-25 

Post#52 » by Kobblehead » Sun Nov 3, 2024 3:22 pm

LMAO, the google AI overview when I typed in "why did the rockets sign dillon brooks" says:

The Houston Rockets signed Dillon Brooks in the 2023 offseason to improve their defense and help their young players develop:

Defensive presence: Brooks is a strong defender who was named to the 2022-23 All-Defensive second team.

Veteran leadership: Brooks was part of a group of veterans brought in to help change the team's culture.

Needed a starter: Brooks is a likely starter at small forward.


So I guess that's it.
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Post#53 » by 76ciology » Sun Nov 3, 2024 4:45 pm

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Mobility and quickness looks OK to me. His reads are a bit slow, but I think he’ll be better with experience. Seems like a smart kid.

The only laggard on my bet for now is Brice Sensabaugh, he just needs more PT.
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Post#54 » by 76ciology » Sun Nov 3, 2024 4:52 pm

Kobblehead wrote:LMAO, the google AI overview when I typed in "why did the rockets sign dillon brooks" says:

The Houston Rockets signed Dillon Brooks in the 2023 offseason to improve their defense and help their young players develop:

Defensive presence: Brooks is a strong defender who was named to the 2022-23 All-Defensive second team.

Veteran leadership: Brooks was part of a group of veterans brought in to help change the team's culture.

Needed a starter: Brooks is a likely starter at small forward.


So I guess that's it.


My guess on why the Rockets invested in Brooks and FVV is that they’re aiming to follow the Celtics’ blueprint. The talent is already there, but what they need is the culture Ime Udoka wants to establish and that’s what Dillon and FVV bring. I see both guys like what Marcus Smart and Al Horford’s role was with the Celts squad.
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Post#55 » by WentzerWuver » Sun Nov 3, 2024 5:15 pm

76ciology wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:LMAO, the google AI overview when I typed in "why did the rockets sign dillon brooks" says:

The Houston Rockets signed Dillon Brooks in the 2023 offseason to improve their defense and help their young players develop:

Defensive presence: Brooks is a strong defender who was named to the 2022-23 All-Defensive second team.

Veteran leadership: Brooks was part of a group of veterans brought in to help change the team's culture.

Needed a starter: Brooks is a likely starter at small forward.


So I guess that's it.


My guess on why the Rockets invested in Brooks and FVV is that they’re aiming to follow the Celtics’ blueprint. The talent is already there, but what they need is the culture Ime Udoka wants to establish and that’s what Dillon and FVV bring. I see both guys like what Marcus Smart and Al Horford’s role was with the Celts squad.
Brooks offers nothing other than being an enforcers that get rattled as much as he rattle opposing players. No other team needs that cause this is NOT the pre 2000 where enforcers are needed, so they basically overbid against themselves Lol

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That money could have gone to Harden who is still a fan favorite to help them more offensively. Udoka blew it and he knows it.
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Post#56 » by MikRay » Mon Nov 4, 2024 7:00 pm

Stanford wrote:We could easily go 1-7 to start the season.


I think we will unfortunately :banghead:
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Re: NBA General Discussion: 24-25 

Post#57 » by GoSixersBro » Mon Nov 4, 2024 7:17 pm

So Caruso goes to a good team and is now Thybulle.
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Post#58 » by 76ciology » Tue Nov 5, 2024 2:37 am

Divicenzo will eventually start with Ant. He played 70% of his minutes at the PG position. Ant jacks up 14 3s per game. Divicenzo jacked 10 3s a game last year.
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Post#59 » by Sixteen » Tue Nov 5, 2024 2:54 am

Bucks are ran almost as poorly as us. After seeing Doc fizzle out in LA and most recently here, why did they think hiring him to be their coach was a good idea? They're extremely fortunate Giannis was healthy enough to ball out and push them over a Suns team that quite frankly, wasn't the best team in the west that season.
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Post#60 » by 76ciology » Tue Nov 5, 2024 2:58 am

Here’s what I’ve observed in the first few games:

- A lot of hunting mismatches
- Taking 40–50 3pt attempts
- Using a stretch 5 to clear the paint
- Crashing offensive boards
- Placing wing defenders on opposing point guards
- Added a lot of value on players who can take 10 3s and make good %

Better spacing opens up driving lanes to the basket, and more effective mismatch attacks lead to higher quality open looks from three.

Strong offensive rebounding creates extra chances for those threes.

Meanwhile, a solid wing defender on the opposing guard disrupts their ability to create mismatches.

Teams adjusting to how refs call the game.
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