Should we separate ourselves from Drake?

[LoveMyRaps]

I'm not a big Drake guy but I agree that raising Derozan's jersey is a concept worth ridicule.

Siakam deserves it a lot more.

[Tha Cynic]

It might be wise before something really comes out. All the writing is on the wall.

A large contingent of drake fans don’t want to believe there is any writing on the wall.

Apparently groping underage girls on stage, texting 14 year olds about “boys”, Baka in general, the Bella Harris stuff, etc. is not any “smoke”.

When guys like Demar abandon him and don’t stand up for him it just provides more legitimacy to those other claims that were made against him.

Like come on guys - just admit that there is a lot of weird stuff surrounding drake. You’re 100% right there is no “concrete proof” but there’s enough smoke to make you stop and kind of go “hmmmm”. The reality is that your perception is almost as relevant as reality. The perception is that drake is a weirdo at best, a possible groomer, and a predator at worst. Not exactly a ringing endorsement.

I can't believe I'm defending Drake, especially after his cringe comments on air during a basketball game, but..

Just to play devil's advocate here since I think it's very easy to create narratives on the internet - wasn't that girl at a concert where everyone was supposed to be 18+? Would Drake have known she was underage?

Didn't DeRozan say he has love for drake even after dancing on stage and only seems annoyed after Drake made the comment about pulling down his retirement banner?

As for Bell Harris, both denied it and her dad even came out and defended Drake after. Does that seem like the actions of a father who suspects anything? He even indicated people are coming together to try to character assassinate him which imo is way more likely. Jealousy is a real thing. Eminem warned Drake about this and 50 Cent is really cool with him. In the rap industry, those two have kept out of the real serious stuff and seem to be way more intelligent than most.

Also Jessie Reyes literally posted that moment Drake made those comments about her on her own instagram.

I mean this is the internet where they take one picture of a white couple visiting Africa a few years ago and then paste a current picture of white woman with black child insinuating that white woman got impregnated there when really what she did was adopt a child.

Drake is being pretty free flowing for a guy who has anything to hide, especially given the Diddy situation. I think this is just the internet doing what the internet does.

[YogurtProducer]

It might be wise before something really comes out. All the writing is on the wall.

A large contingent of drake fans don’t want to believe there is any writing on the wall.

Apparently groping underage girls on stage, texting 14 year olds about “boys”, Baka in general, the Bella Harris stuff, etc. is not any “smoke”.

When guys like Demar abandon him and don’t stand up for him it just provides more legitimacy to those other claims that were made against him.

Like come on guys - just admit that there is a lot of weird stuff surrounding drake. You’re 100% right there is no “concrete proof” but there’s enough smoke to make you stop and kind of go “hmmmm”. The reality is that your perception is almost as relevant as reality. The perception is that drake is a weirdo at best, a possible groomer, and a predator at worst. Not exactly a ringing endorsement.

I can't believe I'm defending Drake, especially after his cringe comments on air during a basketball game, but..

Just to play devil's advocate here since I think it's very easy to create narratives on the internet - wasn't that girl at a concert where everyone was supposed to be 18+? Would Drake have known she was underage?

Didn't DeRozan say he has love for drake even after dancing on stage and only seems annoyed after Drake made the comment about pulling down his retirement banner?

As for Bell Harris, both denied it and her dad even came out and defended Drake after. Does that seem like the actions of a father who suspects anything? He even indicated people are coming together to try to character assassinate him which imo is way more likely. Jealousy is a real thing. Eminem warned Drake about this and 50 Cent is really cool with him. In the rap industry, those two have kept out of the real serious stuff and seem to be way more intelligent than most.

Also Jessie Reyes literally posted that moment Drake made those comments about her on her own instagram.

I mean this is the internet where they take one picture of a white couple visiting Africa a few years ago and then paste a current picture of white woman with black child insinuating that white woman got impregnated there when really what she did was adopt a child.

Drake is being pretty free flowing for a guy who has anything to hide, especially given the Diddy situation. I think this is just the internet doing what the internet does.

I have no clue on the age requirements - I just remember him finding out she was 17 and still making a weird ass coment.

I also know there is absolutely no situation a grown man should be texting 14 year olds "about boys".

Bella Harris can deny all she wants, we all see the weird ass photos he took with her. But either way, there was also countless people who knew and defended Weinstein/Epstein/Diddy who all (hopefully) are way more guilty than Drake is. That is not to say there is nothing there.

Again, there is enough "weird stuff" that makes everything Drake was accused of extremely, extremely, believable. Especially when his defense was "I am to famous to get away with that" (uhhh see the 3 names I just posted above) and "lol you were molested as a child, that's why you are calling me a predator" (fundamental misunderstanding of Mother I Sober). Drake to me screams a guy in 20 years that were gonna find out crazy **** about and it'll be like yeah... he did not hide it really at all.

[MoneyMo]

Bella Harris

https://www.tmz.com/2018/09/14/drake-no-date-model-bella-harris/

Drake
No Date With 18-Year-Old Model

Her dad defending Drake (producer Jimmy Jam liked the below comment)



Millie Bobby Brown



Tia Jayed



Lil CC

https://www.tiktok.com/@drakeglazer6/video/7366671152812543274



The Millie Bobby Brown one is funny, but we don't know if he had malicious intent. He could have been giving her advice from one child actor to another. Either way, that's her story to tell.

Allegations like that can't be taken seriously without proof. All 'victims" have come out defending him. Chances are high that if he was really doing that kind of stuff, the flood gates would have opened up by now. I guess, time will tell but you can't take anything in a "rap beef' as gospel. Both sides engaged in hypocritical mudslinging.

If anything Drake just needs to stop being so friendly with girls/woman and move smarter. The fact is however, a lot of his music is catered to woman so young girls naturally like him and wanna take overly "friendly" pics with him.

[TimeForChange]

I'm not a big Drake guy but I agree that raising Derozan's jersey is a concept worth ridicule.

Siakam deserves it a lot more.

I hate fred more than anyone but he deserves it more than Debum.

Putting up a banner for a person known for being a perennial loser

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

I'm not a big Drake guy but I agree that raising Derozan's jersey is a concept worth ridicule.

Siakam deserves it a lot more.

I hate fred more than anyone but he deserves it more than Debum.

Putting up a banner for a person known for being a perennial loser

Um, hate to brake it to you about Vince.

[TimeForChange]

Siakam deserves it a lot more.

I hate fred more than anyone but he deserves it more than Debum.

Putting up a banner for a person known for being a perennial loser

Um, hate to brake it to you about Vince.

vince got recognized because he was the first player to enter the HOF as a raptor,

if vince goes into the hall as a net, do you think they raise his banner?

and yes the organization and vince have been discussing this for a long time.

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

I hate fred more than anyone but he deserves it more than Debum.

Putting up a banner for a person known for being a perennial loser

Um, hate to brake it to you about Vince.

vince got recognized because he was the first player to enter the HOF as a raptor,

if vince goes into the hall as a net, do you think they raise his banner?

and yes the organization and vince have been discussing this for a long time.

He's the guy you know for winning a dunk competition. Oh, and dunking on a French guy.

[MoneyMo]

A large contingent of drake fans don’t want to believe there is any writing on the wall.

Apparently groping underage girls on stage, texting 14 year olds about “boys”, Baka in general, the Bella Harris stuff, etc. is not any “smoke”.

When guys like Demar abandon him and don’t stand up for him it just provides more legitimacy to those other claims that were made against him.

Like come on guys - just admit that there is a lot of weird stuff surrounding drake. You’re 100% right there is no “concrete proof” but there’s enough smoke to make you stop and kind of go “hmmmm”. The reality is that your perception is almost as relevant as reality. The perception is that drake is a weirdo at best, a possible groomer, and a predator at worst. Not exactly a ringing endorsement.

I can't believe I'm defending Drake, especially after his cringe comments on air during a basketball game, but..

Just to play devil's advocate here since I think it's very easy to create narratives on the internet - wasn't that girl at a concert where everyone was supposed to be 18+? Would Drake have known she was underage?

Didn't DeRozan say he has love for drake even after dancing on stage and only seems annoyed after Drake made the comment about pulling down his retirement banner?

As for Bell Harris, both denied it and her dad even came out and defended Drake after. Does that seem like the actions of a father who suspects anything? He even indicated people are coming together to try to character assassinate him which imo is way more likely. Jealousy is a real thing. Eminem warned Drake about this and 50 Cent is really cool with him. In the rap industry, those two have kept out of the real serious stuff and seem to be way more intelligent than most.

Also Jessie Reyes literally posted that moment Drake made those comments about her on her own instagram.

I mean this is the internet where they take one picture of a white couple visiting Africa a few years ago and then paste a current picture of white woman with black child insinuating that white woman got impregnated there when really what she did was adopt a child.

Drake is being pretty free flowing for a guy who has anything to hide, especially given the Diddy situation. I think this is just the internet doing what the internet does.

I have no clue on the age requirements - I just remember him finding out she was 17 and still making a weird ass coment.

I also know there is absolutely no situation a grown man should be texting 14 year olds "about boys".

Bella Harris can deny all she wants, we all see the weird ass photos he took with her. But either way, there was also countless people who knew and defended Weinstein/Epstein/Diddy who all (hopefully) are way more guilty than Drake is. That is not to say there is nothing there.

Again, there is enough "weird stuff" that makes everything Drake was accused of extremely, extremely, believable. Especially when his defense was "I am to famous to get away with that" (uhhh see the 3 names I just posted above) and "lol you were molested as a child, that's why you are calling me a predator" (fundamental misunderstanding of Mother I Sober). Drake to me screams a guy in 20 years that were gonna find out crazy **** about and it'll be like yeah... he did not hide it really at all.

The difference is those guys had actual victim allegations dating back years before they were charged.

Weinstein was paying women off since 1990. Epstein was investigated in 2005, and first charged for molestation in 2006. Diddy was first accused publicly in 2017.

Drake doesn't have any accusers. He has "weird" interactions with girls/women, but it remains to be seen if they are sinister. If they were, this past summer would have been the perfect opportunity to come out. The opposite of that happened.

[WaltFrazier]

Don't think we need to distance ourselves from Drake, if anything his popularity can only help the organization. Obviously, if any of the Twitter rumours or things from the Lamar rap battle regarding minors turned out to be true, then he has to be removed. But you can't take what's said on Twitter or during a rap battle at face value, and so far there's no concrete evidence.

I do think Drake's comments about DeRozan were obviously inappropriate & untimely, and that someone who's connected to the organization and Drake should pull him aside and express that. Also, Sportsnet/TSN should now only do the Drake commentating in the 1st half of games when he's had less juice and hopefully better judgement.

Better still, never have him on the mic again during a game.

The team severing the relationship is one thing, but before that, he has no business being on a mic with Matt/Jack. I was going to add, or Matt/Alvin, but has he ever been on during a Sportsnet game? Not sure if he and Alvin have any kind of rapport.

[Boselecta]

So now you guys are ready to discard Drake with no evidence brought forward for any crime..after his likeness stimulated the entire economy. Somebody will probably deny this.

Typical Toronto cut throat behavior. Drake is arguably the biggest artist in the world and still shows his face to this **** show out of love. His influence has made the raptors a top team social media wise and still relevant. He gets nothing reputation wise from being partnered with the raptors and people want to get rid of him

[basketball royalty]

The whole "bring Drake on the air " thing was cute at first. Now it's getting old, & he is getting more annoying each time he comes on. I was never a big fan of him (i like some of his music). Now I'm at the point where I am thinking "why the hell are you putting this guy on the air". He's always half drunk & it's kind of embarrassing at this point.

Plus, I like.Demar & respect him much more than Drake.

Him talking about pulling Demars jersey down. Who do you think you are.

This is pretty spot on with my stance. I’d side with Drake on this ‘rap battle’ simply because he reps Toronto but Not like us is a good song. It’s really not important and just entertainment.

However, attacking DD on air and mean mugging him all game like Birdy in Above the Rim, is simply classless. He’s rich as **** 38 year old celebrity who never was about that life. Why do this wankster bull now or at all?

[Kingsway_fan]

Siakam deserves it a lot more.

I hate fred more than anyone but he deserves it more than Debum.

Putting up a banner for a person known for being a perennial loser

Um, hate to brake it to you about Vince.

Only loser i see is you. Oh, The village called.. they want their idiot back. Oh, and your mommy called ... she says you can live in her basement rent free , until you get a job... or a girlfriend, --- whatever comes first.

warned personal attack

[ThatClockWork]

The answer is a clear yes and my preference. At the end of the day, he made some bad moves and decided to once again take his grievances out in a very public manner. This should hopefully (and at bare minimum) be the last time we hear him on a live broadcast, period.

While I am not convinced we should be raising Demar's jersey up, I would rather have that happen than continue to associate with Drake incorporated.

Whenever Drake makes a bet, the opposite side wins. Why do you think this time would be any different?

So now you guys are ready to discard Drake with no evidence brought forward for any crime..after his likeness stimulated the entire economy. Somebody will probably deny this.

Akademiks, is that you?

If you are going to be the representative for a large brand name like the Raptors, you become damaged goods when you choose to participate in behavior that can damage the brand. The ambassador is expected to harbor good will and bring people together, not use his position to take aim amid a personal vendetta ... (I realize saying this after the US election results are looking to be in favor of Trump and what he is going to try to do to that judge next is ... anyways).

On Drake stimulating the entire economy, do you want to go ahead and expand on that statement, champ?

Typical Toronto cut throat behavior. Drake is arguably the biggest artist in the world and still shows his face to this **** show out of love. His influence has made the raptors a top team social media wise and still relevant. He gets nothing reputation wise from being partnered with the raptors and people want to get rid of him

This argument is misguided on so many levels. I contend that Drake did nothing at any point to make the Raptors relevant. At all.

Please provide me with clear examples of how Drake has *ever* made the Raptors relevant.

I hate fred more than anyone but he deserves it more than Debum.

Putting up a banner for a person known for being a perennial loser

Um, hate to brake it to you about Vince.

The organization disagrees with your assessment on Vince. You are just going to have to hold that L, forever.

[Stromile12]

The whole "bring Drake on the air " thing was cute at first. Now it's getting old, & he is getting more annoying each time he comes on. I was never a big fan of him (i like some of his music). Now I'm at the point where I am thinking "why the hell are you putting this guy on the air". He's always half drunk & it's kind of embarrassing at this point.

Plus, I like.Demar & respect him much more than Drake.

Him talking about pulling Demars jersey down. Who do you think you are.

This is pretty spot on with my stance. I’d side with Drake on this ‘rap battle’ simply because he reps Toronto but Not like us is a good song. It’s really not important and just entertainment.

However, attacking DD on air and mean mugging him all game like Birdy in Above the Rim, is simply classless. He’s rich as **** 38 year old celebrity who never was about that life. Why do this wankster bull now or at all?

Mean mugging like birdy from Above the Rim is hilarious

[will]

Aubrey being a hot mess the other game was jokes. He brings in too much money to just let him go.

[fbalmeida]

He rarely attends games, called our players clowns, and threatened to remove a potential DeRozan banner from the Scotiabank Arena's rafters.

I say can his ass, buy him out, and remove any semblance of his name or trademarks from our beloved franchise.