PG: Jazz beat Bulls

[Dan Z]

What are the Bulls goals? Tanking? Fighting for the play-in? Other?

What's the plan for the future?

You're assuming the front office has goals

Keeping your job is a goal

At a certain point who cares? Might as well take some risks or at least have a plan. Otherwise nobody is giving them another FO job.

Hanging on and being bad at the job doesnt help with future endeavors.

[BullChit]

Let me adjust my tinfoil

We will beat the good teams to shown we aren't f**king around...

And lose to the bad teams to take a loss away from their tank effort....

[Mk0]

You're assuming the front office has goals

Keeping your job is a goal

At a certain point who cares? Might as well take some risks or at least have a plan. Otherwise nobody is giving them another FO job.

Hanging on and being bad at the job doesnt help with future endeavors.

Counterpoint, Jerry doesn't fire anyone who is a company man. If AKME manage to get him some playoff revenue he is happy as a pig in sh#%.

The FO is bullet-proof until the home game attendance drops.

They had a plan, it blew up when Lonzo got hurt and they doubled-down on staying the course. We are at the end of that double-down this season. We won't know wtf these dudes have in mind until we see how our lotto balls sort out but for their job security it is better to keep Jerry happy and aim for a first round knock out.

[MalagaBulls]

Let me adjust my tinfoil

We will beat the good teams to shown we aren't f**king around...

And lose to the bad teams to take a loss away from their tank effort....

At least we have the Bears, oh wait....

[Dan Z]

Keeping your job is a goal

At a certain point who cares? Might as well take some risks or at least have a plan. Otherwise nobody is giving them another FO job.

Hanging on and being bad at the job doesnt help with future endeavors.

Counterpoint, Jerry doesn't fire anyone who is a company man. If AKME manage to get him some playoff revenue he is happy as a pig in sh#%.

The FO is bullet-proof until the home game attendance drops.

They had a plan, it blew up when Lonzo got hurt and they doubled-down on staying the course. We are at the end of that double-down this season. We won't know wtf these dudes have in mind until we see how our lotto balls sort out but for their job security it is better to keep Jerry happy and aim for a first round knock out.

If the lottery helps them but they could end up in the play-in again....

I agree that Jerry keeps his FO for too long, but what's the point for AKME? Work for 6 years and then have a bad resume?

[HomoSapien]

I thought Pat was disappointing out there. He got lost on defense quite a few times, picked up silly fouls, and had no presence on the glass. He is not an effective four.

[WindyCityBorn]

30 wins max. Which is a good thing long term.

[dougthonus]

I don't care so much about Bulls wins, but I think you have to play Jalen Smith more if you're trying to win. He and Vuc, the way they are playing, are actually two of our better shooters, and Jalen is our only good interior defender.

The Jazz were going big pretty much all night, so it made sense for us to match up like this and yet we were running THT out there on John Collins in crunch time.

[Ccwatercraft]

What are the Bulls goals? Tanking? Fighting for the play-in? Other?

What's the plan for the future?

Couldn't watch the game but followed the stats.That
was another winnable game .
Why Zach and Ball didn't play?
Tanking strategy??

Both are injured right now.

[kodo]

I thought Pat was disappointing out there. He got lost on defense quite a few times, picked up silly fouls, and had no presence on the glass. He is not an effective four.

Zero D on this. Collins gets the ball at 35' and just walks in a straight line for a dunk against Pat.

https://thehighlow.io/video/ids?ids=25ELkD

[kodo]

I don't care so much about Bulls wins, but I think you have to play Jalen Smith more if you're trying to win. He and Vuc, the way they are playing, are actually two of our better shooters, and Jalen is our only good interior defender.

The Jazz were going big pretty much all night, so it made sense for us to match up like this and yet we were running THT out there on John Collins in crunch time.

Jalen has been on fire to start the season.
Jalen Smith per 36: 27 points, 15 rebounds, 53% FG, 53% 3P.
I can't remember the last Bull that had a PER of 26.

Can definitely see some of the reasons he was picked #10.
Very cheap contract for 4 years too.

[vxmike]

I thought Pat was disappointing out there. He got lost on defense quite a few times, picked up silly fouls, and had no presence on the glass. He is not an effective four.

Pat isn’t a 4 he’s a 0.

It just looks like he’s not even out there on the court. Terrible contract.

[vxmike]

I don't care so much about Bulls wins, but I think you have to play Jalen Smith more if you're trying to win. He and Vuc, the way they are playing, are actually two of our better shooters, and Jalen is our only good interior defender.

The Jazz were going big pretty much all night, so it made sense for us to match up like this and yet we were running THT out there on John Collins in crunch time.

Agree just give Smith some minutes at PF next to Vuc. Williams isn’t a starting caliber player.

[MrSparkle]

So sick of this league-worst front court and Billy pushing it. Pat and Vuc are career losers. Giddey doesn’t help by being a human scarecrow. Low PPG, non-existent rim protection, no intimidation, low energy. It’s been a rough few years. AK is a bad guy.

[step]

What are the Bulls goals? Tanking? Fighting for the play-in? Other?

What's the plan for the future?

The plan for the future is to possibly win the next game, unless they lose.

Ugh. How much longer will AKME be here?

Hopefully only until the T-Wolves saga plays out and we get the apt Nugget successor, Connelly.

I’m not gonna get upset about this loss but when the f*** did Talen Horton Tucker become our sixth man?? 28 minutes? What are we doing

Good preview of how bad we can be without Zach. Cooper Flagg please save us.

Btw Vuc knows playing well is his only way out, hes ballin, someone will take his contract off our hands if he can keep going

If only....

[samwana]

At least we have a good coach that develops our 'hope for the future' guys and gets the best out of our roster. The adjustment to give THT 28 minutes was a great decision, because of his size and it made perfect sense to sit Jalen Smith, he would have been too big to play next to Vuc.

[Muzbar]

So sick of this league-worst front court and Billy pushing it. Pat and Vuc are career losers. Giddey doesn’t help by being a human scarecrow. Low PPG, non-existent rim protection, no intimidation, low energy. It’s been a rough few years. AK is a bad guy.

BuT, hE dOn'T mIsS...

[SfBull]

I’m not gonna get upset about this loss but when the f*** did Talen Horton Tucker become our sixth man?? 28 minutes? What are we doing

Good preview of how bad we can be without Zach. Cooper Flagg please save us.

Btw Vuc knows playing well is his only way out, hes ballin, someone will take his contract off our hands if he can keep going

I'm tired of hoping for saviors coming off the draft, that is a lazy and dumb strategy.

Sometimes it feels like it is our only way out. Happened with MJ and then with Rose. If we don't strike gold in the draft we are doomed for middle of the road records (at best) and an early playoff loss. Just like Jerry likes it.

We won't strike gold with guys like AKME drafting players, we'll end up with players like Pat and Terry with no star ceiling.
There's no meaning in tanking with this FO.

[Ice Man]

I've been a Billy defender, because the criticisms of his late-game tactics have been off base, but at some polnt the coach needs to be held responsible for a team digging itself a first half hole, game after game. We are at that point now -- in fact, past it.

[dougthonus]

Counterpoint, Jerry doesn't fire anyone who is a company man. If AKME manage to get him some playoff revenue he is happy as a pig in sh#%.

We've had fewer home playoff games in any four year period under AKME than any period since the post Jordan Krause era, and that is true while making a concerted effort to make the playoffs each year, while both other times we had similarly poor playoff draughts we were intentionally collecting assets.

The FO is bullet-proof until the home game attendance drops.

I think fans say this, but I think it's way more nuanced than that. The team interest and performance matters. We always announce sell outs, but if you go to the game, you know those numbers are juiced by 25% giveaways to charity and you're losing money on how much you can sell radio/tv ads for as well as parking/concessions/merch, etc..

So I don't think this is wrong in spirit, but I don't think its really straight attendance they are looking at.

They had a plan, it blew up when Lonzo got hurt and they doubled-down on staying the course. We are at the end of that double-down this season. We won't know wtf these dudes have in mind until we see how our lotto balls sort out but for their job security it is better to keep Jerry happy and aim for a first round knock out.

If you could consistently get 1st round knockouts, that is probably be true. We haven't done that. We've missed the playoffs in 3 of the 4 years these guys have been here, and will likely miss this year which would tie the playoff resume of the end of the GarPax era (4 out of 5 misses) when they were tanking to build assets in 3 of those years.