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[WentzerWuver]

Once Embiid is back Yabusele should be the starting PF and Oubre come from the bench.

That's a dumb suggestion and should never happen unless the goal is to make the 5 hottest players as starters regardless of position Lol. Like replacing a 2 in Oubre Jr with Yabu as 4 makes so much sense Lol. Kelly scored 28 points with 5 3s over a week ago showing why he is an ideal backcourt mate with Maxey, so I don't care of he struggles with inconsistencies early in the season.

https://youtube.com/shorts/6ES-5HeN-Mw?si=mq8nBIAgH_kok4TB

https://youtu.be/wlghAiJvWVM?si=IPa456Birv1QN7Y_

Yubu should be our 6 man replacing any player for that spark off the bench. Nurse has always been good with setting ideal rotations over any of us noobs and highly doubt Yuba would ever be in the starting unit. He is like Kuminga providing GS with a big spark off the bench and it's working for them in spades!

[Murray_17]

Once Embiid is back Yabusele should be the starting PF and Oubre come from the bench.

That's a dumb suggestion and should never happen unless the goal is to make the 5 hottest players as starters regardless of position Lol. Like replacing a 2 in Oubre Jr with Yabu as 4 makes so much sense Lol. Kelly scored 28 points with 5 3s over a week ago showing why he is an ideal backcourt mate with Maxey, so I don't care of he struggles with inconsistencies early in the season.

Guy is a bad 3 point shooter, no matter how you put it, on top of that he's highly inefficient and takes a lot of shots.

It doesn't matter if he's a 2, we're currently playing wings to cover the PF poisition.

[WentzerWuver]

Guy is a bad 3 point shooter, no matter how you put it, on top of that he's highly inefficient and takes a lot of shots.

It doesn't matter if he's a 2, we're currently playing wings to cover the PF poisition.

Oubre is a streaky shooter, NOT a bad shooter. When he's hot, it's scary. This is Yuba first year playing in the league and would be overwhelmed as a starter. He's very comfortable coming off the bench like Kuminga has, who also struggled as a starter. One thing I would never do is question Nurse's rotation. I do question his play calling at times but maybe you want Doc back who would make Yuba a starter cause he's hot now which is why the Bucks are struggling cause their bench sucks.

[Murray_17]

Oubre is a streaky shooter, NOT a bad shooter. When he's hot, it's scary. .

He's a bad shooter, he's a 30% career shooter and is shooting 29% across the first 6 games.

That's bad, no matter how you put it.

[WentzerWuver]

Oubre is a streaky shooter, NOT a bad shooter. When he's hot, it's scary. .

He's a bad shooter, he's a 30% career shooter and is shooting 29% across the first 6 games.

That's bad, no matter how you put it.

You just don't get it. Putting all bad shooters on the bench would destroy teams. It requires balance unless.you want all these good shooting starters to take shots away from the Big 3. The sooner you realize this, the more informed you will be, which may not be possible for you. Nurse understands this completely which is why he is the coach and not you.

[76ciology]

Leading up to that Maxey floater where he drew a foul but only made 1 of 2 free throws, we had a series of missed opportunities:

Yabu traveled
Oubre blocked point blank shot in transition
Yabu missed an open left corner 3
Oubre turned it over in the right corner
Caleb Martin missed an open baseline jumper

The rest of the team needs to step up and make big plays in crucial moments. I can see opponents choosing to force our role players to beat them, just like we would trap Brunson and make Josh Hart the shooter to try to win the series for the Knicks.

George’s shot was in and out. A well taken, very makeable attempt. However, we might have been better off running an action with Maxey as the primary option off a screen play like what M2J mentioned, leaving George’s ISO as a backup plan. But again, its a very makeable shot.

[Murray_17]

You just don't get it. Putting all bad shooters on the bench would destroy teams. It requires balance unless.you want all these good shooting starters to take shots away from the Big 3. The sooner you realize this, the more informed you will be, which may not be possible for you. Nurse understands this completely which is why he is the coach and not you.

SO, first he was a lethal striker shooter and now bad shooters need just a chance.?

I don't want him taking shoots he's prone to shoot, defenses are gonna let him take shoots because guess what.....he's inefficient and prone to taking bad shoots

[WentzerWuver]

You just don't get it. Putting all bad shooters on the bench would destroy teams. It requires balance unless.you want all these good shooting starters to take shots away from the Big 3. The sooner you realize this, the more informed you will be, which may not be possible for you. Nurse understands this completely which is why he is the coach and not you.

SO, first he was a lethal striker shooter and now bad shooters need just a chance.?

I don't want him taking shoots he's prone to shoot, defenses are gonna let him take shoots because guess what.....he's inefficient and prone to taking bad shoots

Seems like fans only care about for the starters are scoring and nothing else. Oubre Jr. does so much more, but scoring is what matters to you. So are you accusing Nurse on not knowing how to set up the best lineup card for this team as well?

Yuba needs to be that spark off the bench, not Oubre Jr.

[Murray_17]

Seems like fans only care about for the starters are scoring and nothing else. Oubre Jr. does so much more, but scoring is what matters to you. So are you accusing Nurse on not knowing how to set up the best lineup card for this team as well?

What else does Oubre so amazingly? he's an average/mediocre defender, average rebounder and ball hog

You're the one arguing that not starting is some kind of big offense and disgrace...my point is that he not starting would optimize the starting line up when Embiid is healthy and would allow Oubre to jack off shots from the bench, which suits him better.

I'm not accusing Nurse of anything either.

What a bizarro argument.

[WentzerWuver]

Seems like fans only care about for the starters are scoring and nothing else. Oubre Jr. does so much more, but scoring is what matters to you. So are you accusing Nurse on not knowing how to set up the best lineup card for this team as well?

What else does Oubre so amazingly? he's an average/mediocre defender, average rebounder and ball hog

You're the one arguing that not starting is some kind of big offense and disgrace...my point is that he not starting would optimize the starting line up when Embiid is healthy and would allow Oubre to jack off shots from the bench, which suits him better.

I'm not accusing Nurse of anything either.

What a bizarro argument.

If Oubre Jr goes to the bench, it sbould be Gordon, who reminds me of Seth Curry, should start again like he had during most of his career cause of his smooth quick release pure shooting from 5 feet beyond the arc that is ideal for a SG to spread the floor. I would accept this move but not a 4 playing the 2 spot like Yuba, just cause it works for you on NBAK2. That's it on this topic and will no longer discuss it any further.

https://youtube.com/shorts/uAiuPvgEIDk?si=SQTpxBHSdQ-IPjg5

[stormi]

Oubre is a streaky shooter, NOT a bad shooter. When he's hot, it's scary. .

He's a bad shooter, he's a 30% career shooter and is shooting 29% across the first 6 games.

That's bad, no matter how you put it.

You just don't get it. Putting all bad shooters on the bench would destroy teams. It requires balance unless.you want all these good shooting starters to take shots away from the Big 3. The sooner you realize this, the more informed you will be, which may not be possible for you. Nurse understands this completely which is why he is the coach and not you.

I do agree that balance is necessary, and Oubre does some things that make him a better option than most of the other players that we have.

He's a + athlete, he's a decent cutter, he can harass guards on the perimeter, he's a willing shooter

I think in terms of contending though, he's the player that can most easily be upgraded on like:

The Bucks upgrading Bledsoe into Holiday, Nuggets upgrading Grant into Gordon, Celtics upgrading Smart into Holiday

His spacing loses a lot of value when you factor in that Oubre is a flat out bad shooter. He's not an elite defender by any means and has dreadful screen navigation. His volume scoring aspect loses a lot of value with Embiid and George in the line-up.

Dream player for me is still Tari Eason who's essentially Oubre but better at quite literally everything. Swiss army knife to play with Embiid/Maxey/George.

[WentzerWuver]

He's a bad shooter, he's a 30% career shooter and is shooting 29% across the first 6 games.

That's bad, no matter how you put it.

You just don't get it. Putting all bad shooters on the bench would destroy teams. It requires balance unless.you want all these good shooting starters to take shots away from the Big 3. The sooner you realize this, the more informed you will be, which may not be possible for you. Nurse understands this completely which is why he is the coach and not you.

I do agree that balance is necessary, and Oubre does some things that make him a better option than most of the other players that we have.

He's a + athlete, he's a decent cutter, he can harass guards on the perimeter, he's a willing shooter

I think in terms of contending though, he's the player that can most easily be upgraded on like:

The Bucks upgrading Bledsoe into Holiday, Nuggets upgrading Grant into Gordon, Celtics upgrading Smart into Holiday

His spacing loses a lot of value when you factor in that Oubre is a flat out bad shooter. He's not an elite defender by any means and has dreadful screen navigation. His volume scoring aspect loses a lot of value with Embiid and George in the line-up.

Dream player for me is still Tari Eason who's essentially Oubre but better at quite literally everything. Swiss army knife to play with Embiid/Maxey/George.

Well I do like his more develop game and hear Eason name come up more than once but are you willing to trade McCain and a few future 2nd rounds for him as that is what it may take to get him, especially if the Rockets are into TikTok stars cause they don't need anymore shooting specialist on their roster as oppose to more young depth and picks.

https://youtube.com/shorts/LbbPJ6HQPUQ?si=7pYt42uPVyB7u_6v

[Mik317]

Oubre gets a lot of leeway because we have lacked athletic wings for my whole life lol

so the moments when it works feels otherworldly and that makes up for the space cadet moments.

HOWEVA the key to being a threat is to never have anyone the other team is ok with leaving open...he is that. Lowry has been weirdly automatic but him and Oubre (and of course Tobias lol) was a big reason we lost that Knicks series. The modern NBA requires everyone to be a threat that defenses at least have to think about guarding

THAT being said I do wish he'd attack more in those spots when left open to get the defense moving but that would require him to be a good passer to take advantage of a collapsing defense lol. Thats what makes Jimmy and guys like DeRozan still dangerous in those spots despite their shaky jumpers.

I do think if we knew we were getting Martin, we'd probably let Oubre walk actually.

[M2J]

I'm a big fan of Oubre due to his price tag, athleticism, size, willingness to shoot open shots and create good looks in the paint for himself. Also his ability to put points on the board if defenses overplay the 3 stars should be a plus.

I think everything has to be on the table in terms of lineups this year, but it's not worth talking about until we see them play with the 3 stars.... Hell even 2 stars for a stretch would help determine it. All these judgements about players on the team individually or the team's on court performances is very premature. Now the team off court is a mess...

[76ciology]

Oubre is a streaky shooter; he’s usually below average, but occasionally, he shoots very well.

When his shot isn’t falling, he still contributes with hard work on defense, cutting, and attacking the rim. His current poor play is due to being the second option when George and Embiid are out, that he can’t just be a pressure release valve on defense. And you can say the same thing on almost all our players right now who are mostly shooting below 30% on 3s.

Most teams keep inconsistent shooters on the bench, but we’re starting both Caleb Martin and Kelly Oubre, who are both unreliable from outside. We should limit this by starting only one of them and increasing minutes for steadier shooters like Eric Gordon, Kyle Lowry, or Yabusele. Even giving minutes to Ricky Council or Jared McCain could help if our their shooting inconsistency becomes an issue.

BUT if there’s a point in this season to try things out and give everyone a chance, it’s now. So carry on.

[WentzerWuver]

Oubre is a streaky shooter; he’s usually below average, but occasionally, he shoots very well.

When his shot isn’t falling, he still contributes with hard work on defense, cutting, and attacking the rim. His current poor play is due to being the second option when George and Embiid are out, that he can’t just be a pressure release valve on defense. And you can say the same thing on almost all our players right now who are mostly shooting below 30% on 3s.

Most teams keep inconsistent shooters on the bench, but we’re starting both Caleb Martin and Kelly Oubre, who are both unreliable from outside. We should limit this by starting only one of them and increasing minutes for steadier shooters like Eric Gordon, Kyle Lowry, or Yabusele. Even giving minutes to Ricky Council or Jared McCain could help if our their shooting inconsistency becomes an issue.

BUT if there’s a point in this season to try things out and give everyone a chance, it’s now. So carry on.

I agree on this as Oubre Jr is more streaky than simply a bad shooter, considering when he was starting for the Warriors having 40-piece games while Klay was out all season running a motion offense. Both Caleb and Oubre has struggled early, so why bench them instead on letting them play thru their struggles with PG playing now. Even more streaky was Hield last season, but he has the quickest release the Sixers ever had since JJ but now I am rambling over nothing but missing his shooting when he's hot. Even more streaky and very inefficient shooter is Westy but the Nuggets has won the last 2 games with him in the starting lineup. So would keeping Buddy instead of signing Caleb for the same amount would have made more sense?

https://youtu.be/tTHoxTvS7AU?si=_RUrwkr6zoGXReME

https://youtu.be/EIEA7S_vGRI?si=oJtG7qDjgR4MNt4y

[M2J]

The Yabu lineup defenses are just not realistic. Playing Gordon and Lowry doesn't help