PG: Tried to win. Didnt.

[Tripod]

Calling it a problem is beyond a reach. I do agree he is an emotional player. When he makes a big play you see him scream and mean mug. Implying he is not a real man who isn't putting in real work is lame bro. We are excited about this young group and we can't wait for Scottie and IQ to join them soon. Leave the over the top Scottie slander to Doug Smith my man. We could have really used Scottie to close both Nuggets games against someone I find whines much more than Scottie in Jokic haha

Yeah this is just BS talk against Scottie. He is right there cheering guys on, talking with them, etc...

Come on guys, can yous stop quoting him. He's upset FVV is off to a terrible start and there's slander about him.

He's very clearly the biggest troll on the board right now. He does this every year where he comes in and puts in negative comments about Barnes that look more like personal attacks to try and get a trend started lol. And I think dude has mentioned before that he's probably in his 50s or older lol

Now it all makes sense.

Dislikes Barnes because he is a FVV fan.

Thank you

[Boogie!]

I haven’t been able to watchfull games but it seems like defense is what’s losing us games right now at the end. Offensively Ochai and dick have taken leaps, Barrett has been solid as well… we just can’t get stops at the end. Ft disparity in nuggets game was also embarrassing

[DelAbbot]

46% actually, but that really doesn't make much of a difference at that point

I had to actually look it up myself cause I didn't think even he could be THAT bad, but holy hell that is brutal. FVV is 6th worst in the NBA 0.1% ahead of rookie Sarr lol.

He hasn't been this incompetent inside the arc since his rookie season.

44% at the rim....yikes lol

I miss this banter

[Scase]

He hasn't been this incompetent inside the arc since his rookie season.

44% at the rim....yikes lol

I miss this banter

Simpler times

[Dennis 37]

Scottie has to work on improving relationships with refs. As a leader of the team, it's expected. So, talking to them outside of questionable calls, praising fair calls, converse about non basketball stuff. These refs are people too.

Being around Nick Nurse during his formative first couple of years in the league didn't help him any. Don't think he was as bad in the beginning.

All of the top stars bitch.

[WaltFrazier]

On the Raptors show with Blake this morning, Matt Bonner said something about the officiating. He said Jakob was having a good game and Raps were winning. Then, Bonner said, it was as if the refs said Denver was in danger of losing, we need to get this guy out of the game, and then it was touch foul touch foul touch foul and boom, Jak was fouled out. I'm paraphrasing him pretty closely. I only saw the OT, but I can easily picture this happening. What struck me was how casually Matt threw this out there, the idea that refs were cheating. He said it maybe in a joking manner but you rarely hear an announcer say the things that "conspiracy" fans think.

[MiamiSPX]

Scottie has to work on improving relationships with refs. As a leader of the team, it's expected. So, talking to them outside of questionable calls, praising fair calls, converse about non basketball stuff. These refs are people too.

Being around Nick Nurse during his formative first couple of years in the league didn't help him any. Don't think he was as bad in the beginning.

All of the top stars bitch.

When people insinuate or imply that Scottie complains more than most, they are telling on themselves that they don't watch other NBA games.

Now, if someone says "I don't care that 80% of the league's players whine and bitch about every non-call, including pretty much every single star player....I just don't want Scottie doing it" then that is fair, and I would actually agree with it.

[Indeed]

I haven’t been able to watchfull games but it seems like defense is what’s losing us games right now at the end. Offensively Ochai and dick have taken leaps, Barrett has been solid as well… we just can’t get stops at the end. Ft disparity in nuggets game was also embarrassing

The reason we lost is due to lack of on ball creator. Barrett was heavily guarded, and Dick can't get open, so Dick tried to dribble, but got loose of the ball two or three times, which lead to turnovers.

Meanwhile, defense was an issue, closing game was also an issue. Walter and few other rookies just aren't ready for the minutes, but I guess we will let them play. They need to be in 905 afterall.

[Dennis 37]

Being around Nick Nurse during his formative first couple of years in the league didn't help him any. Don't think he was as bad in the beginning.

All of the top stars bitch.

When people insinuate or imply that Scottie complains more than most, they are telling on themselves that they don't watch other NBA games.

Now, if someone says "I don't care that 80% of the league's players whine and bitch about every non-call, including pretty much every single star player....I just don't want Scottie doing it" then that is fair, and I would actually agree with it.

Of course we would prefer if Scottie didn't bitch, but the point is if bitching didn't have a long term effect on refs, it rarely has a short term effect for young non-Laker stars, then stars wouldn't do it. They would be told by their coaches to cut it out. Scottie is bitching now to improve his treatment 2 or 3 years from now.

Its part of the LeBronization of the league. I will not miss him.

[Indeed]

People wanting Mitchell to start over IQ are going to change their minds rather quickly (no pun intended) when they see GD and IQ bombing away 3’s as they open up the floor for RJ, Scottie and Poeltl to cook in the paint.

If you really watched the game, Dick can't get open to shoot the 3s, particularly, end of the game, where Dick ends up trying to drive, then losing the ball. That was pretty much the reason we don't score near the end with Dick. Defense is also an issue.

[Indeed]

On the Raptors show with Blake this morning, Matt Bonner said something about the officiating. He said Jakob was having a good game and Raps were winning. Then, Bonner said, it was as if the refs said Denver was in danger of losing, we need to get this guy out of the game, and then it was touch foul touch foul touch foul and boom, Jak was fouled out. I'm paraphrasing him pretty closely. I only saw the OT, but I can easily picture this happening. What struck me was how casually Matt threw this out there, the idea that refs were cheating. He said it maybe in a joking manner but you rarely hear an announcer say the things that "conspiracy" fans think.

Just finished watching from league pass. The officiating was meh the whole game, we probably got away with more calls, particularly, hitting the hands of the shooters.

Regardless, the reason we lost isn't really officiating, but mainly lacked ball creator. Outside of Barrett, no one can create on ball. Dick were not open, and he tried to dribble at game end, which caused the 2 or 3 turnovers, which was pretty much the reason we lost. They also trap our handlers even with Poeltl, and we got another 2 to 3 turnovers.

I see having Quickley back would be better, but without Mitchell, our defense isn't going to be great.

[MEDIC]

On the Raptors show with Blake this morning, Matt Bonner said something about the officiating. He said Jakob was having a good game and Raps were winning. Then, Bonner said, it was as if the refs said Denver was in danger of losing, we need to get this guy out of the game, and then it was touch foul touch foul touch foul and boom, Jak was fouled out. I'm paraphrasing him pretty closely. I only saw the OT, but I can easily picture this happening. What struck me was how casually Matt threw this out there, the idea that refs were cheating. He said it maybe in a joking manner but you rarely hear an announcer say the things that "conspiracy" fans think.

I think most people.who have been around the NBA long enough believe that the NBA "helps" their top teams when they are struggling. To the players it must be very evident at times.

A team like the Raptors are easy to sabotage. They have one legit big & he impacts the game in a big way. He isn't a star, so they don't have to treat him like one. All you have to do is get JP in fould trouble & the team is effed.

The game against the Lakers was really hard to watch for me. The inconsistency in the way fouls were being called in both ends.

I have seen it for years. The NBA doesn't promote Cinderella stories like the NCAA does. They promiote big cities & big stars.

They aren't going to let a young team who is at the bottom of the league beat the Lakers or Nuggets if they can help it. They simply won't let the young team play aggressive in the 2nd half & they will swallow their whistle for the Lakers when the ramp up their intensity.

It's a great story line. Lakers come back for the win!!

[will]

Nice thread title!

[MEDIC]

On the Raptors show with Blake this morning, Matt Bonner said something about the officiating. He said Jakob was having a good game and Raps were winning. Then, Bonner said, it was as if the refs said Denver was in danger of losing, we need to get this guy out of the game, and then it was touch foul touch foul touch foul and boom, Jak was fouled out. I'm paraphrasing him pretty closely. I only saw the OT, but I can easily picture this happening. What struck me was how casually Matt threw this out there, the idea that refs were cheating. He said it maybe in a joking manner but you rarely hear an announcer say the things that "conspiracy" fans think.

Just finished watching from league pass. The officiating was meh the whole game, we probably got away with more calls, particularly, hitting the hands of the shooters.

Regardless, the reason we lost isn't really officiating, but mainly lacked ball creator. Outside of Barrett, no one can create on ball. Dick were not open, and he tried to dribble at game end, which caused the 2 or 3 turnovers, which was pretty much the reason we lost. They also trap our handlers even with Poeltl, and we got another 2 to 3 turnovers.

I see having Quickley back would be better, but without Mitchell, our defense isn't going to be great.

Sure. But without Yak at the end of the game, we all knew what the end result was probably going to be. He was the only player on our team fhat could somewhat defend their best player.

It would be interesting to watch the game again & see what kind of fouls were called against Yak vs. the calls against the Joker.

[ItsDanger]

On the Raptors show with Blake this morning, Matt Bonner said something about the officiating. He said Jakob was having a good game and Raps were winning. Then, Bonner said, it was as if the refs said Denver was in danger of losing, we need to get this guy out of the game, and then it was touch foul touch foul touch foul and boom, Jak was fouled out. I'm paraphrasing him pretty closely. I only saw the OT, but I can easily picture this happening. What struck me was how casually Matt threw this out there, the idea that refs were cheating. He said it maybe in a joking manner but you rarely hear an announcer say the things that "conspiracy" fans think.

Bonner knows what's up. If one of us said that, you'd get the typical reaction. But Bonner played in the league a long time, you take his word seriously.