Welcome to Boston, Neemias Queta!!!

[shackles10]

He could be a Claxton, Lively, Gafford, Capella type player if he continues to develop and get minutes. He can't finish well except dunks and lobs so that's holding him back, but he's also more of a passer/ball mover than that mold of athletic rim runner big as well. Next step is to work on his footwork and touch around the rim for sure.

[playa-hater]

He could be a Claxton, Lively, Gafford, Capella type player if he continues to develop and get minutes. He can't finish well except dunks and lobs so that's holding him back, but he's also more of a passer/ball mover than that mold of athletic rim runner big as well. Next step is to work on his footwork and touch around the rim for sure.

agree with all above.

I always liked Queta and his potential. But I did not, or anyone, think he could/would be a possible Long term solution at center, as a starter for a Title team. But after his last 2 games, and watching his impact and his impressive On/Off numbers, Maybe just maybe..

[Fierce1]

He could be a Claxton, Lively, Gafford, Capella type player if he continues to develop and get minutes. He can't finish well except dunks and lobs so that's holding him back, but he's also more of a passer/ball mover than that mold of athletic rim runner big as well. Next step is to work on his footwork and touch around the rim for sure.

agree with all above.

I always liked Queta and his potential. But I did not, or anyone, think he could/would be a possible Long term solution at center, as a starter for a Title team. But after his last 2 games, and watching his impact and his impressive On/Off numbers, Maybe just maybe..

It was not so long ago I said Q has starter potential.

[ConstableGeneva]

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I wonder if Joe's willing to use double big starting lineups with KP-Q, Holiday off the bench. It's like an amped up version of the 2022 starting lineup but with KP, White, and Queta instead of Al, Smart, and Rob. Even just against certain matchups in the regular season.

[Homerclease]

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[ConstableGeneva]

SBOBO Brad did it again.

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He certainly could make Al expendable after the season and help them regain some Cap, trade and
veteran free agent flexibility.

He could be a trade piece, whenever the Celtics get under the Apron and can aggregate contracts.

He could be a nice compliment to Porzingis, sort of a top flight relief pitcher to a dominant starter.

He is a bit antithetical to Mazzulla's preferred Bigs with 3-point range, so that may limit starting possibilities here.

[Gant]

He certainly could make Al expendable after the season and help them regain some Cap, trade and
veteran free agent flexibility.

He could be a trade piece, whenever the Celtics get under the Apron and can aggregate contracts.

He could be a nice compliment to Porzingis, sort of a top flight relief pitcher to a dominant starter.

He is a bit antithetical to Mazzulla's preferred Bigs with 3-point range, so that may limit starting possibilities here.

It just a matter of time until Queta starts taking threes. He's got a nice practice stroke. They're wisely prioritizing more fundamental parts of the game first.

He's there on the perimeter a lot anyway, setting those hefty picks, so the transition to popping back for a three is not a big adjustment.

[playa-hater]

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I wonder if Joe's willing to use double big starting lineups with KP-Q, Holiday off the bench. It's like an amped up version of the 2022 starting lineup but with KP, White, and Queta instead of Al, Smart, and Rob. Even just against certain matchups in the regular season.

That size and 2 shot blockers.. But not sure Joe would ever consider not starting Jrue.. This season at least.

[playa-hater]

He certainly could make Al expendable after the season and help them regain some Cap, trade and
veteran free agent flexibility.

He could be a trade piece, whenever the Celtics get under the Apron and can aggregate contracts.

He could be a nice compliment to Porzingis, sort of a top flight relief pitcher to a dominant starter.

He is a bit antithetical to Mazzulla's preferred Bigs with 3-point range, so that may limit starting possibilities here.

It just a matter of time until Queta starts taking threes. He's got a nice practice stroke. They're wisely prioritizing more fundamental parts of the game first.

He's there on the perimeter a lot anyway, setting those hefty picks, so the transition to popping back for a three is not a big adjustment.

I have always disliked the Idea of taking a good vertical spacer (underrated quality IMO) and having him stand outside looking to shoot 3s. If Boston had Jarret Allen, D Lively, Rudy Goebert, a healthy Rob Williams, Gafford and even Kornet etc.. I would rather they do what makes them good-great than to add the "versatility" of a shooting center.

Not saying there isn't a value at shooting 3s for a Bigman, but do what you do well is always top Priority for me.

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Evil genius Brad strikes again.

[shackles10]

Queta making us all forget about Lonnie Walker lol

[Bill Lumbergh]

Queta making us all forget about Lonnie Walker lol

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's not get carried away here.

[Homerclease]

Queta making us all forget about Lonnie Walker lol

Queta making the case for Lonnie Walker. 25 year old guy who was on a 2 way last season. “There’s no way 29 other teams make a mistake on a guy”. We’re playing double big because we have no wing depth and Walsh isn’t ready for a heavy workload. Walker should still be here, since it would appear Springer is nothing more than a wasted roster spot at the moment

[Gant]

I've got a theory about Queta's oversized impact on positive net ratings etc. There's a sort of gravity to him that pulls the other team away from what they want to do. In other words, they're almost instinctively compelled to shift toward him because of his physical presence. That causes them to go out of sync, and results in stats like being in the 100th percentile on offense as cited in this tweet.

This Celtics team is so good. They take advantage of every opening, and Queta provides that with his imposing, athletic and active play.

Being an apex pick setter also helps.

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Queta making the case for Lonnie Walker. 25 year old guy who was on a 2 way last season. “There’s no way 29 other teams make a mistake on a guy”. We’re playing double big because we have no wing depth and Walsh isn’t ready for a heavy workload. Walker should still be here, since it would appear Springer is nothing more than a wasted roster spot at the moment

Seems a bit like an apples to oranges comparison, imo.

-Queta was more of a young, unproven upside swing with untapped potential since he was 24.16 when we signed him, only had 2 years of NBA experience, both of those 2 years he was on a 2-way, only played in 20 total NBA games prior to Boston and had only been with 1 NBA team prior to Boston.

Walker on the other hand was more of a journeyman who had been around the league for awhile, bounced around from team to team, couldn't stick anywhere and was further along in his development considering he was 25.87 (over a year and a half older than Queta) when we waived him, had already played 6 NBA seasons, none of them were on a 2-way, played 341 total NBA games (including playoffs) and had played for 3 different NBA teams. He was more of a finished product..

-Not only was Queta more of an unproven, untapped potential young guy to try and develop, but he came with much less risk since we could sign him to a 2-way. So he wasn't even taking up a standard roster spot and his salary didn't count towards the cap for us. There was literally no risk in signing him for us.

Much different situation for Walker, who was not 2-way eligible. And we already had 14 guys on standard contracts so signing Walker would have added about $11 mil (salary + taxes). Plus, after winning the championship in dominating fashion, clearly Brad wanted as little roster turnover as possible.

Not worth it to spend that much for a deep bench piece. While you say we have no wing depth, that seems a bit hyperbolic imo, since we have the best wing duo in the league, plus Hauser - so that's like about 90 mins per game allocated to proven, established wings. Not to mention depth at other positions (5 good bigs and 3 good guards) which allow us to play big or play small, without needing to play more wings..and if we need another wing, we can develop Walsh who had an excellent preseason, has been solid so far in the regular season and Joe was quoted the other day saying how much he believes in Walsh.

Also, it's kind of cherry picking to just say that just because Queta has worked out, that automatically means Walker would have worked out too. Brad has signed lots of guys age 24-27 to cheap contracts to try and fill out the end of the roster (or give them a 2-way) who haven't really done much at all. Banton, Svi, Lamar Stevens are some examples. Noah Vonleh, Juancho Hernangomez, Matt Ryan and Justin Jackson, Brodric Thomas, Mfiondu Kabengele, Drew Peterson (jury's still out on him but hasn't contributed anything yet) Wenyen Gabriel got cut in camp, so did Denzel Valentine, Jake Layman, Theo Pinson, Ryan Arcidiacono, Dmytro Skapintsev, Ron Harper Jr, etc. Dennis Schroder was 27 when we got him on a cheap contract but he wasn't a good fit here. Brissett did pretty well for us - even if we consider him a hit, that's what, 2 hits compared to like 16 misses?

Not to mention other guys fairly similar to Walker in terms of age and NBA experience who we could've signed but we didn't, such as TJ Warren, Jaylen Nowell, Terance Davis, Kendrick Nunn, etc. Those guys haven't done anything in the league since we passed on them and are more of an apples to apples comparison with Walker in terms of their NBA experience level..

It would be more of an apples to apples comparison if we looked at every guy Brad has signed to a training camp contract during his tenure who had a decent amount of NBA experience before signing with us and look how they all did in Boston. I believe this is the list of those players: Denzel Valentine, Jake Layman, Theo Pinson, Ryan Arcidiacono, Lamar Stevens, Wenyen Gabriel, Lonnie Walker IV, Noah Vonleh, Justin Jackson, Garrison Mathews. None of them were hits.

Even if we expand that list to include guys who initially signed with Boston on a 2-way..yeah you've got Queta and Hauser but that's still 2 hits compared to like 15 misses.

It's great that Queta is working out well for us. But that does not mean that every pro basketball player who's 24+ and been in the league for a couple of years but no other team seems to want would work out well for us too.

Interesting discussion, though

[playa-hater]

Wait..were talking about out Lonnie Walker in Queta's thread...does that mean Lonnie is in our hearts??

[Homerclease]

Queta making the case for Lonnie Walker. 25 year old guy who was on a 2 way last season. “There’s no way 29 other teams make a mistake on a guy”. We’re playing double big because we have no wing depth and Walsh isn’t ready for a heavy workload. Walker should still be here, since it would appear Springer is nothing more than a wasted roster spot at the moment

Seems a bit like an apples to oranges comparison, imo.

-Queta was more of a young, unproven upside swing with untapped potential since he was 24.16 when we signed him, only had 2 years of NBA experience, both of those 2 years he was on a 2-way, only played in 20 total NBA games prior to Boston and had only been with 1 NBA team prior to Boston.

Walker on the other hand was more of a journeyman who had been around the league for awhile, bounced around from team to team, couldn't stick anywhere and was further along in his development considering he was 25.87 (over a year and a half older than Queta) when we waived him, had already played 6 NBA seasons, none of them were on a 2-way, played 341 total NBA games (including playoffs) and had played for 3 different NBA teams. He was more of a finished product..

-Not only was Queta more of an unproven, untapped potential young guy to try and develop, but he came with much less risk since we could sign him to a 2-way. So he wasn't even taking up a standard roster spot and his salary didn't count towards the cap for us. There was literally no risk in signing him for us.

Much different situation for Walker, who was not 2-way eligible. And we already had 14 guys on standard contracts so signing Walker would have added about $11 mil (salary + taxes). Plus, after winning the championship in dominating fashion, clearly Brad wanted as little roster turnover as possible.

Not worth it to spend that much for a deep bench piece. While you say we have no wing depth, that seems a bit hyperbolic imo, since we have the best wing duo in the league, plus Hauser - so that's like about 90 mins per game allocated to proven, established wings. Not to mention depth at other positions (5 good bigs and 3 good guards) which allow us to play big or play small, without needing to play more wings..and if we need another wing, we can develop Walsh who had an excellent preseason, has been solid so far in the regular season and Joe was quoted the other day saying how much he believes in Walsh.

Also, it's kind of cherry picking to just say that just because Queta has worked out, that automatically means Walker would have worked out too. Brad has signed lots of guys age 24-27 to cheap contracts to try and fill out the end of the roster (or give them a 2-way) who haven't really done much at all. Banton, Svi, Lamar Stevens are some examples. Noah Vonleh, Juancho Hernangomez, Matt Ryan and Justin Jackson, Brodric Thomas, Mfiondu Kabengele, Drew Peterson (jury's still out on him but hasn't contributed anything yet) Wenyen Gabriel got cut in camp, so did Denzel Valentine, Jake Layman, Theo Pinson, Ryan Arcidiacono, Dmytro Skapintsev, Ron Harper Jr, etc. Dennis Schroder was 27 when we got him on a cheap contract but he wasn't a good fit here. Brissett did pretty well for us - even if we consider him a hit, that's what, 2 hits compared to like 16 misses?

Not to mention other guys fairly similar to Walker in terms of age and NBA experience who we could've signed but we didn't, such as TJ Warren, Jaylen Nowell, Terance Davis, Kendrick Nunn, etc. Those guys haven't done anything in the league since we passed on them and are more of an apples to apples comparison with Walker in terms of their NBA experience level..

It would be more of an apples to apples comparison if we looked at every guy Brad has signed to a training camp contract during his tenure who had a decent amount of NBA experience before signing with us and look how they all did in Boston. I believe this is the list of those players: Denzel Valentine, Jake Layman, Theo Pinson, Ryan Arcidiacono, Lamar Stevens, Wenyen Gabriel, Lonnie Walker IV, Noah Vonleh, Justin Jackson, Garrison Mathews. None of them were hits.

Even if we expand that list to include guys who initially signed with Boston on a 2-way..yeah you've got Queta and Hauser but that's still 2 hits compared to like 15 misses.

It's great that Queta is working out well for us. But that does not mean that every pro basketball player who's 24+ and been in the league for a couple of years but no other team seems to want would work out well for us too.

Interesting discussion, though

Sigh. I thought you blocked me but I’ll go paragraph by paragraph.

I don’t think it’s apples and oranges at all. Both are 25, and flashed good play while on the Celtics.

Yes, Queta is still more raw than Walker. Talent still = talent. Raw or not.

I don’t think Walker is a finished product at all, and the Celtics have shown they are far better than most at developing talent.

If Brad cared about the roster turnover as much as you claim, why didn’t they bring back Brissett?

If Walker was 2 way eligible, he’s probably in Maine right now.

I don’t care about the luxury tax bill. Neither should the Celtics.

I didn’t say Walker would automatically work out. This is gaslighting. Walker is also a better player than everyone you mentioned.

What I’m saying is this. The Celtics have very limited avenues to add talent. The Celtics are playing less than ideal lineups in certain situations because they lack proper wing depth. Springer can’t crack the rotation even with guys like Hauser and Brown already missing time. Walsh isn’t ready for big minutes against better basketball teams. Scheierman is terrible. They could use another bench wing. Is a season ender? Of course not. It probably wouldnt even make a difference seeding wise. I’d still prefer to keep the guy and see if we can’t harness his talent into a productive player for the future. They have depth now. In a year or two, that’s likely going to change

[darrendaye]

Soooo.....anyway.....back to Queta, I do hope they let him hoist some up as the season moves on. He's very active and aggressive. I'd love to tell him that if he gives up some of these non-high percentage rim attempts to pass it out more, we'll give you a crack or two from the perimeter. More consistent staying in his crouch in the last game. He does get out of control on those drive and pump fakes still. Offensively, he thrives when bodies and the ball are moving. I said last year he has some similarities to Rob's game in level of activity and passing acumen. Rob's a better passer I'd say, so strong and accurate but Queta has awareness and willingness.

[Tatumfor2]

Did his 3 year deal kick in this year? If he starts knocking down threes we won't be able to afford to extend him!