Game 9 Kings vs Clippers

[LightTheBeam]

Excited for game tonight.

Reason #458 why Keon should start. Fox has Mann on him, and on defense has to guard harden. Picked up an early foul. Huerter gets absolutely cooked getting switched on harden.

Hopefully it becomes even more obvious to coach tonight. #FreeKeon

[LightTheBeam]

3.5 mins in fox 2nd foul guarding harden. Oof

[BoogieTime]

Murray following the offensive output of last game with the commons conistency issues of 2-6 - 0-4 from three....

The offense has looked a bit shaky, or very shaky. some solid d tho

[Jkam31]

Get Trey Lyles out of here

[BoogieTime]

Get Trey Lyles out of here

yep

[Jkam31]

2-16 from three is flat embarrassing man

[LightTheBeam]

2-16 from three is flat embarrassing man

Whole team is cold from 3 tonight. Just been one of those games. Still winnable which is crazy

[BoogieTime]

I'm not happy with Keegan as a player

2-8 - 0-6 is disgusting. Its the inconsistency and lack of aggression on that end, and giving up a lot of his defensive progression on offensive stagnation in his career.

I appreciate the impact numbers but I think a lot of that has been our starters and our bench, and his -20 tonight won't help.

Though he wasn't alone tonight, Demar and Domas weren't there usual selves, Fox with his turnover seasonal issues, and the bench..

[LightTheBeam]

Not that angry about tonight. There's just going to be nights like this when you can't buy a 3. Impossible to win when opponents goes 14/30 from 3, and you go 3/26. Appreciate last game intensity from fox, Monk and sabonis.

[KF10]

3-26 from 3 pters is unacceptable

[codydaze]

Impossible to win when you shoot like that. The fact that it was a less than 10 point loss is dumbfounding to me.

[Jkam31]

2-16 from three is flat embarrassing man

Whole team is cold from 3 tonight. Just been one of those games. Still winnable which is crazy

This has to stop we keep saying that since preseason it’s not a cold slight or one of those game we can’t shoot for **** Keegan is average, Fox is Fox, Ellis can’t shoot and Huerter who knows. We’re not gonna magically start shootings better

[blind prophet]

Ugly & frustrating game.

[LightTheBeam]

2-16 from three is flat embarrassing man

Whole team is cold from 3 tonight. Just been one of those games. Still winnable which is crazy

This has to stop we keep saying that since preseason it’s not a cold slight or one of those game we can’t shoot for **** Keegan is average, Fox is Fox, Ellis can’t shoot and Huerter who knows. We’re not gonna magically start shootings better

Fox 37% -> 30%
Keegan 36% -> 28%
Monk 35% -> 28%
Huerter 36% - 33%
Keon 42% -> 35%
Lyles 38% -> 22%

Literally the entire set of shooters are having a rough start. And for the record Keon is the only one still shooting at a respectable clip. It's not about magically shooting better, its about a positive regression back to the mean. We have years of data on all these players, data suggests team is in a slump. Shooting overall is contagious. When players are having fun and the pressure doesn't feel like a mountain the 3s will start falling.

But is your opinion the team is just historically bad shooters? So in that case should we trade Keegan and start dougie? What's the answer other than just dooming.

[LightTheBeam]

Impossible to win when you shoot like that. The fact that it was a less than 10 point loss is dumbfounding to me.

I was far less upset at this game than the raptors loss. Teams have bad shooting nights, but we stayed in it and the guys played solid defense after the 1st quarter. Ill bet anyone on this board we never repeat that shooting another game this year

[Jkam31]

Whole team is cold from 3 tonight. Just been one of those games. Still winnable which is crazy

This has to stop we keep saying that since preseason it’s not a cold slight or one of those game we can’t shoot for **** Keegan is average, Fox is Fox, Ellis can’t shoot and Huerter who knows. We’re not gonna magically start shootings better

Fox 37% -> 30%
Keegan 36% -> 28%
Monk 35% -> 28%
Huerter 36% - 33%
Keon 42% -> 35%
Lyles 38% -> 22%

Literally the entire set of shooters are having a rough start. And for the record Keon is the only one still shooting at a respectable clip. It's not about magically shooting better, its about a positive regression back to the mean. We have years of data on all these players, data suggests team is in a slump. Shooting overall is contagious. When players are having fun and the pressure doesn't feel like a mountain the 3s will start falling.

But is your opinion the team is just historically bad shooters? So in that case should we trade Keegan and start dougie? What's the answer other than just dooming.

Fox had one good shooting year in his career if anything that’s an outlier Keegan and Huerter are the only known shooters in that group. Ellis numbers are irrelevant small sample size vs non nba talent teams do t respect him out there.

[LightTheBeam]

This has to stop we keep saying that since preseason it’s not a cold slight or one of those game we can’t shoot for **** Keegan is average, Fox is Fox, Ellis can’t shoot and Huerter who knows. We’re not gonna magically start shootings better

Fox 37% -> 30%
Keegan 36% -> 28%
Monk 35% -> 28%
Huerter 36% - 33%
Keon 42% -> 35%
Lyles 38% -> 22%

Literally the entire set of shooters are having a rough start. And for the record Keon is the only one still shooting at a respectable clip. It's not about magically shooting better, its about a positive regression back to the mean. We have years of data on all these players, data suggests team is in a slump. Shooting overall is contagious. When players are having fun and the pressure doesn't feel like a mountain the 3s will start falling.

But is your opinion the team is just historically bad shooters? So in that case should we trade Keegan and start dougie? What's the answer other than just dooming.

Fox had one good shooting year in his career if anything that’s an outlier Keegan and Huerter are the only known shooters in that group. Ellis numbers are irrelevant small sample size vs non nba talent teams do t respect him out there.

Fox is definitely an outlier at this time. No argument.

Lyles has multiple years shooting above 35%.
Monk has been between 35-40% for 4 years in a row
Keon is 100% being guarded on the perimeter. We are watching different games if you think teams are ignoring him there.

But again what's the answer here? The team is slumping but we also knew that adding derozan we were a mid range team. Our 3 best players operate inside.

[Jkam31]

Fox 37% -> 30%
Keegan 36% -> 28%
Monk 35% -> 28%
Huerter 36% - 33%
Keon 42% -> 35%
Lyles 38% -> 22%

Literally the entire set of shooters are having a rough start. And for the record Keon is the only one still shooting at a respectable clip. It's not about magically shooting better, its about a positive regression back to the mean. We have years of data on all these players, data suggests team is in a slump. Shooting overall is contagious. When players are having fun and the pressure doesn't feel like a mountain the 3s will start falling.

But is your opinion the team is just historically bad shooters? So in that case should we trade Keegan and start dougie? What's the answer other than just dooming.

Fox had one good shooting year in his career if anything that’s an outlier Keegan and Huerter are the only known shooters in that group. Ellis numbers are irrelevant small sample size vs non nba talent teams do t respect him out there.

Fox is definitely an outlier at this time. No argument.

Lyles has multiple years shooting above 35%.
Monk has been between 35-40% for 4 years in a row
Keon is 100% being guarded on the perimeter. We are watching different games if you think teams are ignoring him there.

But again what's the answer here? The team is slumping but we also knew that adding derozan we were a mid range team. Our 3 best players operate inside.

I guess we just have to hope our guys start shooting better Sabonis needs to shoot more mid range shots that alone would help.

Also we should try and package Ellis/Huerter/1st for Cam Johnson he’d bring in shooting with size and defense and he’s scoring off the dribble and DHO’s.

Lyles has been atrocious if Milwaukee would take him and a couple seconds for Portis to save some money I pull that trigger as well (Lyles and MLE).

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/trade-machine/_/year/2024/team1/mil/team2/sac

[LightTheBeam]

Fox had one good shooting year in his career if anything that’s an outlier Keegan and Huerter are the only known shooters in that group. Ellis numbers are irrelevant small sample size vs non nba talent teams do t respect him out there.

Fox is definitely an outlier at this time. No argument.

Lyles has multiple years shooting above 35%.
Monk has been between 35-40% for 4 years in a row
Keon is 100% being guarded on the perimeter. We are watching different games if you think teams are ignoring him there.

But again what's the answer here? The team is slumping but we also knew that adding derozan we were a mid range team. Our 3 best players operate inside.

I guess we just have to hope our guys start shooting better Sabonis needs to shoot more mid range shots that alone would help.

Also we should try and package Ellis/Huerter/1st for Cam Johnson he’d bring in shooting with size and defense and he’s scoring off the dribble and DHO’s.

Lyles has been atrocious if Milwaukee would take him and a couple seconds for Portis to save some money I pull that trigger as well (Lyles and MLE).

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/trade-machine/_/year/2024/team1/mil/team2/sac

I would not give Ellis in that deal, nor is he needed. Huerter + Colby + 1st is more than enough.

Not sure how the Portis deal works. 99% sure you cant combine the MLE with a player. Might be legal to trade MLE for Portis, which then opens up a TPE for Milwaukee who then trades that for Lyles? Idk sounds illegal but if that was possible Id be all over that as well.

[Jkam31]

Fox is definitely an outlier at this time. No argument.

Lyles has multiple years shooting above 35%.
Monk has been between 35-40% for 4 years in a row
Keon is 100% being guarded on the perimeter. We are watching different games if you think teams are ignoring him there.

But again what's the answer here? The team is slumping but we also knew that adding derozan we were a mid range team. Our 3 best players operate inside.

I guess we just have to hope our guys start shooting better Sabonis needs to shoot more mid range shots that alone would help.

Also we should try and package Ellis/Huerter/1st for Cam Johnson he’d bring in shooting with size and defense and he’s scoring off the dribble and DHO’s.

Lyles has been atrocious if Milwaukee would take him and a couple seconds for Portis to save some money I pull that trigger as well (Lyles and MLE).

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/trade-machine/_/year/2024/team1/mil/team2/sac

I would not give Ellis in that deal, nor is he needed. Huerter + Colby + 1st is more than enough.

Not sure how the Portis deal works. 99% sure you cant combine the MLE with a player. Might be legal to trade MLE for Portis, which then opens up a TPE for Milwaukee who then trades that for Lyles? Idk sounds illegal but if that was possible Id be all over that as well.

The Portis trade worked on Spoctrac machine but like you said who knows also Nance for two seconds works as well have Lyles/Nance front court off the bench

Cam is gonna be in demand he’s playing extremely well we’d have to outbid teams and I assume Nets are running the same offense as us he’d be a perfect fit. We’d be squeezed for minutes with carters return