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Post#101 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Nov 9, 2024 11:18 am

Watched the 1st half. Knicks made their biggest run with McBride playing over Bridges. Because then actual defense was being played.
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Post#102 » by prophet_of_rage » Sat Nov 9, 2024 11:24 am

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I noticed we did a lot more actions with him initiating today. That's a good thing imo.
Maybe Thibs reads my posts?

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Short guys can't dominate the dribbling and shooting. Brunson having the ball in hand 11 minutes total out of a 48 minute game was crazy.

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Post#103 » by Tomato Sauce » Sat Nov 9, 2024 11:29 am

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SelbyCobra wrote:The thing with Towns is that it's so obvious that there's a way to use him and be significantly better/more dangerous than the team was last year - there is nothing surprising about what KAT does on nights like tonight; he is a guy who is historically efficient for nearly a decade in the NBA now. He has the 8th highest TS% of any player in the history of basketball. When you look at only guys who are primary scorers (let's say 20 PPG types), he is 3rd all-time. It goes Jokic, Steph, KAT. We're talking HOF, best of the best offensive efficiency. He's close to a 50/40/90 guy at 7 feet tall.

His defense obviously leaves a lot to be desired, but if you bring this type of historically efficient offensive player into an already established team structure and hierarchy, led by a defense-scheming-and-obsessed head coach who has two of the best wing defenders in the starting lineup and other defensive pieces, there's no need to have KAT's defensive deficiencies be crippling. The man was not brought in to be a multi-dimensional savior and centerpiece, he was brought in to be the historically efficient 7 foot scorer that he's always been. 

If you can't figure out how to properly integrate a level of elite offense that puts him amongst the all-time greats, you should be fired. If you can't figure out how to properly cover for that level of poor defense when you have already established pieces AND you're a defensive wizard coach, you should be fired. 

Thibs has been handed the keys to a Ferrari. If he tries to use it as a minivan around town, shaking his head about gas mileage and a lack of trunk space, take the keys back and find someone who knows what a Ferrari is, budgets for fuel, and opens that monster up on the f*cking highway. I mean DAMN, it's all right there in black and white. Tighten this isht up or get out the way, man.



:lol: :lol: :lol:

I agree but do you keep him at center? or do you eventually move him to the 4? Because Bridges and OG cant help KAT rim protect.


I think you take it game by game. Our best lineup and the one we should use most of the time should be the one we are using now. But certain games, I think it would be best to run Mitch at the 5 with KAT at the 4.
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Post#104 » by Reign23 » Sat Nov 9, 2024 11:43 am

we are 3rd in the east, but would be 12th in the west :D that is some wild ****.
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Post#105 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Nov 9, 2024 11:47 am

Knicks made their other big run in the 4th quarter with Bridges on the floor but no Hart, with Deuce in for him.

Knicks two big runs made with Deuce on the floor, outside of Towns hitting all a bunch of 3s early in the game
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Post#106 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Nov 9, 2024 11:48 am

Reign23 wrote:we are 3rd in the east, but would be 12th in the west :D that is some wild ****.


The East sucks yet again
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Post#107 » by whocares1 » Sat Nov 9, 2024 12:03 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Would Jerami Grant solve shot blocking at the 4? I don't think there is any way to match $, even including Hart, who will have to be traded in any major trade. Sorry Roommates podcast!


I don’t know if you’re joking but the odds of them trading Brunson’s best friend plus the biggest glue guy we’ve had since I don’t know when…is slim to none. We just need Mitch back and they’ll wait for that.
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Post#108 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Nov 9, 2024 12:08 pm

4 starters had 5 or more assists last night. Josh Hart with 7 of them, which is what we need to see from him if he's going to start. Initiate and create. Push the tempo.

Move the ball. When the ball doesn't move, it makes the game way harder than it needs to be and for a team that has multiple shooters and the best shooting/face up big in the league on the floor, sharing the ball should be the default mode. It's also more fun to watch.
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Post#109 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Nov 9, 2024 12:15 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Would Jerami Grant solve shot blocking at the 4? I don't think there is any way to match $, even including Hart, who will have to be traded in any major trade. Sorry Roommates podcast!


I think Grant kinda sucks to be honest. I put him in the Tobias Harris/Zach LaVine category. He gets decent stats but does he actually help you win games? I can’t say so.
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Post#110 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Nov 9, 2024 12:17 pm

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Iron Mantis wrote:Josh Hart is super underrated. So thankful we have him


I noticed we did a lot more actions with him initiating today. That's a good thing imo.


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Post#111 » by DaGawd » Sat Nov 9, 2024 12:20 pm

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Reign23 wrote:we are 3rd in the east, but would be 12th in the west :D that is some wild ****.


The East sucks yet again

no one foresaw the bucks and 6ers being in the flagg sweepstakes
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Post#112 » by BKlutch » Sat Nov 9, 2024 12:27 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:4 starters had 5 or more assists last night. Josh Hart with 7 of them, which is what we need to see from him if he's going to start. Initiate and create. Push the tempo.

Move the ball. When the ball doesn't move, it makes the game way harder than it needs to be and for a team that has multiple shooters and the best shooting/face up big in the league on the floor, sharing the ball should be the default mode. It's also more fun to watch.

Josh rebounds too and he’s so disruptive to the other team while defending. Each of our guys contributes something different. It’s hard for other teams to adjust to us because of this.

Who’d have thought that we’d see both Bam and Giannis outplayed by a Knicks center?
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Post#113 » by Synciere » Sat Nov 9, 2024 12:30 pm

Bucks suck. I’m not taking anything from this win.
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Post#114 » by rajajackal » Sat Nov 9, 2024 12:31 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Would Jerami Grant solve shot blocking at the 4? I don't think there is any way to match $, even including Hart, who will have to be traded in any major trade. Sorry Roommates podcast!


I think Grant kinda sucks to be honest. I put him in the Tobias Harris/Zach LaVine category. He gets decent stats but does he actually help you win games? I can’t say so.

you just told buzz somebody sucks because they are like tobias harris
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Post#115 » by rajajackal » Sat Nov 9, 2024 12:33 pm

Synciere wrote:Bucks suck. I’m not taking anything from this win.

brunson played facilitator. team got kat involved early. those are the adjustments i wanted to see happen, so i'm happy with it
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Post#116 » by spree2kawhi » Sat Nov 9, 2024 12:36 pm

DaGawd wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Reign23 wrote:we are 3rd in the east, but would be 12th in the west :D that is some wild ****.


The East sucks yet again

no one foresaw the bucks and 6ers being in the flagg sweepstakes

I didn’t, but honestly there were some dudes who saw it coming. They’ll eventually be tough in the playoffs though.
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Post#117 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Nov 9, 2024 12:37 pm

rajajackal wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Would Jerami Grant solve shot blocking at the 4? I don't think there is any way to match $, even including Hart, who will have to be traded in any major trade. Sorry Roommates podcast!


I think Grant kinda sucks to be honest. I put him in the Tobias Harris/Zach LaVine category. He gets decent stats but does he actually help you win games? I can’t say so.

you just told buzz somebody sucks because they are like tobias harris



I did? Damn I probably posted that and forgot :lol: :-? My bad

But yeah. I'm not a fan of empty stats players.
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Post#118 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Nov 9, 2024 12:38 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
DaGawd wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
The East sucks yet again

no one foresaw the bucks and 6ers being in the flagg sweepstakes

I didn’t, but honestly there were some dudes who saw it coming. They’ll eventually be tough in the playoffs though.


As soon as Philly signed Paul George i knew they were cooked
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Post#119 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Nov 9, 2024 12:41 pm

BKlutch wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:4 starters had 5 or more assists last night. Josh Hart with 7 of them, which is what we need to see from him if he's going to start. Initiate and create. Push the tempo.

Move the ball. When the ball doesn't move, it makes the game way harder than it needs to be and for a team that has multiple shooters and the best shooting/face up big in the league on the floor, sharing the ball should be the default mode. It's also more fun to watch.

Josh rebounds too and he’s so disruptive to the other team while defending. Each of our guys contributes something different. It’s hard for other teams to adjust to us because of this.

Who’d have thought that we’d see both Bam and Giannis outplayed by a Knicks center?


Not me. But KAT is like an entirely different player now on the Knicks. The confidence and aggression...he's always had the talent but now he's playing like he knows people can't defend him.

I can't help but think that being in a good locker room like this is also a factor. Thibs is a psycho but when he believes in you he will ride with you til the wheels fall off

I'm still thinking though that either Precious or Mitch needs to start alongside him for defense but so far so good.
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Post#120 » by Context » Sat Nov 9, 2024 12:53 pm

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