2024-25 NBA Rookie Discussion Thread

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Which 2 rookies are you most high on / impressed with?

Zach Edey
66
25%
Reed Shephard
26
10%
Zaccharie Risacher
36
14%
Alexandre Sarr
8
3%
Stephon Castle
21
8%
Matas Buzelis
12
5%
Ron Holland
5
2%
Bub Carrington
12
5%
Donovan Clingan
23
9%
Other (Dillingham, Knecht, Eells, Salaün, Williams, Ware, McCain, etc.)
57
21%
 
Total votes: 266

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Post#281 » by brutalitops » Sun Nov 10, 2024 3:15 am

PlatinumState wrote:This isnt a bad draft class at all. Players arent getting playing time is the problem

Yeah I think this is a huge issue

Like our two rookies, I've loved what they have shown in minimal time, But is Terrance Shannon Jr going to get gametime behind McDaniels/Edwards? Dillingham is playing behind Conley/Edwards in a team wanting to make it to the Conference finals at a minimum.

I think Rob Dillingham on a different team would be getting a lot more love. Just he's playing in a **** team where his best attributes are defence, when the team kinda sucks, And he cant really shoot, which nobody else can.

While Guys like Ware dont help Miami right now, But looked great in glimpses
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Post#282 » by Felixians4 » Sun Nov 10, 2024 6:15 pm

This is bad class, but would be some (super)star players and many useful others, some gems in second round.

Wizards got a potential core in 24Draft. Spurs possible choose franchise cornerstone in Castle and Edey, Clingan giving another boost for C position. So far only real disappointment by me is Jalen Dub Williams brother for Jazz
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Post#283 » by HotelVitale » Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:26 am

Felixians4 wrote:So far only real disappointment by me is Jalen Dub Williams brother for Jazz

He was incredibly raw and showed none of the IQ or control that his brother has. I didn't get him as a lotto prospect at all, think his brother's success had a lot to do with it. He could still figure it out in a while but we shouldn't expect it anytime soon.
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Post#284 » by Dan Z » Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:09 am

Felixians4 wrote:This is bad class, but would be some (super)star players and many useful others, some gems in second round.

Wizards got a potential core in 24Draft. Spurs possible choose franchise cornerstone in Castle and Edey, Clingan giving another boost for C position. So far only real disappointment by me is Jalen Dub Williams brother for Jazz


Edey was drafted by Memphis.
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Post#285 » by HotelVitale » Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:48 am

McCain with 27pts on 10/18 shooting, and he legit led the Sixers to a much, much needed win. Created almost all of his own shots too.

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Post#286 » by Blazing_royale » Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:24 am

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Jared McCain How Good Can He Be? 

Post#287 » by Hussien Fatal » Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:40 pm

He’s clearly already a good rotational player. His shot is a pure as it gets as far as his form. He is also a decent defender as well and he’s only 20.

In only 15mpg he’s averaging 10ppg

How good will he be once he reaches his full potential? Will he be an all star or just a decent starter?
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Post#288 » by cupcakesnake » Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:51 pm

HotelVitale wrote:McCain with 27pts on 10/18 shooting, and he legit led the Sixers to a much, much needed win. Created almost all of his own shots too.



Surprised by how strong he is with the ball already. I definitely pictured him being too little as a rookie to play this way. He can get where he wants to go with the ball, which unlocks all his other useful skills. I really like players like this, but didn't realize McCain was going to be one of them.
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Post#289 » by HotelVitale » Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:22 pm

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HotelVitale wrote:McCain with 27pts on 10/18 shooting, and he legit led the Sixers to a much, much needed win. Created almost all of his own shots too.



Surprised by how strong he is with the ball already. I definitely pictured him being too little as a rookie to play this way. He can get where he wants to go with the ball, which unlocks all his other useful skills. I really like players like this, but didn't realize McCain was going to be one of them.


It's been interesting to watch his game and style. His size and lack of quickness are a pretty big issue for his shot creation, he struggles to turn the corner a lot and really can't finish in the trees (unlike say Maxey). And he also has an unusual 3 pt shot that's a little slower and lower off the bounce than you might expect for a shooter.

But he's got this weird tenacity to his shot-hunting, he plays with good pace but is also patient and constantly seeking little openings and ways to get a shot up that you don't usually see. He'll drive one way and get cut off and then cut back and use a pick to get a defender on his back, then explode into some running layup that no one else was thinking about. Or he'll dribble the ball up and get cut off, then spin slowly into a defender, then slowly spin back again mid-range fadeaway that seems totally on balance. He's confident and poised everywhere on the court and he's watching and waiting for openings. It's unusual and I honestly keep doubting it, seems too slow to work but it keeps working.
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Post#291 » by Hussien Fatal » Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:16 pm

He is clearly already a good rotational player.

In just 15mpg he’s averaging 10ppg nog to mention his shot form is a pure as it gets and he seems to be a decent defender as well.

So how good can he get?…will he be an all star or better? Or will he end up just being a decent starter?
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Post#292 » by wemby » Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:35 pm

I know it's waaaay to early and it's purely speculation, but just for fun: would any team have gone a different direction with the information we have as of today? I think Ryan Dunn gets top 10 looks. I'd probably take him at 8 for the Spurs. Very happy with what I've seen from Castle so far though, still would take him at 4.
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Post#293 » by UcanUwill » Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:35 pm

McCain thread got moved to here, I replying to that thread.

Obviously you do not have to be super athlete, super fast to be star in the NBA, but for a guard its tough. I like McCain because he is methodical and crafty, he can drive both to his left and to his right it seems, but his game is a bit slow, he reminds me more of those star Euro players than typical NBA star. I am not sure he would be a star, but he looks like Brogdon type very solid player.
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Post#294 » by UcanUwill » Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:37 pm

wemby wrote:I know it's waaaay to early and it's purely speculation, but just for fun: would any team have gone a different direction with the information we have as of today? I think Ryan Dunn gets top 10 looks. I'd probably take him at 8 for the Spurs.


Dunn definitely jumps up. I imagine Yves Missi jumps up too, where was he drafted, looks like he very clearly be a decent center for years to come.
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Post#295 » by BAMAFREAK » Mon Nov 11, 2024 6:30 pm

Jaylen Wells moves up but not sure how high.
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Post#296 » by BigGargamel » Mon Nov 11, 2024 6:34 pm

wemby wrote:I know it's waaaay to early and it's purely speculation, but just for fun: would any team have gone a different direction with the information we have as of today? I think Ryan Dunn gets top 10 looks. I'd probably take him at 8 for the Spurs. Very happy with what I've seen from Castle so far though, still would take him at 4.


Naah. You need more upside from a top ten guy. A player like Dunn works for the Suns because he doesn't have to be a franchise savior.

Plus, he really hasn't done much lately. Leveled off quite a bit from that blistering start. I still think he tops out as an average backup.
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Post#297 » by Bornstellar » Mon Nov 11, 2024 7:58 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:I was wrong on Castle he's been a non factor for San Antonio so far.

Disagree. He hasn't gotten consistent time yet and he's barely 10 games into his rookie season as a 19 year old. But he has shown us a lot already. All he really needs is more time on the court imo. His processing speed is fantastic, he is very composed and just sees the game at a high level. He is already one of our better defensive players and probably the best guard we have at drawing fouls. If he ever develops a consistent jumper he has perennial all-star potential
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Post#298 » by HotelVitale » Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:18 pm

wemby wrote:I know it's waaaay to early and it's purely speculation, but just for fun: would any team have gone a different direction with the information we have as of today? I think Ryan Dunn gets top 10 looks. I'd probably take him at 8 for the Spurs. Very happy with what I've seen from Castle so far though, still would take him at 4.


Seems like a lot of this might be because the Suns have minutes for him? There's no real backup 4 on the roster and Beal is always injured at the 3, so it's basically O'Neale and KD and Dunn as the whole 3/4 rotation.

There are always some guys like this at the start of the season who get minutes and seem like they're ahead of the pack, feel like I've been down that road too many times to have any faith in it. Many times that's meant absolutely nothing about how good they'll be in the long term.
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Post#299 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:55 pm

Hussien Fatal wrote:He’s clearly already a good rotational player. His shot is a pure as it gets as far as his form. He is also a decent defender as well and he’s only 20.

In only 15mpg he’s averaging 10ppg

How good will he be once he reaches his full potential? Will he be an all star or just a decent starter?

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Post#300 » by Hussien Fatal » Tue Nov 12, 2024 2:20 pm

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:
Hussien Fatal wrote:He’s clearly already a good rotational player. His shot is a pure as it gets as far as his form. He is also a decent defender as well and he’s only 20.

In only 15mpg he’s averaging 10ppg

How good will he be once he reaches his full potential? Will he be an all star or just a decent starter?

Who?


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