GT: Hornets vs Sixers Sun Nov 10 7pm

[CuseMayne]

Missed the game. Got high instead.

The box score seared my eyeballs. So, I'm hoping someone can share some of the good things you saw on the court that perhaps escaped the box.

How did Salaun look? Overmatched?

I thought Tidjane was pretty good. Career high 9 rebounds, forced 2 turnovers in quick succession in the 3rd Q...overall good defense. A few of his missed 3s were all but down. Shouldn't expect that much from him in the box score, he's playing his role right now.

[MasterIchiro]

Missed the game. Got high instead.

The box score seared my eyeballs. So, I'm hoping someone can share some of the good things you saw on the court that perhaps escaped the box.

How did Salaun look? Overmatched?

I thought Tidjane was pretty good. Career high 9 rebounds, forced 2 turnovers in quick succession in the 3rd Q...overall good defense. A few of his missed 3s were all but down. Shouldn't expect that much from him in the box score, he's playing his role right now.

Good to hear. I'm still traumatized by 7 years of impatiently waiting on MKG.

[fatlever]

TS was solid defensively but a complete train wreck on offense just like most of the team was all night with the exception of the usuals. diabate Was another unexpected positive. He's one of the best natural rebounders I've seen on this team in a decade. He has instincts that just can't be taught and are more valuable than size and strength sometimes when it comes to rebounding. Lamelo Was his usual roller coaster self with an absolutely ridiculous three to send the game to over time. He also got completely bailed out by the refs on a foul that should have been called and was overturned. But then he completely **** the bed and we had a clock violation because he dribbled the air out of the ball. The Sixers figured out pretty early that we have absolutely no one that can score at the rim other than melo so they doubled every ball handler aggressively at the top all night long. Other than a great pass Josh Green once again was a complete no show on offense. Defensively the team was solid other than letting a guy who has been out of the league for the past five years destroy them down low and a mid first round Rookie completely torched them the entire second half. Mccain is exactly what we always hoped Nick Smith would turn out to be.

[Diop]

Missed the game. Got high instead.

The box score seared my eyeballs. So, I'm hoping someone can share some of the good things you saw on the court that perhaps escaped the box.

How did Salaun look? Overmatched?

Salaun was fine, loved it when George took him on 1 on 1 and Salaun poked it away. Just wish his 3's would drop again.

The highlights for me were Diabate's rebounding and I think it was the best defensive game Williams has played for Charlotte. Some good blocks.

[MasterIchiro]

TS was solid defensively but a complete train wreck on offense just like most of the team was all night with the exception of the usuals. diabate Was another unexpected positive. He's one of the best natural rebounders I've seen on this team in a decade. He has instincts that just can't be taught and are more valuable than size and strength sometimes when it comes to rebounding. Lamelo Was his usual roller coaster self with an absolutely ridiculous three to send the game to over time. He also got completely bailed out by the refs on a foul that should have been called and was overturned. But then he completely **** the bed and we had a clock violation because he dribbled the air out of the ball. The Sixers figured out pretty early that we have absolutely no one that can score at the rim other than melo so they doubled every ball handler aggressively at the top all night long. Other than a great pass Josh Green once again was a complete no show on offense. Defensively the team was solid other than letting a guy who has been out of the league for the past five years destroy them down low and a mid first round Rookie completely torched them the entire second half. Mccain is exactly what we always hoped Nick Smith would turn out to be.

See, this here is not helping.

[fatlever]

Man wish we would have hired Redick. I really think he would have unlocked Miller to another level. This offense Lee runs is really a bad fit for him.

I will root for Lee to figure it out but I’m really not feeling it

Yeah I'm still not convinced coach lee has any plan on offense other than hand the ball to a guard at the top of the key and then let them try to spam three pointers. His second best offensive play is trying to get an offensive rebound. There's absolutely no movement nothing creative I think we're dead last in the league in low post scoring, that's understandable considering the garbage we have up front. But we're also amongst the last in the league in cutting. We've completely gone away from developing Miller as any type of a midrange threat. And we now have about 10 examples this season where we barely could inbound the ball at a crucial time. It's possible the he's just a great motivational speaker and not really a solid X and O's guy, Beyond understanding that the team needed to take a lot more 3 pointers. Hope if that's the case he's self aware enough to understand that and hope there's at least one or two assistants on the staff that can get this offense looking a little more organized.

[MasterIchiro]

I mean, I'm assuming the owners kept the top scouts behind the evaluation of Miller, LaMelo, Mark Williams. It's not like they didn't have the ability to spot top tier talent.

[fatlever]

I mean, I'm assuming the owners kept the top scouts behind the evaluation of Miller, LaMelo, Mark Williams. It's not like they didn't have the ability to spot top tier talent.

I know you love trying to find secret ways to praise you man crush Mitch but I'm fairly certain that the entire scouting department Sans Mitch's fake roll in the front office have been replaced.

[MasterIchiro]

I mean, I'm assuming the owners kept the top scouts behind the evaluation of Miller, LaMelo, Mark Williams. It's not like they didn't have the ability to spot top tier talent.

I know you love trying to find secret ways to praise you man crush Mitch but I'm fairly certain that the entire scouting department Sans Mitch's fake roll in the front office have been replaced.

Eh, the best players on this team come from that group. For you to even suggest there's some alternative view that salvage your credibility takes some audacity. You focus on the negatives. It's a compulsion.

[MasterIchiro]

The problem is not Lee and his planning.

It's a personnel issue.

If Mark is not there to bring gravity to the rim, the pressure has to come from Mann, and the defense can just pack the paint and force midrange shots and threes early in the shot clock. Passing to the paint creates no opportunity. So of course a set defense can take advantage of an offense restricted to the perimeter. The defense can take away the rim unless Mann plays hero ball.

[Diop]

The problem is not Lee and his planning.

It's a personnel issue.

If Mark is not there to bring gravity to the rim, the pressure has to come from Mann, and the defense can just pack the paint and force midrange shots and threes early in the shot clock. Passing to the paint creates no opportunity. So of course a set defense can take advantage of an offense restricted to the perimeter. The defense can take away the rim unless Mann plays hero ball.

nah I don't let Lee off that easily, even though I like him.

We need some more structure apart from give the ball to Ball, Miller or Mann at the top and let them create something. When they do drive, if they get into trouble they end up having to force it up or throw a ridiculous pass as no one else is really moving. its stand and watch.

get everyone moving, create options, look for easier baskets.

[MasterIchiro]

The problem is not Lee and his planning.

It's a personnel issue.

If Mark is not there to bring gravity to the rim, the pressure has to come from Mann, and the defense can just pack the paint and force midrange shots and threes early in the shot clock. Passing to the paint creates no opportunity. So of course a set defense can take advantage of an offense restricted to the perimeter. The defense can take away the rim unless Mann plays hero ball.

nah I don't let Lee off that easily, even though I like him.

We need some more structure apart from give the ball to Ball, Miller or Mann at the top and let them create something. When they do drive, if they get into trouble they end up having to force it up or throw a ridiculous pass as no one else is really moving. its stand and watch.

get everyone moving, create options, look for easier baskets.

This is the first time Lee is in charge of mapping an offense as a head coach and he's trying to do it absent paint scoring, and rim pressure. The two go hand-in-hand. When Mark rolls to the rim well you have to glue bodies to him or it's free points off a LaMelo lob. They share spectacular chemistry.

LaMelo has suffered Biz butterfingers and when he sends an unexpected pass right in the favorite sweet spot of Nick Richards, the ball bounces off Nick's face because his court vision is so so terrible. He's seeing double out there. He does not react quick enough when no one sees him coming (except Ball).

[Diop]

The problem is not Lee and his planning.

It's a personnel issue.

If Mark is not there to bring gravity to the rim, the pressure has to come from Mann, and the defense can just pack the paint and force midrange shots and threes early in the shot clock. Passing to the paint creates no opportunity. So of course a set defense can take advantage of an offense restricted to the perimeter. The defense can take away the rim unless Mann plays hero ball.

nah I don't let Lee off that easily, even though I like him.

We need some more structure apart from give the ball to Ball, Miller or Mann at the top and let them create something. When they do drive, if they get into trouble they end up having to force it up or throw a ridiculous pass as no one else is really moving. its stand and watch.

get everyone moving, create options, look for easier baskets.

This is the first time Lee is in charge of mapping an offense as a head coach and he's trying to do it absent paint scoring, and rim pressure. The two go hand-in-hand. When Mark rolls to the rim well you have to glue bodies to him or it's free points off a LaMelo lob. They share spectacular chemistry.

LaMelo has suffered Biz butterfingers and when he sends an unexpected pass right in the favorite sweet spot of Nick Richards, the ball bounces off his face because his court vision is so so terrible. He's seeing double out there.

im hoping they can grow as a group. either way, its more fun to watch than previous years. hopefully theyre building something

[MasterIchiro]

nah I don't let Lee off that easily, even though I like him.

We need some more structure apart from give the ball to Ball, Miller or Mann at the top and let them create something. When they do drive, if they get into trouble they end up having to force it up or throw a ridiculous pass as no one else is really moving. its stand and watch.

get everyone moving, create options, look for easier baskets.

This is the first time Lee is in charge of mapping an offense as a head coach and he's trying to do it absent paint scoring, and rim pressure. The two go hand-in-hand. When Mark rolls to the rim well you have to glue bodies to him or it's free points off a LaMelo lob. They share spectacular chemistry.

LaMelo has suffered Biz butterfingers and when he sends an unexpected pass right in the favorite sweet spot of Nick Richards, the ball bounces off his face because his court vision is so so terrible. He's seeing double out there.

im hoping they can grow as a group. either way, its more fun to watch than previous years. hopefully theyre building something

Well the key additions via Peterson have left a great deal to be desired - Salaun and Green both zeroes on offense in a high scoring league on a team with a prolific, gifted playmaker. Diabate is a zero on offense as well.

They trying to get cute with their scouting protocols?

And now his coaching selection in question?

They need Mark or his additions contributing zero on offense in a scoring league weighs down the offense a greater magnitude.

[MasterIchiro]

Mitch's pick, Cody Martin has seen enough. He's definitely stepped up on offense. Are those Peterson defenders even capable? Maybe? Someday? Maybe not 7 years away?

[Diop]

They aren’t in a rush to compete

[KembaWalker]

Salaun should be getting on ball reps in the g league, Gibson should be dominating the weekend runs at LA Fitness or a practice body on Thibs coaching staff.

It would be nice if LaMelo was slightly more efficient in these games but at the same time but he ain’t Jokic yet for goodness sake. Dude can only do so much

[KembaWalker]

and honestly, need to highlight that the refs cost us that game by blowing a call by their own admission that was going to be a free layup for LaMelo and turning it into a jump ball, followed by the horrible call against Curry. abysmal performance by them, although not unexpected

[Braggins]

I want to see Salaun getting as many minutes as possible in the Hornets rotation. I'm glad he is starting and I don't care that his offense sucks and he isn't hitting shots right now.

[SWedd523]

Salaun should be getting on ball reps in the g league, Gibson should be dominating the weekend runs at LA Fitness or a practice body on Thibs coaching staff.

It would be nice if LaMelo was slightly more efficient in these games but at the same time but he ain’t Jokic yet for goodness sake. Dude can only do so much

Lee needs to reign him in. They're never going to be a real competitor with Melo at 36% usage and some of the boneheaded stuff he does.

I get he's a human heat check and they need to let him play his game for him to be successful, BUT he needs to be more intelligent during the game. Dial the gun-slinging back a little bit, get Miller and the boys some looks, and pick the shots better.