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Post#341 » by Mariner » Mon Nov 11, 2024 7:07 pm

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QB_Eagles wrote:Damn.

The Cowboys suck lol.


I mean to call out the HC like that...you just don't see that except from wide receivers for the most part. lol

Most teams just have down year occasionally and then they recover, but the Cowboys when they're having a bad year they implode magnificently. It's impressive actually.

It actually is.
In 2014 the cowboys won a playoff game and in 2016 were the first seed. In 2015 they were the 4th worst team in the NFL.
If you’re not going to win it’s better to really suck.
I expect the cowboys to have a good regular season next year. ( not playoffs)
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Re: Week 10 

Post#342 » by Mr B » Mon Nov 11, 2024 7:18 pm

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Mariner wrote:At a 100 percent full strength the cowboys weren’t going anywhere. Maybe 10 wins and a quick exit in the playoffs as per usual.
The injuries though have taken an already bad situation and made it much worse.
Ironically the injuries will help as this team will get a great draft spot. This team will not win 5 games this year. Even the giants and panther games are very losable.

I don’t think there is any question the Cowboys will be in play for the #1 pick (top 5 at worst). If that happens I’m REALLY hoping another team falls in love with one of the QB’s. Dropping down a couple spots and picking up couple extra picks would ideal.


-Raiders
-Jaguars
-Cowboys
-Titans
-Giants
-Panthers
-Dolphins
-Patriots
-Browns

These will likely be the top-9 in the draft, all doing really bad

IMO there is no question that the Panthers are the worst of the group though, they should get the #1 pick.

So I think at best Dallas gets the #2 overall, and at worst #9 overall

After yesterday’s game I cannot confidently say that the Panthers are worse than the Cowboys. Our team is REALLY BAD!. There are only 2 “winnable” games left on the schedule, the Giants and the Panthers. Both Daniel Jones and Bryce Young are better than Cooper Rush and Trey Lance.

The Cowboys cannot run the ball, and now cannot pass the ball. They still can’t stop the run and they have to give up more big plays in the secondary than any other team. I literally cannot think of 1 thing this team does well.
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Re: Week 10 

Post#343 » by Mr B » Mon Nov 11, 2024 7:20 pm

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azcatz11 wrote:Well - Parsons is over it. And I don't blame the guy. But to call out Mike like he did...this is going to incur a huge fine IMO.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/42327757/micah-parsons-feels-bad-zack-martin-cowboys-veterans

"You want to win games and do great things with those type of legends who put in more time and work than Mike McCarthy ever did. So those are the kind of guys that I have so much sympathy and hurt for."

The Pod cast boys and their culture strikes again. If I'm the owner of the Cowboys, I'm taking calls to trade his azz right now. And he is not playing the rest of the year and I don't want him around the team at all.

I actually agree and no way would I trade him to Washington. Let’s see what the Colts would be willing to give.
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Post#344 » by azcatz11 » Mon Nov 11, 2024 7:21 pm

Mr B wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:Well - Parsons is over it. And I don't blame the guy. But to call out Mike like he did...this is going to incur a huge fine IMO.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/42327757/micah-parsons-feels-bad-zack-martin-cowboys-veterans

"You want to win games and do great things with those type of legends who put in more time and work than Mike McCarthy ever did. So those are the kind of guys that I have so much sympathy and hurt for."

The Pod cast boys and their culture strikes again. If I'm the owner of the Cowboys, I'm taking calls to trade his azz right now. And he is not playing the rest of the year and I don't want him around the team at all.

I actually agree and no way would I trade him to Washington. Let’s see what the Colts would be willing to give.


What are we talking about here? The Colts? Are you looking for AR15?
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Re: Week 10 

Post#345 » by Micah Prescott » Mon Nov 11, 2024 7:24 pm

Mr B wrote:
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Mr B wrote:I don’t think there is any question the Cowboys will be in play for the #1 pick (top 5 at worst). If that happens I’m REALLY hoping another team falls in love with one of the QB’s. Dropping down a couple spots and picking up couple extra picks would ideal.


-Raiders
-Jaguars
-Cowboys
-Titans
-Giants
-Panthers
-Dolphins
-Patriots
-Browns

These will likely be the top-9 in the draft, all doing really bad

IMO there is no question that the Panthers are the worst of the group though, they should get the #1 pick.

So I think at best Dallas gets the #2 overall, and at worst #9 overall

After yesterday’s game I cannot confidently say that the Panthers are worse than the Cowboys. Our team is REALLY BAD!. There are only 2 “winnable” games left on the schedule, the Giants and the Panthers. Both Daniel Jones and Bryce Young are better than Cooper Rush and Trey Lance.

The Cowboys cannot run the ball, and now cannot pass the ball. They still can’t stop the run and they have to give up more big plays in the secondary than any other team. I literally cannot think of 1 thing this team does well.

Yeah I think you are right.

At best we get #1 overall. At worst #9 overall.
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Re: Week 10 

Post#346 » by Mariner » Mon Nov 11, 2024 8:18 pm

Mr B wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:
Mr B wrote:I don’t think there is any question the Cowboys will be in play for the #1 pick (top 5 at worst). If that happens I’m REALLY hoping another team falls in love with one of the QB’s. Dropping down a couple spots and picking up couple extra picks would ideal.


-Raiders
-Jaguars
-Cowboys
-Titans
-Giants
-Panthers
-Dolphins
-Patriots
-Browns

These will likely be the top-9 in the draft, all doing really bad

IMO there is no question that the Panthers are the worst of the group though, they should get the #1 pick.

So I think at best Dallas gets the #2 overall, and at worst #9 overall

After yesterday’s game I cannot confidently say that the Panthers are worse than the Cowboys. Our team is REALLY BAD!. There are only 2 “winnable” games left on the schedule, the Giants and the Panthers. Both Daniel Jones and Bryce Young are better than Cooper Rush and Trey Lance.

The Cowboys cannot run the ball, and now cannot pass the ball. They still can’t stop the run and they have to give up more big plays in the secondary than any other team. I literally cannot think of 1 thing this team does well.

We have great special teams. lol
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Re: Week 10 

Post#347 » by Cactus Jack » Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:40 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:Cooper Rush and Trey Lance combined for 49 passing yards, 0 TDs, and 1 INT.

Jesus Christ :lol:

And the defense gave up 134513451364 points as usual



This team is DEEPLY flawed, down to the core. And the only thing keeping my head up is knowing that Belichick is coming.

I think a big part of it is that we have missed pretty big in the draft the last two years. Guyton looks pretty bad so far, and seems like he is good to kill at least one drive every game with a flag. Mazi Smith was supposed to be the answer to our run defense woes, he is straight garbage. So there you have two 1st round picks, in the trenches, that are garbage and it spills out to every play they are in.

I think it's okay to miss one draft year, but when you miss two years you feel it.

Guyton was viewed as a raw prospect who was a Right Tackle in college. Moving him to the left side & throwing him into the fire was a huge misstep by them. Anyone who had scouted him would know that. But I think he'll be fine at RT long-term.

The bigger issue is how they handled free agency. Relying on the draft alone to fill holes is not a winning formula obviously. Much like Jerry, the Hawks went dumpster diving in free agency & now they're paying the price for it. Not only do they have huge holes along the offensive line (depth), but also issues at LB. They let both Jordyn Brooks & Bobby Wagner leave in free agency & in a move that was made out of desperation, they had to give up a 4th round pick to acquire Ernest Jones. Thankfully, Jones is a much better player than Jonathan Mingo. :wink:
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Re: Week 10 

Post#348 » by Micah Prescott » Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:59 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:Cooper Rush and Trey Lance combined for 49 passing yards, 0 TDs, and 1 INT.

Jesus Christ :lol:

And the defense gave up 134513451364 points as usual



This team is DEEPLY flawed, down to the core. And the only thing keeping my head up is knowing that Belichick is coming.

I think a big part of it is that we have missed pretty big in the draft the last two years. Guyton looks pretty bad so far, and seems like he is good to kill at least one drive every game with a flag. Mazi Smith was supposed to be the answer to our run defense woes, he is straight garbage. So there you have two 1st round picks, in the trenches, that are garbage and it spills out to every play they are in.

I think it's okay to miss one draft year, but when you miss two years you feel it.

Guyton was viewed as a raw prospect who was a Right Tackle in college. Moving him to the left side & throwing him into the fire was a huge misstep by them. Anyone who had scouted him would know that. But I think he'll be fine at RT long-term.

The bigger issue is how they handled free agency. Relying on the draft alone to fill holes is not a winning formula obviously. Much like Jerry, the Hawks went dumpster diving in free agency & now they're paying the price for it. Not only do they have huge holes along the offensive line (depth), but also issues at LB. They let both Jordyn Brooks & Bobby Wagner leave in free agency & in a move that was made out of desperation, they had to give up a 4th round pick to acquire Ernest Jones. Thankfully, Jones is a much better player than Jonathan Mingo. :wink:

yeah I agree 100% with all of this.
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Re: Week 10 

Post#349 » by Mr B » Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:20 pm

QB_Eagles wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
QB_Eagles wrote:Damn.

The Cowboys suck lol.


I mean to call out the HC like that...you just don't see that except from wide receivers for the most part. lol

Most teams just have down year occasionally and then they recover, but the Cowboys when they're having a bad year they implode magnificently. It's impressive actually.

We do everything big here in Texas, including failing.
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Post#350 » by azcatz11 » Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:23 pm

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QB_Eagles wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
I mean to call out the HC like that...you just don't see that except from wide receivers for the most part. lol

Most teams just have down year occasionally and then they recover, but the Cowboys when they're having a bad year they implode magnificently. It's impressive actually.

We do everything big here in Texas, including failing.


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Re: Week 10 

Post#351 » by Mr B » Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:24 pm

azcatz11 wrote:
Mr B wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:The Pod cast boys and their culture strikes again. If I'm the owner of the Cowboys, I'm taking calls to trade his azz right now. And he is not playing the rest of the year and I don't want him around the team at all.

I actually agree and no way would I trade him to Washington. Let’s see what the Colts would be willing to give.


What are we talking about here? The Colts? Are you looking for AR15?

No, I’d rather have their next two 1st round picks o Ed any player they currently have.
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Re: Week 10 

Post#352 » by Mr B » Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:26 pm

Mariner wrote:
Mr B wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:
-Raiders
-Jaguars
-Cowboys
-Titans
-Giants
-Panthers
-Dolphins
-Patriots
-Browns

These will likely be the top-9 in the draft, all doing really bad

IMO there is no question that the Panthers are the worst of the group though, they should get the #1 pick.

So I think at best Dallas gets the #2 overall, and at worst #9 overall

After yesterday’s game I cannot confidently say that the Panthers are worse than the Cowboys. Our team is REALLY BAD!. There are only 2 “winnable” games left on the schedule, the Giants and the Panthers. Both Daniel Jones and Bryce Young are better than Cooper Rush and Trey Lance.

The Cowboys cannot run the ball, and now cannot pass the ball. They still can’t stop the run and they have to give up more big plays in the secondary than any other team. I literally cannot think of 1 thing this team does well.

We have great special teams. lol

I actually feel sorry for Brandon Aubrey. His talent is being waisted in Dallas. He’s been really the only true All Pro on the roster.
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Re: Week 10 

Post#353 » by Mr B » Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:30 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:Cooper Rush and Trey Lance combined for 49 passing yards, 0 TDs, and 1 INT.

Jesus Christ :lol:

And the defense gave up 134513451364 points as usual



This team is DEEPLY flawed, down to the core. And the only thing keeping my head up is knowing that Belichick is coming.

I think a big part of it is that we have missed pretty big in the draft the last two years. Guyton looks pretty bad so far, and seems like he is good to kill at least one drive every game with a flag. Mazi Smith was supposed to be the answer to our run defense woes, he is straight garbage. So there you have two 1st round picks, in the trenches, that are garbage and it spills out to every play they are in.

I think it's okay to miss one draft year, but when you miss two years you feel it.

Guyton was viewed as a raw prospect who was a Right Tackle in college. Moving him to the left side & throwing him into the fire was a huge misstep by them. Anyone who had scouted him would know that. But I think he'll be fine at RT long-term.

The bigger issue is how they handled free agency. Relying on the draft alone to fill holes is not a winning formula obviously. Much like Jerry, the Hawks went dumpster diving in free agency & now they're paying the price for it. Not only do they have huge holes along the offensive line (depth), but also issues at LB. They let both Jordyn Brooks & Bobby Wagner leave in free agency & in a move that was made out of desperation, they had to give up a 4th round pick to acquire Ernest Jones. Thankfully, Jones is a much better player than Jonathan Mingo. :wink:

The Cowboys have not made a major move in free agency since they signed Brandon Carr. No one should be surprised that they don’t spend money on other teams free agents. That haven’t been buyers in free agency in over a decade.

What we should be surprised at is why are they trading 4th round picks for guys who are 3rd or 4th at their position on the team. If you’re going to solely build your team through the draft you have zero business trading mid round picks (or any picks) for backup players. They should be hoarding picks not giving them away.
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Re: Week 10 

Post#354 » by Mr B » Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:32 pm

azcatz11 wrote:
Mr B wrote:
QB_Eagles wrote:Most teams just have down year occasionally and then they recover, but the Cowboys when they're having a bad year they implode magnificently. It's impressive actually.

We do everything big here in Texas, including failing.


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Re: Week 10 

Post#355 » by Mariner » Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:00 am

Mr B wrote:
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Mr B wrote:After yesterday’s game I cannot confidently say that the Panthers are worse than the Cowboys. Our team is REALLY BAD!. There are only 2 “winnable” games left on the schedule, the Giants and the Panthers. Both Daniel Jones and Bryce Young are better than Cooper Rush and Trey Lance.

The Cowboys cannot run the ball, and now cannot pass the ball. They still can’t stop the run and they have to give up more big plays in the secondary than any other team. I literally cannot think of 1 thing this team does well.

We have great special teams. lol

I actually feel sorry for Brandon Aubrey. His talent is being waisted in Dallas. He’s been really the only true All Pro on the roster.

With nothing on the line I hope they give him a chance to break the record. Maybe even a 70 yarder.
Special teams also include Turpin. Thinks he’s leading in kickoff and punt return average.
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Post#356 » by azcatz11 » Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:03 am

Watching this tua interview…if this dude gets another concussion and keeps playing his family is doing him a huge disservice. You can’t tell me in 30 years he’s going to be normal after all of these
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Re: Week 10 

Post#357 » by Cactus Jack » Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:26 am

Mr B wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:Cooper Rush and Trey Lance combined for 49 passing yards, 0 TDs, and 1 INT.

Jesus Christ :lol:

And the defense gave up 134513451364 points as usual



This team is DEEPLY flawed, down to the core. And the only thing keeping my head up is knowing that Belichick is coming.

I think a big part of it is that we have missed pretty big in the draft the last two years. Guyton looks pretty bad so far, and seems like he is good to kill at least one drive every game with a flag. Mazi Smith was supposed to be the answer to our run defense woes, he is straight garbage. So there you have two 1st round picks, in the trenches, that are garbage and it spills out to every play they are in.

I think it's okay to miss one draft year, but when you miss two years you feel it.

Guyton was viewed as a raw prospect who was a Right Tackle in college. Moving him to the left side & throwing him into the fire was a huge misstep by them. Anyone who had scouted him would know that. But I think he'll be fine at RT long-term.

The bigger issue is how they handled free agency. Relying on the draft alone to fill holes is not a winning formula obviously. Much like Jerry, the Hawks went dumpster diving in free agency & now they're paying the price for it. Not only do they have huge holes along the offensive line (depth), but also issues at LB. They let both Jordyn Brooks & Bobby Wagner leave in free agency & in a move that was made out of desperation, they had to give up a 4th round pick to acquire Ernest Jones. Thankfully, Jones is a much better player than Jonathan Mingo. :wink:

The Cowboys have not made a major move in free agency since they signed Brandon Carr. No one should be surprised that they don’t spend money on other teams free agents. That haven’t been buyers in free agency in over a decade.

What we should be surprised at is why are they trading 4th round picks for guys who are 3rd or 4th at their position on the team. If you’re going to solely build your team through the draft you have zero business trading mid round picks (or any picks) for backup players. They should be hoarding picks not giving them away.

They're not big spenders. But they also went out & acquired guys like Cooks & Gilmore in the offseason. They didn't do that this past offseason. They didn't really add anyone of significance.

Zeke & Dalvin Cook don't count. :wink:

They had a bunch of guys leave in free agency & then didn't bring in vets to replace them. Most rookie offensive lineman typically have a learning curve. So, it's not really a surprise that Guyton & Beebe have had their own growing pains as first year starters.
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Re: Week 10 

Post#358 » by Mariner » Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:32 am

Cactus Jack wrote:
Mr B wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:Guyton was viewed as a raw prospect who was a Right Tackle in college. Moving him to the left side & throwing him into the fire was a huge misstep by them. Anyone who had scouted him would know that. But I think he'll be fine at RT long-term.

The bigger issue is how they handled free agency. Relying on the draft alone to fill holes is not a winning formula obviously. Much like Jerry, the Hawks went dumpster diving in free agency & now they're paying the price for it. Not only do they have huge holes along the offensive line (depth), but also issues at LB. They let both Jordyn Brooks & Bobby Wagner leave in free agency & in a move that was made out of desperation, they had to give up a 4th round pick to acquire Ernest Jones. Thankfully, Jones is a much better player than Jonathan Mingo. :wink:

The Cowboys have not made a major move in free agency since they signed Brandon Carr. No one should be surprised that they don’t spend money on other teams free agents. That haven’t been buyers in free agency in over a decade.

What we should be surprised at is why are they trading 4th round picks for guys who are 3rd or 4th at their position on the team. If you’re going to solely build your team through the draft you have zero business trading mid round picks (or any picks) for backup players. They should be hoarding picks not giving them away.

They're not big spenders. But they also went out & acquired guys like Cooks & Gilmore in the offseason. They didn't do that this past offseason. They didn't really add anyone of significance. Zeke & Dalvin Cook don't count. :wink:

They had a bunch of guys leave in free agency & then didn't bring in vets to replace them.

The funny thing is I don’t want them to be big spenders.
You always overpay in free agency. But to ignore it all together is just as bad. I have a feeling they will spend a lot more next year with a new coaching staff.
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Re: Week 10 

Post#359 » by Cactus Jack » Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:36 am

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Mr B wrote:The Cowboys have not made a major move in free agency since they signed Brandon Carr. No one should be surprised that they don’t spend money on other teams free agents. That haven’t been buyers in free agency in over a decade.

What we should be surprised at is why are they trading 4th round picks for guys who are 3rd or 4th at their position on the team. If you’re going to solely build your team through the draft you have zero business trading mid round picks (or any picks) for backup players. They should be hoarding picks not giving them away.

They're not big spenders. But they also went out & acquired guys like Cooks & Gilmore in the offseason. They didn't do that this past offseason. They didn't really add anyone of significance. Zeke & Dalvin Cook don't count. :wink:

They had a bunch of guys leave in free agency & then didn't bring in vets to replace them.

The funny thing is I don’t want them to be big spenders.
You always overpay in free agency. But to ignore it all together is just as bad. I have a feeling they will spend a lot more next year with a new coaching staff.

You have to pick & choose when to spend. I don't like overspending on guys who are just average at their position. But more often than not I'm willing to pay a premium for top level guys.
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Re: Week 10 

Post#360 » by Micah Prescott » Tue Nov 12, 2024 3:13 pm

Mariner wrote:
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Mr B wrote:The Cowboys have not made a major move in free agency since they signed Brandon Carr. No one should be surprised that they don’t spend money on other teams free agents. That haven’t been buyers in free agency in over a decade.

What we should be surprised at is why are they trading 4th round picks for guys who are 3rd or 4th at their position on the team. If you’re going to solely build your team through the draft you have zero business trading mid round picks (or any picks) for backup players. They should be hoarding picks not giving them away.

They're not big spenders. But they also went out & acquired guys like Cooks & Gilmore in the offseason. They didn't do that this past offseason. They didn't really add anyone of significance. Zeke & Dalvin Cook don't count. :wink:

They had a bunch of guys leave in free agency & then didn't bring in vets to replace them.

The funny thing is I don’t want them to be big spenders.
You always overpay in free agency. But to ignore it all together is just as bad. I have a feeling they will spend a lot more next year with a new coaching staff.

There isn't much risk in free agency, you pretty much know exactly what you are getting. Unlike the draft which is a massive risk and you don't know what will happen. Dallas opted to draft for need at DT and LT, they took a risk, and it failed. If they had just been willing to spend a bit in FA they would have been much stronger there and then also been able to draft BPA instead.

They suck at free agency. Overpaying might be bad, but signing no one at all is worse.

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