2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 1

[Shewasfly]

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Looks pretty middle of the pack to me, despite all our complaints about small ball.

[AirP.]

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Looks pretty middle of the pack to me, despite all our complaints about small ball.

Average would be in the center which Miami is on for defender's size vs Miami's offensive player, for Miami's defender vs the other team's offensive player there's only 6 teams below Miami and one of them is Philly who hasn't had George much or Embiid at all.

[Shewasfly]

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Looks pretty middle of the pack to me, despite all our complaints about small ball.

Average would be in the center which Miami is on for defender's size vs Miami's offensive player, for Miami's defender vs the other team's offensive player there's only 6 teams below Miami and one of them is Philly who hasn't had George much or Embiid at all.

Middle of the pack would be around where all the other teams in the league are, and that's exactly where Miami is. Crowded in that lower center area.

[Pokuokic]

The Heat should trade for Jonas (on a super cheap 10mil per deal) and start him and Bam and than off the bench play through JJJ and Jovic you free up Bam from having to take physical punishment and you free up Jovic to play his natural game. The catch 22 with Jovic is he needs the ball to be good but is he currently good enough to demand that with the starting unit the answer is no but with the bench he can him and JJJ can go to work.

Highsmith needs to start and defend the opposing PG/SG depending on who is better he's pretty elite at that as long as its no one over 6'8 than he's simply to small and while a good athlete he's not a freak athlete to make up for against bigger wings.

[DayofMourning]

https://www.si.com/nba/heat/orlando-magic-urged-to-monitor-terry-rozier-s-situation-with-the-miami-heat-01jcdvs0a1dc

Hes yours!

[iamoti]

I think a lot of us will peronally drive him to Orlando! Nothing against Terry, he seems like a good guy but his fit with Tyler is clearly not there and Tyler took a leap. We need a 3 and D PG next to Tyler badly.

[contract]

https://www.si.com/nba/heat/orlando-magic-urged-to-monitor-terry-rozier-s-situation-with-the-miami-heat-01jcdvs0a1dc

Hes yours!

It's always funny when NBA writers write columns about what other NBA writers are writing about.

But yeah, anyone who wants to haul Rozier away can have him as long as they don't leave anything toxic behind.

[contract]

It's like we've never seen a Herro hot streak before.

Someone wake me when Herro doesn't end a season around his career averages.

[iamoti]

We've seen hot streaks from Herro but you can't deny he changed a lot of his bad tendencies. You can clearly see growth in his decision making. I think he can keep going. Maybe not the absurd 46% 3pt shooting. He just needs to stay healthy.

[VaDe255]

The numbers will come down, but he is a career 38.8% 3p shooter, so it's not crazy to expect him to be around the 40% mark.
The increased efficiency also comes from a higher ft frequency and more drives to the basket.

We'll see if he can stay healthy and keep it up.

[RexBoyWonder]

It's like we've never seen a Herro hot streak before.

Someone wake me when Herro doesn't end a season around his career averages.

Well to be fair to kid - he's playing at a very high level currently. Best few weeks of his career.

BUT, i'm concerned about how sustainable it is. He's hugely reliant on high volume, high % 3 point shooting. But he won't be shooting 45% from 3 all season. And as long as he's not getting to the line at a higher rate (4 FT per 36 is a slight improvement for him, but still low for a leading scorer) it's almost impossible to keep the efficiency up.

My hope is he can get to the line more, and negate the inevitable drop in 3 point % (currently shooting red hot 46% - won't stay that high for much longer).

[contract]

I was just looking back at Heat history and it hit me how young this franchise is.

The Miami Heat hadn't even been born yet when Glen "Big Baby" Davis was a big baby.

Steph Curry probably made his first basket (from the crib) before Rory Sparrow made the Heat's first basket.

[Kobewade11]

It's like we've never seen a Herro hot streak before.

Someone wake me when Herro doesn't end a season around his career averages.

lol

[VaDe255]

It's like we've never seen a Herro hot streak before.

Someone wake me when Herro doesn't end a season around his career averages.

Well to be fair to kid - he's playing at a very high level currently. Best few weeks of his career.

BUT, i'm concerned about how sustainable it is. He's hugely reliant on high volume, high % 3 point shooting. But he won't be shooting 45% from 3 all season. And as long as he's not getting to the line at a higher rate (4 FT per 36 is a slight improvement for him, but still low for a leading scorer) it's almost impossible to keep the efficiency up.

My hope is he can get to the line more, and negate the inevitable drop in 3 point % (currently shooting red hot 46% - won't stay that high for much longer).

He has the skill set to be an efficient guard in this league, he is currently at 9.7 3p attempts / 36 and 4 fts / 36.

If he can continue to shoot at 39% on those 3s and 85% on his FTs at these volumes (these are very reasonable numbers to expect), he gets to 64% TS percentage with these shots.

Now he also has to take some 2p attempts to mix up his game, he is currently at 8 attempts / 36 and making 4.5 of them. Lets say this comes down to about 4.2 makes here then he will still be at 60% TS.
All put together this is 23 ppg on 60% TS, with 17.7 fga / 4fta per 36 minutes, solid numbers for a guard.

It's all about his shot profile, because he has the game to be efficient and the fewer mid range jumpers he takes, the more efficient he can be. He is taking very few this year and it's mostly layups or floaters close to the basket.

[twix2500]

It's like we've never seen a Herro hot streak before.

Someone wake me when Herro doesn't end a season around his career averages.

Well to be fair to kid - he's playing at a very high level currently. Best few weeks of his career.

BUT, i'm concerned about how sustainable it is. He's hugely reliant on high volume, high % 3 point shooting. But he won't be shooting 45% from 3 all season. And as long as he's not getting to the line at a higher rate (4 FT per 36 is a slight improvement for him, but still low for a leading scorer) it's almost impossible to keep the efficiency up.

My hope is he can get to the line more, and negate the inevitable drop in 3 point % (currently shooting red hot 46% - won't stay that high for much longer).

Well Herro isn't shooting a high volume. He is hover around 15 to 16 fga. His average jumped up because of the Denver game which that game the pace was high.

Its always been Herro being over utilized and trying to make him something he isn't. He is playing more off ball, The turnover still rear it head when he is handling the ball.

He still struggling handling traps. Teams no this, and set him up for traps and it messes the offense up

[wadenation305]

One thing to consider (and I'm not trying to say that Herro will average 46% 3 pts for the season) But that Career 38%-39% was on horrible efficiency, taking shots out of rhythm, trying to force it. His taking cleaner shots (Rythm catch and shoots) should give him a bump in his percentages just by not taking those types of shots he used to.

[AirP.]

We've seen hot streaks from Herro but you can't deny he changed a lot of his bad tendencies. You can clearly see growth in his decision making. I think he can keep going. Maybe not the absurd 46% 3pt shooting. He just needs to stay healthy.

He's improved his shot profile, he's dropped his 2pa per36 to his rookie season numbers but has increased his 3pta over 2.5 per36, so that should improve his efficiency a good amount so if he keeps up this shot profile he should shoot at his best efficiency and scoring amount of his career even if he comes down closer to his career shooting numbers for most of the regular season. It'll be interesting to see how he does through the season.

Currently Herro ranks in the NBA...
5th for 3s made a game at 4.
21st in ppg.
30th in TS% (10 of those in front of him are centers).

Most of the top scoring is the same players although Norman Powell is currently 13th in ppg with a .683 TS% with 11 games played.

Also, league 3pt%, TS% and ORTG early in this season are down overall in the league from last year...
3pt% .366 -> .355
TS% .580 -> .573
ORTG 115.3 -> 113.1

[wadenation305]

We've seen hot streaks from Herro but you can't deny he changed a lot of his bad tendencies. You can clearly see growth in his decision making. I think he can keep going. Maybe not the absurd 46% 3pt shooting. He just needs to stay healthy.

He's improved his shot profile, he's dropped his 2pa per36 to his rookie season numbers but has increased his 3pta over 2.5 per36, so that should improve his efficiency a good amount so if he keeps up this shot profile he should shoot at his best efficiency and scoring amount of his career even if he comes down closer to his career shooting numbers for most of the regular season. It'll be interesting to see how he does through the season.

Currently Herro ranks in the NBA...
5th for 3s made a game at 4.
21st in ppg.
30th in TS% (10 of those in front of him are centers).

Most of the top scoring is the same players although Norman Powell is currently 13th in ppg with a .683 TS% with 11 games played.

Also, league 3pt%, TS% and ORTG early in this season are down overall in the league from last year...
3pt% .366 -> .355
TS% .580 -> .573
ORTG 115.3 -> 113.1

So basically (At the moment) Herro is playing like a top 20 player in this league?

[AirP.]

We've seen hot streaks from Herro but you can't deny he changed a lot of his bad tendencies. You can clearly see growth in his decision making. I think he can keep going. Maybe not the absurd 46% 3pt shooting. He just needs to stay healthy.

He's improved his shot profile, he's dropped his 2pa per36 to his rookie season numbers but has increased his 3pta over 2.5 per36, so that should improve his efficiency a good amount so if he keeps up this shot profile he should shoot at his best efficiency and scoring amount of his career even if he comes down closer to his career shooting numbers for most of the regular season. It'll be interesting to see how he does through the season.

Currently Herro ranks in the NBA...
5th for 3s made a game at 4.
21st in ppg.
30th in TS% (10 of those in front of him are centers).

Most of the top scoring is the same players although Norman Powell is currently 13th in ppg with a .683 TS% with 11 games played.

Also, league 3pt%, TS% and ORTG early in this season are down overall in the league from last year...
3pt% .366 -> .355
TS% .580 -> .573
ORTG 115.3 -> 113.1

So basically (At the moment) Herro is playing like a top 20 player in this league?

No, do you consider Norman Powell a top 10 player with him being 13th in the league in scoring with a TS% of .683?

Right now, Cam Thomas and DeRozan are both averaging over 24 ppg and my thoughts on them haven't changed on them, it's early in the season.

If you think this is the case for Herro, then you also need to think Bam isn't anywhere near a top 10 center, not that he's just having a tough time at the start of the season.

[twix2500]

Spo needs to be really working Bam and Rozier. They gotta learn how to play in this offense.

Need Jovic to play angry. Need someone to be Draymond and piss Jovic off on every game night lol

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