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Re: Bucks rebuild framework OKC/NOP/DET/ORL/ATL 

Post#21 » by Mavrelous » Tue Nov 12, 2024 2:34 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Once again, please stop wasting everyone's time with these OKC offers for Giannis that aren't being built around Chet/Jalen.

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Re: Bucks rebuild framework OKC/NOP/DET/ORL/ATL 

Post#22 » by Ron Swanson » Tue Nov 12, 2024 3:11 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Once again, please stop wasting everyone's time with these OKC offers for Giannis that aren't being built around Chet/Jalen.

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I'm unaware of any past history here, but I amended the initial sentence if you felt it was some sort of personal attack (I assure you it wasn't). At the same time, I further outlined my reasoning for why this is just straight up bad value here. Giannis on an extension through 2027 is probably the most valuable realistically available trade chip we've seen in decades. This offer doesn't come close to reflecting that. Zero blue-chip prospects, and beyond the sticker shock of "look at how many firsts!!", very little in actual quality draft assets that have a reasonable chance of yielding Top-5 and Top-10 picks. Forget the AD trade haul, this is worse than the return OKC got for Paul George by a significant margin, even without the benefit of hindsight.
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Re: Bucks rebuild framework OKC/NOP/DET/ORL/ATL 

Post#23 » by Mavrelous » Tue Nov 12, 2024 4:29 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Once again, please stop wasting everyone's time with these OKC offers for Giannis that aren't being built around Chet/Jalen.

The thread author name can be viewed w/o opening it, for the future, avoid my threads if you find it a waste of time, because I will post whatever I see fit, regardless of your opinion of what constitutes as a waste of time.


I'm unaware of any past history here, but I amended the initial sentence if you felt it was some sort of personal attack (I assure you it wasn't). At the same time, I further outlined my reasoning for why this is just straight up bad value here. Giannis on an extension through 2027 is probably the most valuable realistically available trade chip we've seen in decades. This offer doesn't come close to reflecting that. Zero blue-chip prospects, and beyond the sticker shock of "look at how many firsts!!", very little in actual quality draft assets that have a reasonable chance of yielding Top-5 and Top-10 picks. Forget the AD trade haul, this is worse than the return OKC got for Paul George by a significant margin, even without the benefit of hindsight.


No history, just clarifying my posting plans...
I didn't just throw spaghetti at the wall, I think it was well thought post, I am frequently wrong, but sometimes right, I may have different valuations than others and am happy to discuss, that's why this board exists, hard to do when the opening position is that I'm wasting people's time, it's a message board, people are here on their spare time.
What makes OKC picks unique is that they aren't just OK picks, they are picks from many teams and Bucks will be getting the best of them, they are very valuable picks.
I admit this maybe less than AD trade for example, but Giannis is older, and has injury history for few years now, in general, I tend to price older superstars lower than most, I, for example, was very adamant on Dame being worth less than was proposed on this board, I think most would agree now, Bucks overpaid...
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Re: Bucks rebuild framework OKC/NOP/DET/ORL/ATL 

Post#24 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Tue Nov 12, 2024 5:25 pm

I’m a big Dame fan and the Magic need EXACTLY what he can offer, but if he isn’t happy in Milwaukee I’m not sure things will be any different in Orlando.

Orlando FO is hyper critical to the players they bring in and don’t think with how things are unfolding in Milwaukee that they would show much interest.

Also, even though Dame is still playing at a high level he comes with baggage and would put the Magic in the 2nd apron.

Not sure if Lillard and the financial implications/limitations warrants shelving x2 UNPROTECTED FRP’s.

I would feel a little better if the picks were a little different. Maybe quantity over potential quality.

Something like

‘25 FRP (via Denver)
‘26 FRP (via PHX or WAS)
‘27 FRP (via ORL - lottery pro. or x2 SRP)
‘26 SRP (via MIL or DET)
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Re: Bucks rebuild framework OKC/NOP/DET/ORL/ATL 

Post#25 » by JonHeist » Wed Nov 13, 2024 5:46 pm

Mavrelous wrote:The Giannis trade:
OKC sends IHart, Topic and Dieng + draft capital for Giannis, Thanasis and Corey Joseph
The best 2 25 1sts OKC have
The best 2 26 1sts OKC have
The best 2 27 1sts OKC have
OKC 28 1st (with the swap with DAL)
Best of OKC 29 1st and DEN 29 1st
OKC 2030 1st



Thanasis isn't even on an NBA roster fwiw

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