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Re: Cooper Flagg 

Post#681 » by Rainwater » Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:29 pm

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Rainwater wrote:Are people only comparing AK and Cooper because they are white? lol. These two play nothing alike. Coopers offensive potential is far more apparent than AK’s.


AK was defensive genius, and very well rounded offensive player, tho not a go to guy. That sounds a lot like Flagg, I think the comparison is valid. Flagg probably has superior big man like defnesive qualities, altho he does not necessarily have bigman body. I used to compare him to KG the most, but watching him now, he does play more and more like a wing, I was most familiar with him from that FIBA tournament, where he played at center, and looked like if you put All NBA defender to play 17 year olds.


I get the all around offensive player but Flagg offensive skills are way better than AK’s. AK never had the one on one ability of that Flagg has and he looks like a point forward. His game looks closer to a Paolo or LBJ than AK.
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Re: Cooper Flagg 

Post#682 » by NYPiston » Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:54 pm

Put this in the draft thread but this one is much more active so I'll leave it here...

I know he turned the ball over twice down the stretch but he is absolutely the real deal. He looked like an NBA player playing college ball. Honestly, one of the most impressive debuts (against a real school) that I've seen in a long time. His game is so complete already at both ends of the court and he's 17 which is crazy, I can understand the hype.
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Re: Cooper Flagg 

Post#683 » by NYPiston » Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:55 pm

Rainwater wrote:Are people only comparing AK and Cooper because they are white? lol. These two play nothing alike. Coopers offensive potential is far more apparent than AK’s.


Kirilenko? That's a crazy comp. Flagg's offensive arsenal is far more advanced while having the AK47 defensive ability, athleticism.
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Re: Cooper Flagg 

Post#684 » by UcanUwill » Wed Nov 13, 2024 5:17 pm

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UcanUwill wrote:
Rainwater wrote:Are people only comparing AK and Cooper because they are white? lol. These two play nothing alike. Coopers offensive potential is far more apparent than AK’s.


AK was defensive genius, and very well rounded offensive player, tho not a go to guy. That sounds a lot like Flagg, I think the comparison is valid. Flagg probably has superior big man like defnesive qualities, altho he does not necessarily have bigman body. I used to compare him to KG the most, but watching him now, he does play more and more like a wing, I was most familiar with him from that FIBA tournament, where he played at center, and looked like if you put All NBA defender to play 17 year olds.


I get the all around offensive player but Flagg offensive skills are way better than AK’s. AK never had the one on one ability of that Flagg has and he looks like a point forward. His game looks closer to a Paolo or LBJ than AK.


I mean, before Duke debut, his scoring ability was questioned moreso I would say, I think he is proving that he should be more than what AK47 was, altho AK was very good, but just never completely healthy. But yeah, AK was third scoring option in the NBA, hopefully Flagg can be first. His defense should be elite day one, his offense still needs to grow tho.
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Re: Cooper Flagg 

Post#685 » by Rainwater » Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:46 pm

NYPiston wrote:
Rainwater wrote:Are people only comparing AK and Cooper because they are white? lol. These two play nothing alike. Coopers offensive potential is far more apparent than AK’s.


Kirilenko? That's a crazy comp. Flagg's offensive arsenal is far more advanced while having the AK47 defensive ability, athleticism.


Yeah, don’t get the comparison.
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Re: Cooper Flagg 

Post#686 » by azcatz11 » Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:57 pm

Rainwater wrote:
NYPiston wrote:
Rainwater wrote:Are people only comparing AK and Cooper because they are white? lol. These two play nothing alike. Coopers offensive potential is far more apparent than AK’s.


Kirilenko? That's a crazy comp. Flagg's offensive arsenal is far more advanced while having the AK47 defensive ability, athleticism.


Yeah, don’t get the comparison.


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Re: Cooper Flagg 

Post#687 » by Special_Puppy » Wed Nov 13, 2024 7:04 pm

What % of the AK comparison is because they are both white?
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Re: Cooper Flagg 

Post#688 » by sikma42 » Wed Nov 13, 2024 7:55 pm

I’m interested how he develops physically. He’s not a dominate defender now but that bc he is 17. But what does he project into? I’ve heard some comps but Scottie Pippen (at least athletically) is very interesting


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Re: Cooper Flagg 

Post#689 » by dc » Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:12 pm

sikma42 wrote:I’m interested how he develops physically. He’s not a dominate defender now but that bc he is 17. But what does he project into? I’ve heard some comps but Scottie Pippen (at least athletically) is very interesting


It's hard to project because he's physically not a true "true big" such as AD or Chet, but he does have big man qualities and he plays like a big at the college level defensively.

It's sort of like Battier back at Duke. Battier played as a full time 4 in college and was a legit shotblocker/paint presence and he blocked over 2 shots a game his junior/senior year. In the pros, he transitioned to more of a wing/all around defender.

But if he can be Kirilenko like on defense and Pippen/Tatum like on offense, then that's a fantastic prospect and well justified to be a #1 pick. Again, that doesn't make him an AD level prospect, but still a more than solid #1 overall pick.
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Re: Cooper Flagg 

Post#690 » by ChuckChilly » Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:39 pm

Special_Puppy wrote:What % of the AK comparison is because they are both white?


Seems like a valid comparison though even if its kind of a racial thing. Same thing with Reed Sheppard and Mark Price.
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Re: Cooper Flagg 

Post#691 » by D.Brasco » Wed Nov 13, 2024 10:59 pm

I've analyzed Cooper's game in depth and he's a combination of Chris Mullin, Larry Bird, Steve Nash, Georghe Muresan, John Stockton, Gradey Dick, Jerry West, with some Jason Kidd in him.
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Re: Cooper Flagg 

Post#692 » by Cavsfansince84 » Wed Nov 13, 2024 11:15 pm

The talk on Cooper reminds me of the talk of Luka before he got drafted tbh. A small segment who are determined to try and get everyone else to believe that both were all hype and can't be great in the nba. A huge % of people on this board were certain that Luka's lack of athleticism meant he could never be a great scorer in the nba. You already have people trying to say what Flagg's ceiling is when he's only 17 years old and that it is below all nba level. I think chances are that he will be very good by year 2(at age 19 or 20) and top 10 caliber by age 22/23 if not better.
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Re: Cooper Flagg 

Post#693 » by dc » Thu Nov 14, 2024 12:12 am

Cavsfansince84 wrote:The talk on Cooper reminds me of the talk of Luka before he got drafted tbh. A small segment who are determined to try and get everyone else to believe that both were all hype and can't be great in the nba. A huge % of people on this board were certain that Luka's lack of athleticism meant he could never be a great scorer in the nba. You already have people trying to say what Flagg's ceiling is when he's only 17 years old and that it is below all nba level. I think chances are that he will be very good by year 2(at age 19 or 20) and top 10 caliber by age 22/23 if not better.


I think there's really only a couple questions with Flagg:

1. what level of offensive creator can he be. If he's a Tatum level guy, that's probably going to be enough to "satisfy" most people as a #1 overall pick.

2. What is his "true" size/wingspan. If he's between 6'8"-6'9" (or taller) w/o shoes with an over 7 foot wingspan, that should be enough to be a full time 4 with the versatility to guard more than that. If he's merely just over 6'7" w/o shoes with an under 7 foot wingspan, then he's just a good size really not much of a physical freak.

Overall, I'd say he looks pretty damn solid as a #1 overall pick and the team who wins the lottery will be pretty happy.
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Re: Cooper Flagg 

Post#694 » by GiggitySmalls » Thu Nov 14, 2024 12:17 am

Pretty good for a kid who should be a senior in highschool. I think most people forget that.

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Where will Cooper Flagg get drafted ? 

Post#695 » by Sweet Serenity » Thu Nov 14, 2024 5:40 am

Where will he get drafted ?
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Re: Where will Cooper Flagg get drafted ? 

Post#696 » by Iwasawitness » Thu Nov 14, 2024 5:40 am

How are we supposed to know?
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Re: Where will Cooper Flagg get drafted ? 

Post#697 » by Jasen777 » Thu Nov 14, 2024 5:43 am

Brooklyn, that's where everyone is drafted.
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Re: Where will Cooper Flagg get drafted ? 

Post#698 » by One_and_Done » Thu Nov 14, 2024 5:44 am

San Antonio via Atlanta hopefully.
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Re: Where will Cooper Flagg get drafted ? 

Post#699 » by California Gold » Thu Nov 14, 2024 5:50 am

The league is hoping to revitalize Utah. Perfect fit.
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Re: Where will Cooper Flagg get drafted ? 

Post#700 » by DavidSterned » Thu Nov 14, 2024 5:53 am

The thread where everybody votes for their team.

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