Stephen Curry All-NBA (2nd) Jimmy Butler and Draymond 24-25 NBA Season Thread

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Re: Stephen Curry 24-25 NBA Season Thread 

Post#21 » by tsherkin » Sun Nov 10, 2024 8:23 pm

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I think what is most exciting GSW fans is the return of their defense and the injection of some extra scoring/shooting. That puts them right back on the map of teams which will be very interesting once the playoffs start.


Its also interesting because they are doing it with Steph missing games and only putting up 20ppg.


Well, Hield's unsustainable shooting had some to do with that. And Steph was never a defensive anchor. And Steph scored 24 and 27 points in the two games preceding the blow-out loss, so that average was on the rise.

Sample size is dictating some of the numbers here, so it's worth looking more deeply into the material.
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Re: Stephen Curry 24-25 NBA Season Thread 

Post#22 » by The-Power » Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:33 am

Curry with his two best games of the season coming against BOS (best in the league) and OKC (best in the West) on the road. He still lives for these games and moments.
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Re: Stephen Curry 24-25 NBA Season Thread 

Post#23 » by tsherkin » Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:10 pm

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I think what is most exciting GSW fans is the return of their defense and the injection of some extra scoring/shooting. That puts them right back on the map of teams which will be very interesting once the playoffs start.


Its also interesting because they are doing it with Steph missing games and only putting up 20ppg.


Well, Hield's unsustainable shooting had some to do with that. And Steph was never a defensive anchor. And Steph scored 24 and 27 points in the two games preceding the blow-out loss, so that average was on the rise.

Sample size is dictating some of the numbers here, so it's worth looking more deeply into the material.


So now slipping back to this a game later...

And Steph dropped 36/5/7 on 13/23 FG, 7/13 from 3, 3/4 at the line. A steal, a block, 3 turnovers. 2/3 from 3 in the 4th. 7/10 from the field in the 3rd, including 2/4 from 3. Dropped a BOMB on the Thunder.
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Re: Stephen Curry 24-25 NBA Season Thread 

Post#24 » by EmpireFalls » Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:15 pm

Convince me they aren’t winning the West this year.

They’re the tier 1 favourite in the West to me.
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Re: Stephen Curry 24-25 NBA Season Thread 

Post#25 » by tsherkin » Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:01 pm

EmpireFalls wrote:Convince me they aren’t winning the West this year.

They’re the tier 1 favourite in the West to me.


Right off the hop (but these numbers are from before last night's game), they're 3rd in the league and 2nd in the West in SRS. Top-4 O, top-2 defense. 3rd in Net Rating.

There's a pretty good chance the D sticks. They've added some extra pieces and Kerr is doing great things.

But the O is predicated on some serious shooting. 42.9% from Draymond on 3.1 3PA/g. My guy couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with an artillery fusillade for the majority of his career, and has been assisted on 96.6% of his 3s across his career. That isn't going to last.

Hield is still shooting 49.4% on 8.6 3PA/g, which is going to calm down. Wiggins may stay around this level, but I"d expect a little regression because he isn't in the corner enough and he isn't an especially strong above-break shooter over his career.

Moody is shooting 47.4% from 3 on over 4 attempts per game.

You see what I mean? There's going to be some normalization there, so we'll see what happens to that offense. And as that offense dips, so too their chances of exiting the West. Leastwise, enough that it stops being so likely a thing.

Last night from 3, Wiggins was 2/4, Melton was 5/8, Kuminga was 2/4 (and he's a career 34% shooter), Hield was 2/5, Moody was 1/3, Draymond was 2/3. They shot 48.8% overall from downtown.

That's not something you can rely on game to game. It's going to settle some over a longer stretch. We will still need another 20 games or more to get a better idea of what they're going to look like over the season, and what this offense is going to look like as the playoffs arrive.
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Re: Stephen Curry 24-25 NBA Season Thread 

Post#26 » by parsnips33 » Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:31 pm

Neither here nor there, but last time the Warriors won the title they had the #1 rated defense and the #17 rated offense

With that being said the league is just loaded with good teams this year. Would take a real Cinderella story for the Dubs to pull this off...
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Re: Stephen Curry 24-25 NBA Season Thread 

Post#27 » by tsherkin » Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:46 pm

parsnips33 wrote:Neither here nor there, but last time the Warriors won the title they had the #1 rated defense and the #17 rated offense


True. But Klay played 32 games in the RS, Steph played 64 and Draymond 46. So their RS offense didn't accurately reflect their ability.
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Re: Stephen Curry 24-25 NBA Season Thread 

Post#28 » by Cavsfansince84 » Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:15 pm

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So now slipping back to this a game later...

And Steph dropped 36/5/7 on 13/23 FG, 7/13 from 3, 3/4 at the line. A steal, a block, 3 turnovers. 2/3 from 3 in the 4th. 7/10 from the field in the 3rd, including 2/4 from 3. Dropped a BOMB on the Thunder.


I saw he had his first real good game of the season. I mean its inevitable he will have those games. It's more a question of how reliant they will be on Steph and how he holds up at age 36. Not much separation between the 1st and 6th best teams in the west unless Okc finds their groove and stays healthy so Steph holding up is key.
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Re: Stephen Curry 24-25 NBA Season Thread 

Post#29 » by tsherkin » Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:34 pm

Cavsfansince84 wrote: I saw he had his first real good game of the season. I mean its inevitable he will have those games. It's more a question of how reliant they will be on Steph and how he holds up at age 36. Not much separation between the 1st and 6th best teams in the west unless Okc finds their groove and stays healthy so Steph holding up is key.


Really? He was playing well versus the Clippers, and he smoked the Celtics, too...
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Post#30 » by TroubleS0me » Mon Nov 11, 2024 8:34 pm

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Re: Stephen Curry 24-25 NBA Season Thread 

Post#31 » by parsnips33 » Mon Nov 11, 2024 8:42 pm

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Post#32 » by TroubleS0me » Tue Nov 12, 2024 11:41 pm

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Post#33 » by parsnips33 » Tue Nov 12, 2024 11:44 pm

This is gonna be a hell of a game
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Post#34 » by TroubleS0me » Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:43 am

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Re: Stephen Curry 24-25 NBA Season Thread 

Post#35 » by parsnips33 » Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:09 am

parsnips33 wrote:This is gonna be a hell of a game


Only one of the best games of this Warriors era

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Re: Stephen Curry 24-25 NBA Season Thread 

Post#36 » by EmpireFalls » Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:11 am

Still waiting for a rebuttal to the Warriors being the best in the Western Conference. They’re the clear favourites.
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Re: Stephen Curry 24-25 NBA Season Thread 

Post#37 » by tsherkin » Wed Nov 13, 2024 1:55 pm

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That was a good one.

EmpireFalls wrote:Still waiting for a rebuttal to the Warriors being the best in the Western Conference. They’re the clear favourites.


Them explicitly not being the best in the West at the moment remains the best rebuttal. They're tied in record with 2 other teams in conference and the Thunder still have a better net rating for the moment. But they are rising, so we'll see what happens. Steph's had a couple of huge games recently, so we'll see what happens when he settles back down to earth for a few games.
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Re: Stephen Curry 24-25 NBA Season Thread 

Post#38 » by parsnips33 » Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:29 pm

Just wait for the playoffs why do we need to crown best in the West in November

Appreciate what we saw last night
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Re: Stephen Curry 24-25 NBA Season Thread 

Post#39 » by oaktownwarriors87 » Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:38 pm

EmpireFalls wrote:Still waiting for a rebuttal to the Warriors being the best in the Western Conference. They’re the clear favourites.


The don't have a real 2nd scoring option. This makes the team fragile.
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Re: Stephen Curry 24-25 NBA Season Thread 

Post#40 » by EmpireFalls » Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:39 pm

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Them explicitly not being the best in the West at the moment remains the best rebuttal. They're tied in record with 2 other teams in conference and the Thunder still have a better net rating for the moment. But they are rising, so we'll see what happens. Steph's had a couple of huge games recently, so we'll see what happens when he settles back down to earth for a few games.

They smacked the Thunder just this week. I don’t even think we should count the Thunder, who are now basically a cross-off, due to Chet and Hartenstein being hurt. Without those two they’ll do nothing.

So who else is there? The Suns? KD is already hurt and Nurkic is unplayable in this matchup. They aren’t going to be able to score consistently vs GS. They basically have no weaknesses

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