The Time to Trade him is Now

[michaelm]

If Warriors trade for Antetokounmpo I think that the trade package should be around Green not Wiggins.
If they can build something sufficient.

Green and Antetokounmpo play the same position and both cannot shoot.

The current version of Wiggins and the 2022 version are extremely valuable, and probably more so for GSW than any other team, and his contract in his current form is a bargain. If they are not intent on trading him GSW is also a good place for him, he is at his best defensively at least with Green quarterbacking the defense, and with whom Wiggs has excellent synergy. Imo being the number one player on any team is not really his bag, he is not quite good enough as a playmaker or shooter, but he is also very valuable offensively at his best in his role at GSW. He seems to actually be better as a clutch scorer than he is generally, not a bad trait to have as well as a rare one. In short I too am a major fan, and my preference is to see him playing at his best for GSW rather than elsewhere. He is reputedly family orientated big time, and it is understandable if he was not fully focussed the last 2 seasons when they didn’t have the troops to play their tried and tried method anyway as has been said on the other thread, and also didn’t play him in his best role.

Giannis is a pipe dream imo in any case, other teams have more to offer the Bucks, and I am not sure why he would choose GSW at this stage in the careers of Curry and Green

[Old_Blue]

I really can't see Giannis coming here unless there is some kind of trade demand, and even then it's hard with the cap.

Again with the trade demand. It's like talking to a hamster. Except that in the case of the hamster, you can be 100% sure that he's not purposely being obtuse. He just wants some lettuce and couldn't give a rat's ass about anything else.

[DonaldSanders]

I really can't see Giannis coming here unless there is some kind of trade demand, and even then it's hard with the cap.

Again with the trade demand. It's like talking to a hamster. Except that in the case of the hamster, you can be 100% sure that he's not purposely being obtuse. He just wants some lettuce and couldn't give a rat's ass about anything else.

Bruh... you were the one who just said OKC has the package, so how else is Giannis coming here? Is our package better than OKC's? And I've not said it's likely, just would be the only possible way.

[WarriorGM]

I'd rather in a few years we're debating what pose is best for his statue.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Bridges is struggling badly on the Knicks. Hes always had a tough time with SF's, but now guards are cooking him too. That could be something to look into if mjd really wants to unload wiggins. No idea how much draft capital would be needed. I know thibs would welcome him.

[vagelis]

I think this is Wiggins best version now and he can have a great season.

I think he is more polished than ever now.
He can now not only handle the ball good enough but he has developed dribbling moves and surpasses defenders with dribbling moves.

He has developed the last years one foot layups while in his first years he only tried to dunk with 2 feet when he was driving.

He always starts slow the seasons and he had some injuries(back and knee) this season and an illness that set him a little back and plays a little injured.
So, I think he will raise his performanses from now on.


He needs to be involved an he needs to play more than 30mpg.

He clearly is the best sg/sf of the team.
Great defender, good 3pt shooter, good decision making, plays winning basketball, great athlete and super light feet.

[giberish]

First, Giannis isn't relevant to GS in any way. At all.

Back to the OP and Wiggins. I certainly wouldn't be averse to dealing Wiggins, but I don't really see the need to move him either.

1) His contract is 'movable' but he's not drawing any meaningful return value (obviously in the very unlikely event that a team is giving real, significant value for Wiggins this changes but I don't see it).
2) His contract is kind of large, but really isn't in the way. Just salary-dumping him isn't really useful for GS.
3) He does play a meaningful rotation role. Right now GS really only has two guys who are full-sized SF options and solid 3-point threats and Moody's even a little small as a SF. GS probably isn't getting a replacement player like that back in a Wiggins deal as the teams most interested in him would be teams lacking that sort of player.

In general, Wiggins shouldn't be untouchable but trading Wiggins just to trade Wiggins feels pointless at best.

[Impuniti]

Wiggins has to stay unless an unbelievable trade shows up in their doorstep. I completely disagree with this thought process. Dray-Wiggins-Melton is also probably the best defensive trio in the league in terms of switching, flexibility. This is making a move to make it rather than gaining more out of it.

[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

Remember when I said the time to trade Klay was now 1.5 years ago?

Well, it's time to trade Wiggins.

And yes, I understand that he defends Tatum great. I understand that he was awesome in the '22 chip. I get that he can be the #2 scorer for the team. I don't disagree with any of that.

The time to trade him is now. Before the deadline this season. He is not getting back to '22 form.

His contract is not awful. He is movable.

No, this is the wrong time to trade Wiggins.
Do we want to be as good as we can be now while we still have Curry and do we want to rebuild?
With Wiggins we probably make the copies final this year. Without Wiggins we are a play in team.
I think Wiggins main problem was his father’s death approaching. Now Wiggins father is dead, and that’s better.
I think Wiggins can return to 2022 form. He isn’t physically diminished from old age, but rather it was mental health issues and they are better now that his father is dead.

I know from experience that the impending death of your father can be emotionally disruptive. Mitchell Wiggins may not have been an easy person to have as a father.

Kuminga is ready for two timelines now because while Kuminga is still somewhat defensively stupid he is no longer so stupid that you can’t have a a good rotating defense with Kuminga on the floor.

[Scoots1994]

Giannis is not getting traded this year. He has to demand out to be moved, and it's not looking like he is going to, and even if he did the fit and available trades are limited during the year.

This is the second time I've read this crap. The only NBA players who have no-trade clauses are LeBron and Bradley Beal. That's it. Giannis' opinion in the matter is like his butt hole...He's got one, but it's not going to keep him from getting traded if the Bucks see fit to do so.

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2024/07/nba-players-who-can-veto-trades-in-2024-25.html

Ownership knows they will never recover if they trade Giannis without Giannis asking first. It's not about the player, it's about the franchise.

[Scoots1994]

If they want to trade someone, it will be to trade Dame and fill the team out around Giannis.

The Bucks are screwed no matter what they do. ALL of their own first round picks through until 2030 have either been outright traded away or are subject to another team's option to swap picks. It's like a case study in how not to construct an NBA squad. Of course, they also get bonus points for the asinine trade that resulted in Jrue Holiday ending up in Boston.

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

They also hired Doc.

They are so dedicated to Giannis that they traded everything away and are paying 3 head coaches to try to keep him.

The reality is that they probably should have blown it up last offseason to get as many picks and bad contracts back as possible, because after this year value will just go down.