Game Thread – Celtics @ Nets – Wed. 7:30PM, Nov. 13, 2024

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Previously, With The BOSTON CELTICS . . .

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Regular Season, Victory Count, 2024-25
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Victory Cigar

(6) Jayson Tatum
(3) Payton Pritchard


Ties go to the Team. – Cut-off Time, is when the next Game Thread is made.
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(3) Jaylen Brown
(2) Derrick White
(1) Team/Mazzulla
(1) Luke Kornet
(1) Payton Pritchard
(1) Jayson Tatum

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[Fierce1]

This should be interesting.

Let's see how the Cs respond after a loss on the 2nd night of a back to back.

[darrendaye]

Ok, bring on the Nets.

[zoyathedestroya]

One more loss before I panic. And I’m not about to panic on a Thursday morning. So don’t you dare lose again, Cs!

[Celts17Pride]

Would love to see a Celtics game where they defended for 48 minutes. Who knows? Maybe tonight.

[ThePigeon]

I can't take another low energy dumb game
I see these games live in the middle of the night (2:30am) so please at least show some effort

[Fierce1]

I can't take another low energy dumb game
I see these games live in the middle of the night (2:30am) so please at least show some effort

Would you take a high energy smart game but the Cs still lose?

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

- Supposedly any team that wins the Crappy Cup, has to raise a banner, so at least you don't have to worry about that for a while...

- The witchcraft and magic of the floor has been removed, so the Celtics should win.

- Al needs to be sent to the bench and stay there for the rest of the season.

- It wasn't Trae's fault that Capela dominated the Celtics Bigs.

- I expect Daniels to finish second in the DPOY after Wemby. He's reminiscent of a nicer Artest for a new Millennium or maybe Scottie Pippen. Some nice drafting by the Hawks, though they've had the Lottery Picks...

[ThePigeon]

I can't take another low energy dumb game
I see these games live in the middle of the night (2:30am) so please at least show some effort

Would you take a high energy smart game but the Cs still lose?

Probably. Beats playing like crap and winning (team dependent - you know you can't beat the best playing like crap)
I want to see effort and good basketball. If we give it all and we lose - that's life. You can't win them all
And I want to see pride and that the players care

"What they gonna say now?!" moments

[playa-hater]

Would love to see a Celtics game where they defended for 48 minutes. Who knows? Maybe tonight.

48??? That sounds greedy.. I'd settle for just the 2nd half at this point.

[playa-hater]

If Horford does sit as expected. I definitely want to see a full starters minutes out of Queta. But damn I don't trust Joe.. He might just throw Kornet into the starting spot and kill me.

** But let me be clear, I still like Kornet and X Tillman. Just want everyone to play accordingly to what's best for the team. Queta has done both play well and helped ignite Boston when he plays. Certainly more than the others including Horford. Also considering all 3 of Al, Kornet and X Man are at or extremely close to their ceilings. Queta still has some significant room to grow.

[ThePigeon]

If Horford does sit as expected. I definitely want to see a full starters minutes out of Queta. But damn I don't trust Joe.. He might just throw Kornet into the starting spot and kill me.

** But let me be clear, I still like Kornet and X Tillman. Just want everyone to play accordingly to what's best for the team. Queta has done both play well and helped ignite Boston when he plays. Certainly more than the others including Horford. Also considering all 3 of Al, Kornet and X Man are at or extremely close to their ceilings. Queta still has some significant room to grow.

I want to see more Queta, but he is a liability on defense the last couple of games. He misses assignments and gets confused leading to open 3s or layups
OTOH we got some nice blocks
I want to see more awareness from all and pushing and shouting to set players in the right position on defense. Saw Joker do it constantly with the young players

On offense the passers need to understand that Queta isn't Timelord and pass to lobs accordingly. Maybe a step above Kornet

[ConstableGeneva]

Queta is great for our offensive rebounding but has been so so bad for our defensive rebounding. The team rebounding numbers when he's on the floor bear it out. It's usually 'cos he's out of position in defense to begin with or has a bad closeout or just goes after every block instead of just being solid like Horford/Kornet. I think whole team needs to help out with crashing the defensive glass when Q is the lone big.

[ConstableGeneva]

When possessions start to become stagnant with the JT/JB isos/postups, can we please give the ball to White instead and run a basic PnR? Feels like we've gotten good looks out of White PnRs/handoffs unless it's a lob to Queta.

[playa-hater]

When possessions start to become stagnant with the JT/JB isos/postups, can we please give the ball to White instead and run a basic PnR? Feels like we've gotten good looks out of White PnRs/handoffs unless it's a lob to Queta.

Absolutely on White as I state almost every Game thread, and I wish Boston would do pick and Rolls on 90% of possessions. Just mix up the players. But definitely think White is one of the Best when involved.

[playa-hater]

Queta is great for our offensive rebounding but has been so so bad for our defensive rebounding. The team rebounding numbers when he's on the floor bear it out. It's usually 'cos he's out of position in defense to begin with or has a bad closeout or just goes after every block instead of just being solid like Horford/Kornet. I think whole team needs to help out with crashing the defensive glass when Q is the lone big.

I don't have the numbers but it does seem to me lack-of defensive rebounds are with all our centers but mostly Al.. at least lately.

[ConstableGeneva]

Queta is great for our offensive rebounding but has been so so bad for our defensive rebounding. The team rebounding numbers when he's on the floor bear it out. It's usually 'cos he's out of position in defense to begin with or has a bad closeout or just goes after every block instead of just being solid like Horford/Kornet. I think whole team needs to help out with crashing the defensive glass when Q is the lone big.

I don't have the numbers but it does seem to me lack-of defensive rebounds are with all our centers but mostly Al.. at least lately.

Team defensive rebounding % when Al on the floor: 73.8% (best among our bigs)
Team defensive rebounding % when Q on the floor: 66.7% (worst among our bigs)

Then flip those numbers (pretty much) when they're off the floor.

EDIT: They were equally bad vs. the Hawks.

[Celts17Pride]

Queta is great for our offensive rebounding but has been so so bad for our defensive rebounding. The team rebounding numbers when he's on the floor bear it out. It's usually 'cos he's out of position in defense to begin with or has a bad closeout or just goes after every block instead of just being solid like Horford/Kornet. I think whole team needs to help out with crashing the defensive glass when Q is the lone big.

I don't have the numbers but it does seem to me lack-of defensive rebounds are with all our centers but mostly Al.. at least lately.

Team defensive rebounding % when Al on the floor: 73.8% (best among our bigs)
Team defensive rebounding % when Q on the floor: 66.7% (worst among our bigs)

Then flip those numbers (pretty much) when they're off the floor.

EDIT: They were equally bad vs. the Hawks.

Defensive rebounding is where Queta has to excel if he plans on being around multiple years. Be it that he is out of position or just doesn't go after ball aggressively enough, that has to be his calling card otherwise he will be gone quickly. Offensive rebounds are nice, but defensive rebounding is a must.

[bisme37]

I'd quite like to win this one please and thank you!

[ConstableGeneva]

Update on above graphic: Whitehead and Martin are AVAILABLE; Simmons is QUESTIONABLE.

Tatum AVAILABLE. Horford, Porzingis, Watson, Scheierman, Davison, and Springer all OUT for Boston.