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[Capn'O]

Though I did not want to trade Towns for Randle, I understand why the team did it and I still think Randle will be good for my squad this season. He was not good last night and his defense has been weak. Towns was a huge part of our defense last season and is sorely missed but I also think we failed to optimize Towns on offense, he was playing at about 70 percent of his offensive potential for us and we couldn't unlock him properly at PF.

I think Julius will be able to thrive a lot more at the 4 on offense but we will take a hit with the defense. I am not too worried, we might take a step back this season but I don't think Randle will be trash and I do think Dante will be awesome once he finds his grove. I also firmly believe Towns is best at center and the Knicks need to keep him there.

You'll have periods of King Julius and periods of Wandle. Hard to tell when the switch will flip or how long it will last. Sometimes you get a whole year of one or the other.

[aggo]

Though I did not want to trade Towns for Randle, I understand why the team did it and I still think Randle will be good for my squad this season. He was not good last night and his defense has been weak. Towns was a huge part of our defense last season and is sorely missed but I also think we failed to optimize Towns on offense, he was playing at about 70 percent of his offensive potential for us and we couldn't unlock him properly at PF.

I think Julius will be able to thrive a lot more at the 4 on offense but we will take a hit with the defense. I am not too worried, we might take a step back this season but I don't think Randle will be trash and I do think Dante will be awesome once he finds his grove. I also firmly believe Towns is best at center and the Knicks need to keep him there.

You will find that Randle will never play defense with much effort at all. You will find that he can have great night's shooting from three. You will find that if his shot isn't falling his defense will be worse and he will walk around with no energy crying to the refs. He can score. He can pass. He will hunt rebounds instead of playing defense or boxing out. He is a head case. He is talented and he can shine with the ball in his hands but, he doesn't offer much off ball. You better hope he doesn't sign an extension for more than what he's making now.

Donte was weak off the bench for us. He didn't shine until he was the starter. He can get hot from downtown and almost look like Steph Curry. He's got some dog in him for sure. Hated including him in the trade but, that's the cost of getting rid of Randle for any real talent.

You guys was robbed!

you'll also find that when randle has a good game offensively, he still doesn't play defense.


but that he is also supremely good at "fake hustle" type of defense where he'll put up a lazy contest mixed in with many non-contests. he knows exactly what hes doing to the analytics and the viewers

[Im Coming Home]

Definitely don't miss watching this lazy sh*t show defense Randle plays.

KAT might not be great either. But at least he tries.

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[MrDollarBills]

Hopefully we can soon add Bogs to that list

Wait my brain is fried I totally forgot Bojan was traded for Mikal

I mean, I think he'll be fine. But I'm still nervous about him because of the cost.

You should be. He's been horrible and many are holding you responsible.

They should. I used my willpower to bring both he and KAT over here with me. If they fail, I fail.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

The Wolves should realistically start Naz and Donte, I don't know how much longer they can pretend that Reid on his own isn't a better player than Randle. All these threes Ant is taking is a biproduct of floor balance changing, he's not attacking the basket nearly as much as he did last year, and a large part of that is because Randle isn't the shooter that KAT is.

If I were them, I'd start Donte and split secondary creation between him and Reid. They both space the floor better than Randle and the ball moves freely, the fact there's such a large gap between Reid / Randle's net rating says a lot.

[HEZI]

Though I did not want to trade Towns for Randle, I understand why the team did it and I still think Randle will be good for my squad this season. He was not good last night and his defense has been weak. Towns was a huge part of our defense last season and is sorely missed but I also think we failed to optimize Towns on offense, he was playing at about 70 percent of his offensive potential for us and we couldn't unlock him properly at PF.

I think Julius will be able to thrive a lot more at the 4 on offense but we will take a hit with the defense. I am not too worried, we might take a step back this season but I don't think Randle will be trash and I do think Dante will be awesome once he finds his grove. I also firmly believe Towns is best at center and the Knicks need to keep him there.

You'll have periods of King Julius and periods of Wandle. Hard to tell when the switch will flip or how long it will last. Sometimes you get a whole year of one or the other.

Yeah it’s like a bad rollercoaster that eventually you will say I don’t want to be on this ride anymore and just want it to end. Then make sure to never go on it again

[Guano]

The Wolves should realistically start Naz and Donte, I don't know how much longer they can pretend that Reid on his own isn't a better player than Randle. All these threes Ant is taking is a biproduct of floor balance changing, he's not attacking the basket nearly as much as he did last year, and a large part of that is because Randle isn't the shooter that KAT is.

If I were them, I'd start Donte and split secondary creation between him and Reid. They both space the floor better than Randle and the ball moves freely, the fact there's such a large gap between Reid / Randle's net rating says a lot.

I dont understand why they didn't just move Randle for picks and roll with Naz. Just seems like they could have recouped some inexpensive assets while letting Naz flourish.

[Capn'O]

Wait my brain is fried I totally forgot Bojan was traded for Mikal

I mean, I think he'll be fine. But I'm still nervous about him because of the cost.

You should be. He's been horrible and many are holding you responsible.

They should. I used my willpower to bring both he and KAT over here with me. If they fail, I fail.

This is Team Captain material

[Wildcat]

Though I did not want to trade Towns for Randle, I understand why the team did it and I still think Randle will be good for my squad this season. He was not good last night and his defense has been weak. Towns was a huge part of our defense last season and is sorely missed but I also think we failed to optimize Towns on offense, he was playing at about 70 percent of his offensive potential for us and we couldn't unlock him properly at PF.

I think Julius will be able to thrive a lot more at the 4 on offense but we will take a hit with the defense. I am not too worried, we might take a step back this season but I don't think Randle will be trash and I do think Dante will be awesome once he finds his grove. I also firmly believe Towns is best at center and the Knicks need to keep him there.

I haven't watched many T-Wolves game this season. How's the PG situation there? Every time I do catch a game, Mike just seems like a less efficient CP.

Conley has fallen off a cliff so far. I think he will get back to form but this could also be him just finally getting old and falling off. Dante and Alexander-Walker are playing backup PG by committee and doing ok. Rob Dillingham is the heir to the throne but he has barely played as he is a rookie and the coach is pulling a thibs and playing a really short rotation right now. Rob probably isn't ready either.

Yeah, over at the Reddit board, there are more people disgruntled with Finch then I thought they'd be aside from the gelling concerns. I just keep looking at the PG position as their weakest right now.

[Chanel Bomber]

I think trading KAT for Randle was a mistake by the Wolves, and one that might have closed their championship window.

I understand that they were facing financial constraints, and they did have an embarrassment of riches in the frontcourt between Gobert, Naz, McDaniels and KAT. But like me going through the menu at a restaurant, it appears that they completely overthought it, and kind of lost the plot by letting go of the most talented player of that group.

Not to mention KAT's skill set enhanced Edwards's game, they had a good relationship off the court, and their timelines largely matched.

Randle's still a net positive overall despite his subpar defense, but he's an awful fit on Minnesota with Edwards and Gobert, and if their fans are already frustrated with him, just wait until his scoring efficiency comes back down to Earth.

[3toheadmelo]

:lol:
meLo spamming rj slander to distract from Randle being Randle.

Not that im complaining. I love seeing other fan bases miserable.

You know what fan base isn't miserable though - team fourni3r stays winning

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Raps board wants him benched now!

RJ is perfect as a sixth man and I suspect that was always the plan when we acquired him and Quickley. I like RJ but Gradey's midrange, shooting, finishing and cutting are just too good. He's on a different level than RJ.

Dick is going to be better than RJ by next season, if he isn't already. I'd say keep both in the SL, but defence might be atrocious. In which case, RJ is the one you move to the bench.

Was hoping a little time and some other playmakers would be helpful for RJ in replicating some of last year, but each new game seems to put that further from reach. I don't love his decision-making. I was skeptical of him when we first got him, then hopeful, now back to skeptical.

they saying derozan gonnna be their piece to get a kawhi. oh man.

RJ is our DD, in the sense that we will package him in a trade to get a very good player.

RJ is becoming harder and harder to watch as season goes along.

To me, Dick's a keeper and so is Barnes. Everyone else can go if need be. Especially RJ.

Barrett -23. The other 4 starters were even, plus one, minus 1, minus 2.

RJ was an embarrassment.

always love seeing other fan bases miserable!

[sol537]

I think trading KAT for Randle was a mistake by the Wolves, and one that might have closed their championship window.

I understand that they were facing financial constraints, and they did have an embarrassment of riches in the frontcourt between Gobert, Naz, McDaniels and KAT. But like me going through the menu at a restaurant, it appears that they completely overthought it, and kind of lost the plot by letting go of the most talented player of that group.

Not to mention KAT's skill set enhanced Edwards's game, they had a good relationship off the court, and their timelines largely matched.

Randle's still a net positive overall despite his subpar defense, but he's an awful fit on Minnesota with Edwards and Gobert, and if their fans are already frustrated with him, just wait until his scoring efficiency comes back down to Earth.

Agreed. They should have kept it together for 1 more season, at least, and then traded him this upcoming off-season if the 2nd apron become too much for their owners. Randle ain't it. Thankfully, he's not our problem any longer. Feels good to be able to say that.

[MrDollarBills]

You should be. He's been horrible and many are holding you responsible.

They should. I used my willpower to bring both he and KAT over here with me. If they fail, I fail.

This is Team Captain material

Accountability. I'm a big believer in it. Even if it rips my face off

[3toheadmelo]

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we finally look like a modern team without him. just amazing to swap out an a toxic blackhole who was extremely selfish for arguably the best impact 2 way wing in the whole league. i dont even know how we still pulled that off tbh. thank you leon!

[Guano]

:lol:
meLo spamming rj slander to distract from Randle being Randle.

Not that im complaining. I love seeing other fan bases miserable.

You know what fan base isn't miserable though - team fourni3r stays winning

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Raps board wants him benched now!

RJ is perfect as a sixth man and I suspect that was always the plan when we acquired him and Quickley. I like RJ but Gradey's midrange, shooting, finishing and cutting are just too good. He's on a different level than RJ.

Dick is going to be better than RJ by next season, if he isn't already. I'd say keep both in the SL, but defence might be atrocious. In which case, RJ is the one you move to the bench.

Was hoping a little time and some other playmakers would be helpful for RJ in replicating some of last year, but each new game seems to put that further from reach. I don't love his decision-making. I was skeptical of him when we first got him, then hopeful, now back to skeptical.

they saying derozan gonnna be their piece to get a kawhi. oh man.

RJ is our DD, in the sense that we will package him in a trade to get a very good player.

RJ is becoming harder and harder to watch as season goes along.

To me, Dick's a keeper and so is Barnes. Everyone else can go if need be. Especially RJ.

Barrett -23. The other 4 starters were even, plus one, minus 1, minus 2.

RJ was an embarrassment.

always love seeing other fan bases miserable!

Imma let you cook. But not until you address the issue of your boy 0sman getting cooked by my man f0uri3r!

[Guano]

I think trading KAT for Randle was a mistake by the Wolves, and one that might have closed their championship window.

I understand that they were facing financial constraints, and they did have an embarrassment of riches in the frontcourt between Gobert, Naz, McDaniels and KAT. But like me going through the menu at a restaurant, it appears that they completely overthought it, and kind of lost the plot by letting go of the most talented player of that group.

Not to mention KAT's skill set enhanced Edwards's game, they had a good relationship off the court, and their timelines largely matched.

Randle's still a net positive overall despite his subpar defense, but he's an awful fit on Minnesota with Edwards and Gobert, and if their fans are already frustrated with him, just wait until his scoring efficiency comes back down to Earth.

The more I live the more I realize I have no unique experiences. Sorry to see you struggle witht this, too. It's truly terrible.

[3toheadmelo]

I think trading KAT for Randle was a mistake by the Wolves, and one that might have closed their championship window.

I understand that they were facing financial constraints, and they did have an embarrassment of riches in the frontcourt between Gobert, Naz, McDaniels and KAT. But like me going through the menu at a restaurant, it appears that they completely overthought it, and kind of lost the plot by letting go of the most talented player of that group.

Not to mention KAT's skill set enhanced Edwards's game, they had a good relationship off the court, and their timelines largely matched.

Randle's still a net positive overall despite his subpar defense, but he's an awful fit on Minnesota with Edwards and Gobert, and if their fans are already frustrated with him, just wait until his scoring efficiency comes back down to Earth.

i think it's still too early (like how it is with kat) to really know how it will play out. ant and randle have the most 20 pts+ for any duo in the league. ant was saying he loves playing off him. i haven't seen much timberwolves games but one of them i saw was against denver and they had a stretch where they were absolutely dominant. i think that's a promising sign for them. gobert and randle does feel weird though. he's not our problem anymore at least, so i wont have to defend him after those terrible wandle games he does sometimes still rooting for his success though.

[3toheadmelo]

:lol:
meLo spamming rj slander to distract from Randle being Randle.

Not that im complaining. I love seeing other fan bases miserable.

You know what fan base isn't miserable though - team fourni3r stays winning

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Raps board wants him benched now!

RJ is perfect as a sixth man and I suspect that was always the plan when we acquired him and Quickley. I like RJ but Gradey's midrange, shooting, finishing and cutting are just too good. He's on a different level than RJ.

Dick is going to be better than RJ by next season, if he isn't already. I'd say keep both in the SL, but defence might be atrocious. In which case, RJ is the one you move to the bench.

Was hoping a little time and some other playmakers would be helpful for RJ in replicating some of last year, but each new game seems to put that further from reach. I don't love his decision-making. I was skeptical of him when we first got him, then hopeful, now back to skeptical.

they saying derozan gonnna be their piece to get a kawhi. oh man.

RJ is our DD, in the sense that we will package him in a trade to get a very good player.

RJ is becoming harder and harder to watch as season goes along.

To me, Dick's a keeper and so is Barnes. Everyone else can go if need be. Especially RJ.

Barrett -23. The other 4 starters were even, plus one, minus 1, minus 2.

RJ was an embarrassment.

always love seeing other fan bases miserable!

Imma let you cook. But not until you address the issue of your boy 0sman getting cooked by my man f0uri3r!

i knew i was making a mistake telling you about a minor transaction i made in baf

[NoDopeOnSundays]

The Wolves should realistically start Naz and Donte, I don't know how much longer they can pretend that Reid on his own isn't a better player than Randle. All these threes Ant is taking is a biproduct of floor balance changing, he's not attacking the basket nearly as much as he did last year, and a large part of that is because Randle isn't the shooter that KAT is.

If I were them, I'd start Donte and split secondary creation between him and Reid. They both space the floor better than Randle and the ball moves freely, the fact there's such a large gap between Reid / Randle's net rating says a lot.

I dont understand why they didn't just move Randle for picks and roll with Naz. Just seems like they could have recouped some inexpensive assets while letting Naz flourish.

I guess they can take that risk since they have a high level starting PF on the cheap, if worse comes to worse they can just move Randle if need be. Most of their numbers are better with Reid, so only so long they can keep this up, the second Randle stops shooting 40% from three he becomes a liability on the floor and they have someone to replace him.

[Guano]

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Raps board wants him benched now!



they saying derozan gonnna be their piece to get a kawhi. oh man.





always love seeing other fan bases miserable!

Imma let you cook. But not until you address the issue of your boy 0sman getting cooked by my man f0uri3r!

i knew i was making a mistake telling you about a minor transaction i made in baf