Sixers V Cavs 11/13/24 - Lol

[HotelVitale]

Never has an organization deserved a start to the season more for simply not caring about the regular season whatsoever. Just hope Morey doesn’t trade McCain in a deal for DFS at the trade deadline.

Not sure if you missed the game, but McCain was great, Yabu showed tons of heart, C Martin looked like a top-notch role player, and even Reggie Jackson came in and carried things for a while. Not the game to be blasting Morey for, his offseason finishing touches just put on a helluva show with all of the big 3 out.

How did you read that post and interpret it as me blasting Morey?

Well you started by blasting 'the organization' and its planning right after a really fun game for us, and your only other sentence was a jab at Morey that seemed forced and, all due respect, not funny or relevant or anything that would make it seem like it was doing anything besides venting anger/frustration. If you meant to express something other than frustration at how the team was set up this season, it didn't come through.

Also there's your name.

[M2J]

If Jared McCain is this good at age 20 just 10 games into his rookie year, imagine how good he'll be by 23 or 24? He's exploding out of the gate quicker than even Maxey did.

Absolutely untouchable. Jalen Brunson (or better) upside.

This is where I wanted to go. He's such an interesting prospect. He's not Curry (that's Maxey), but McCain truly reminds me of a undersized Klay. Great form, and mechanical approach to his shot and getting balance for his pull-up and finishing around the rim. Except he's clearly improved his handle and passing to the point that he reminds me a hell of a lot of a healthy Jamal Murray.

Morey nailed this pick and I never wish injury on my guy Maxey, but his couldn't have come at a better time as now we all just know that Jared is indeed 100% UNTOUCHABLE! Not this season at least.

[FireMorey]

Not sure if you missed the game, but McCain was great, Yabu showed tons of heart, C Martin looked like a top-notch role player, and even Reggie Jackson came in and carried things for a while. Not the game to be blasting Morey for, his offseason finishing touches just put on a helluva show with all of the big 3 out.

How did you read that post and interpret it as me blasting Morey?

Well you started by blasting 'the organization' and its planning right after a really fun game for us, and your only other sentence was a jab at Morey that seemed forced and, all due respect, not funny or relevant or anything that would make it seem like it was doing anything besides venting anger/frustration. If you meant to express something other than frustration at how the team was set up this season, it didn't come through.

Also there's your name.

I have never been shy about bashing Morey. If I think he's done something that sucks or is at fault, I will call him out by name. The organization is just that, the organization. I don't think there is any one person responsible, but their handling of everything this entire year has been absolutely atrocious. And their messaging on top of it. They seem perfectly content to fall however many games under .500 to handle their players with kid gloves. Their messaging is "Regular season doesn't matter, it's all about keeping guys healthy and the playoffs." Given that, 2-9 seems apropos. Treat the regular season like it doesn't matter, the product will reflect that.

And the other point was not a jab at Morey. It was a legitimate hope that they don't trade him at the deadline for DFS. Him being included in a package for DFS has been a subject of conversation and speculation all the way back to the summer. And an organization under a ticking clock with aging star players may view that as a win now move worth sacrificing the future for. I don't know if he will or won't trade McCain in a deal like that, but I hope he doesn't.

[76ciology]

Big difference:
- Almost 40pts from Caleb and Oubre, combined 16/27 from the field
- 34pts 10 assists from McCain
- Drummond not playing, Yabu and Bona grabbing almost 10 rebs each

[zaz102]

How did you read that post and interpret it as me blasting Morey?

Well you started by blasting 'the organization' and its planning right after a really fun game for us, and your only other sentence was a jab at Morey that seemed forced and, all due respect, not funny or relevant or anything that would make it seem like it was doing anything besides venting anger/frustration. If you meant to express something other than frustration at how the team was set up this season, it didn't come through.

Also there's your name.

I have never been shy about bashing Morey. If I think he's done something that sucks or is at fault, I will call him out by name. The organization is just that, the organization. I don't think there is any one person responsible, but their handling of everything this entire year has been absolutely atrocious. And their messaging on top of it. They seem perfectly content to fall however many games under .500 to handle their players with kid gloves. Their messaging is "Regular season doesn't matter, it's all about keeping guys healthy and the playoffs." Given that, 2-9 seems apropos. Treat the regular season like it doesn't matter, the product will reflect that.

And the other point was not a jab at Morey. It was a legitimate hope that they don't trade him at the deadline for DFS. Him being included in a package for DFS has been a subject of conversation and speculation all the way back to the summer. And an organization under a ticking clock with aging star players may view that as a win now move worth sacrificing the future for. I don't know if he will or won't trade McCain in a deal like that, but I hope he doesn't.

That's ludacris. Morey didn't trade Maxey for Lowry when he was good. Also, Morey never pays much for those role player vets. There's no way they're considering McCain for DFS.

[sodmoraes]

Mccain is legit, and he had some nice passes. Way better passer than Maxey. And his middie is legit, looks like TJ Mcconnel's jumper. Looks like he will be a better shooter than Maxey too. Maxey has more tools, but i can see Mccain as pg, and Maxey as a sg. Tyrese is better as an off ball shooter anyways, as his pullup 3 is very meh( % speaking). It would be a very potent backcourt offensively, but very bad playing defense.

With the way Yabu is getting better, and shooting well from 3, i think our best lineup, by the end of the year would be: McCain, Maxey, PG,Yabu, Embiid.
But i dont think it will happen since i dont think Oubre and Caleb would accept going to the bench.

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[WentzerWuver]

Well you started by blasting 'the organization' and its planning right after a really fun game for us, and your only other sentence was a jab at Morey that seemed forced and, all due respect, not funny or relevant or anything that would make it seem like it was doing anything besides venting anger/frustration. If you meant to express something other than frustration at how the team was set up this season, it didn't come through.

Also there's your name.

I have never been shy about bashing Morey. If I think he's done something that sucks or is at fault, I will call him out by name. The organization is just that, the organization. I don't think there is any one person responsible, but their handling of everything this entire year has been absolutely atrocious. And their messaging on top of it. They seem perfectly content to fall however many games under .500 to handle their players with kid gloves. Their messaging is "Regular season doesn't matter, it's all about keeping guys healthy and the playoffs." Given that, 2-9 seems apropos. Treat the regular season like it doesn't matter, the product will reflect that.

And the other point was not a jab at Morey. It was a legitimate hope that they don't trade him at the deadline for DFS. Him being included in a package for DFS has been a subject of conversation and speculation all the way back to the summer. And an organization under a ticking clock with aging star players may view that as a win now move worth sacrificing the future for. I don't know if he will or won't trade McCain in a deal like that, but I hope he doesn't.

That's ludacris. Morey didn't trade Maxey for Lowry when he was good. Also, Morey never pays much for those role player vets. There's no way they're considering McCain for DFS.

Morey is not as stupid as some fans are trying to make him out to be. Besides, DFS is overrated otherwise the Mavs would never had included him in the trade.

Good production for McCain in his first start but Da Spida was unstoppable during clutch to seal the game which is why they are undefeated and most likely team to defeat the defending champions in the playoffs.

[Iverson Armband]

Mccain is legit, and he had some nice passes. Way better passer than Maxey. And his middie is legit, looks like TJ Mcconnel's jumper. Looks like he will be a better shooter than Maxey too. Maxey has more tools, but i can see Mccain as pg, and Maxey as a sg. Tyrese is better as an off ball shooter anyways, as his pullup 3 is very meh( % speaking). It would be a very potent backcourt offensively, but very bad playing defense.

With the way Yabu is getting better, and shooting well from 3, i think our best lineup, by the end of the year would be: McCain, Maxey, PG,Yabu, Embiid.
But i dont think it will happen since i dont think Oubre and Caleb would accept going to the bench.

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Martin and Oubre (especially) have done nothing in this league worthy of dictating whether they come off the bench or not.

[Sixerscan]

McCain isn't getting traded for DFS. If Trey Murphy hadn't gotten extended that might have been a fun debate.

[mjkvol]

Just checked out the game, and I'm happy to admit I was wrong on McCain. The kid's clearly a player, and the moment certainly isn't too big for him. He wants the ball in big spots, has a silky smooth stroke, and already a better mid range game than Maxey.
I really hope that Nurse doesn't let his loyalty to the vets get in the way of letting the Maxey-McCain backcourt develop as the season goes on.

My fear about this team is the health and effectiveness of both Embiid and George. Morey has put together a fine complimentary group, but that's what they're supposed to be, a complimentary group. If our superstars don't (or can't) play like superstars, this is going to be a play-in team at best.

[SixthStreet]

We really need to sell Embiid on reducing his usage, drastically. The pieces are there around him for him to play a lesser scoring role, especially in the playoffs when Maxey, George, and McCain should be bearing the brunt of shot creation with an assist from Embiid's gravity.

I have never been higher on an Embiid era's roster with the emergence of McCain. Nothing he has done in these 11 games is unsustainable especially when he can do that as the 4th cog in the offense.

[Kolkmania]

If Jared McCain is this good at age 20 just 10 games into his rookie year, imagine how good he'll be by 23 or 24? He's exploding out of the gate quicker than even Maxey did.

Absolutely untouchable. Jalen Brunson (or better) upside.

This is where I wanted to go. He's such an interesting prospect. He's not Curry (that's Maxey), but McCain truly reminds me of a undersized Klay. Great form, and mechanical approach to his shot and getting balance for his pull-up and finishing around the rim. Except he's clearly improved his handle and passing to the point that he reminds me a hell of a lot of a healthy Jamal Murray.

Morey nailed this pick and I never wish injury on my guy Maxey, but his couldn't have come at a better time as now we all just know that Jared is indeed 100% UNTOUCHABLE! Not this season at least.

I get the point from a stylistic point of view, but just to put this performance in perspective (based on quick bbref scan), Klay never reached 10 AST in a single game.

Obviously this is not the standard for McCain, but these 10 assists were no fluke either. Driving into the paint for smart and difficult kick-outs is certainly not a typical thing for a true shooting guard, certainly not a rookie.
If he can be a reliable playmaker aside from the floor spacing and decent point of attack defense, we've hit the jackpot.

[DCasey91]

That pass to Oubre alone shows glimpses of a playmaker.

In the offseason both him and Maxey should be required to watch at least a couple hours of Parker's work inside a day until it they add something to their bow.

I can dream for Flagg and if McCain gets to neutral on D (don't see a reason not to) then that's a special combination

[Stanford]

Worst part about Morey being a low-key good drafter is that we're giving the 12th pick in the upcoming draft to OKC.

[M2J]

If Jared McCain is this good at age 20 just 10 games into his rookie year, imagine how good he'll be by 23 or 24? He's exploding out of the gate quicker than even Maxey did.

Absolutely untouchable. Jalen Brunson (or better) upside.

This is where I wanted to go. He's such an interesting prospect. He's not Curry (that's Maxey), but McCain truly reminds me of a undersized Klay. Great form, and mechanical approach to his shot and getting balance for his pull-up and finishing around the rim. Except he's clearly improved his handle and passing to the point that he reminds me a hell of a lot of a healthy Jamal Murray.

Morey nailed this pick and I never wish injury on my guy Maxey, but his couldn't have come at a better time as now we all just know that Jared is indeed 100% UNTOUCHABLE! Not this season at least.

I get the point from a stylistic point of view, but just to put this performance in perspective (based on quick bbref scan), Klay never reached 10 AST in a single game.

Obviously this is not the standard for McCain, but these 10 assists were no fluke either. Driving into the paint for smart and difficult kick-outs is certainly not a typical thing for a true shooting guard, certainly not a rookie.
If he can be a reliable playmaker aside from the floor spacing and decent point of attack defense, we've hit the jackpot.

Right, as I said his improvements in ball handling and passing make him a bit more like Murray to me. His improvement really sticks out as I watch a few of his big games at Duke (his season high was 5 assists).

[mjkvol]

If Jared McCain is this good at age 20 just 10 games into his rookie year, imagine how good he'll be by 23 or 24? He's exploding out of the gate quicker than even Maxey did.

Absolutely untouchable. Jalen Brunson (or better) upside.

This is where I wanted to go. He's such an interesting prospect. He's not Curry (that's Maxey), but McCain truly reminds me of a undersized Klay. Great form, and mechanical approach to his shot and getting balance for his pull-up and finishing around the rim. Except he's clearly improved his handle and passing to the point that he reminds me a hell of a lot of a healthy Jamal Murray.

Morey nailed this pick and I never wish injury on my guy Maxey, but his couldn't have come at a better time as now we all just know that Jared is indeed 100% UNTOUCHABLE! Not this season at least.

I get the point from a stylistic point of view, but just to put this performance in perspective (based on quick bbref scan), Klay never reached 10 AST in a single game.

Obviously this is not the standard for McCain, but these 10 assists were no fluke either. Driving into the paint for smart and difficult kick-outs is certainly not a typical thing for a true shooting guard, certainly not a rookie.
If he can be a reliable playmaker aside from the floor spacing and decent point of attack defense, we've hit the jackpot.

I don't like the Klay comp either. As you said, McCain already looks like he'll be a superior playmaker, but he'll also never be the defensive stopper that was one of prime Klay's hallmarks. If McCain can even be net neutral on the defensive end, and he has the bulk to be able to hold up on that end, it will be enough with his offensive upside.

[mjkvol]

Worst part about Morey being a low-key good drafter is that we're giving the 12th pick in the upcoming draft to OKC.

He really needs to get that pick back, or something that will get us into the top half of the draft.

[mjkvol]

We really need to sell Embiid on reducing his usage, drastically. The pieces are there around him for him to play a lesser scoring role, especially in the playoffs when Maxey, George, and McCain should be bearing the brunt of shot creation with an assist from Embiid's gravity.

I have never been higher on an Embiid era's roster with the emergence of McCain. Nothing he has done in these 11 games is unsustainable especially when he can do that as the 4th cog in the offense.

Agree, but I really don't believe that Embiid is capable of playing as a '3rd option'. His presence always mucks up the flow and pace of the game, as it turns into a group standing around watching him pound the ball. I always hoped that instead of working on more offensive moves, that he would instead focus on his conditioning, defense, and becoming a better distributor, but that is pretty much moot at this point.

[HotelVitale]

This is where I wanted to go. He's such an interesting prospect. He's not Curry (that's Maxey), but McCain truly reminds me of a undersized Klay. Great form, and mechanical approach to his shot and getting balance for his pull-up and finishing around the rim. Except he's clearly improved his handle and passing to the point that he reminds me a hell of a lot of a healthy Jamal Murray.

Morey nailed this pick and I never wish injury on my guy Maxey, but his couldn't have come at a better time as now we all just know that Jared is indeed 100% UNTOUCHABLE! Not this season at least.

I get the point from a stylistic point of view, but just to put this performance in perspective (based on quick bbref scan), Klay never reached 10 AST in a single game.

Obviously this is not the standard for McCain, but these 10 assists were no fluke either. Driving into the paint for smart and difficult kick-outs is certainly not a typical thing for a true shooting guard, certainly not a rookie.
If he can be a reliable playmaker aside from the floor spacing and decent point of attack defense, we've hit the jackpot.

I don't like the Klay comp either. As you said, McCain already looks like he'll be a superior playmaker, but he'll also never be the defensive stopper that was one of prime Klay's hallmarks. If McCain can even be net neutral on the defensive end, and he has the bulk to be able to hold up on that end, it will be enough with his offensive upside.

McCain also isn’t close to Klay as an off ball shooter, at least not now. He has a pretty low release point and doesn’t really take movement shots of any kind (let alone the wild fadeaway spins off picks), can’t get off shots like Klay could for all of his prime. Remember prime Klay could score 50 sometimes just from catch and shoot.

McCain also figures to shoot quite a for more 3s off the bounce than prime Klay did. He’s much more of a creator than just an off ball sniper.

[Stanford]

Worst part about Morey being a low-key good drafter is that we're giving the 12th pick in the upcoming draft to OKC.

He really needs to get that pick back, or something that will get us into the top half of the draft.

I think that's pure fantasy. We have no leverage to make a good trade involving that pick. Presti would have Morey for lunch.