PG: The hair foul game

[F N 11]

I hate to pile on brunson and thibs but this is on both of them.

First why is Brunson in for a last second defensive stop. You have McBride available or put Sims in to hound the inbounds pass.

Brunson is legit sitting there doing nothing. He's not helping off the inbounds player (giddey) who isn't a threat to shoot on a pass back...and he isn't up in the giddeys face forcing him to make a difficult inbounds.

Its legit like we are playing 4 on 5 in that situation.

I first blame thibs because that is coaching...but either put someone in his face to make the inbounds difficult or have brunson or whoever with the back to the inbounds and help whoever is coming to get the inbounds pass.

If Brunson is more aware Hart doesn't have to scramble to recover with being screened and Brunson can help pick him up.

Then with only a few seconds Giddey would have to force a bad pass to someone and then potentially get the pass back for a prayer 3 and he isn't someone that can shoot.

Bad coaching...and lazy defense from Brunson.

Not to mention OG on Patrick Williams like he’s a top scorer.

[stuporman]

I hate to pile on brunson and thibs but this is on both of them.

First why is Brunson in for a last second defensive stop. You have McBride available or put Sims in to hound the inbounds pass.

Brunson is legit sitting there doing nothing. He's not helping off the inbounds player (giddey) who isn't a threat to shoot on a pass back...and he isn't up in the giddeys face forcing him to make a difficult inbounds.

Its legit like we are playing 4 on 5 in that situation.

I first blame thibs because that is coaching...but either put someone in his face to make the inbounds difficult or have brunson or whoever with the back to the inbounds and help whoever is coming to get the inbounds pass.

If Brunson is more aware Hart doesn't have to scramble to recover with being screened and Brunson can help pick him up.

Then with only a few seconds Giddey would have to force a bad pass to someone and then potentially get the pass back for a prayer 3 and he isn't someone that can shoot.

Bad coaching...and lazy defense from Brunson.

Zero pressure on the inbounder with a suitable defender and zero awareness of pass denial or passing lane pressure. Why even have Brunson out there? Use a better player for that. There's 4 seconds left and the Knicks have a lead with a timeout in their pocket. Thibs blew this on multiple aspects.

[mpharris36]

I hate to pile on brunson and thibs but this is on both of them.

First why is Brunson in for a last second defensive stop. You have McBride available or put Sims in to hound the inbounds pass.

Brunson is legit sitting there doing nothing. He's not helping off the inbounds player (giddey) who isn't a threat to shoot on a pass back...and he isn't up in the giddeys face forcing him to make a difficult inbounds.

Its legit like we are playing 4 on 5 in that situation.

I first blame thibs because that is coaching...but either put someone in his face to make the inbounds difficult or have brunson or whoever with the back to the inbounds and help whoever is coming to get the inbounds pass.

If Brunson is more aware Hart doesn't have to scramble to recover with being screened and Brunson can help pick him up.

Then with only a few seconds Giddey would have to force a bad pass to someone and then potentially get the pass back for a prayer 3 and he isn't someone that can shoot.

Bad coaching...and lazy defense from Brunson.

Not to mention OG on Patrick Williams like he’s a top scorer.

they probably didn't want brunson on a guy where they could just throw it in the post...but thats my point why is brunson even out there...do you think he is going to get the rebound and get fouled and you want him in for FT's? You have a timeout if you get the rebound with 1 second left if you are that worried just call a timeout after the stop.

You should either put size on the inbound pass to make it difficult or have someone like mcbride that has back to giddey just picking up anyone that comes free...

just have brunson chilling does what exactly...giddey had no pressure or resistance to make a difficult pass and then Hart has to scramble over screen instead of having the inbounds guy picking him up.

[spree8]

There were two pivotal plays in the fourth quarter. First at the 6:53 mark left in the 4th, then at the 5:03 mark left in the 4th. Both lavine jump shots as he goes one on one against Mikal. Dood just gets wrecked everytime. He provides no resistance and no tough defense. What was the point of bringing Mikal in? Play tougher D, make the offense work for it. He’s been absolutely trash on defense and it’s maddening to watch him get abused when his calling card IS DEFENSE. I wish we didn’t trade for that guy. We could have instead use the picks on giannis.
A line up of Brunson deuce hart giannis and KAT would have been incredible. You’re a bum Mikal

Even with the picks what contracts could we have used for Giannis?

It would have to start with OG's contract and if Bogdonovic was still here there's the math.

OG plus Hart or Mitchell Robinson could also get you there.

Only thing I could get to work contract wise on Fanspo is OG, Precious, Deuce, Ryan for Giannis… and that’s not until after Feb 3rd… Trade Deadline is Feb 6th.

I highly doubt we’re in the running for Giannis tho. He’d have to have a very short list with us on it, and even then, I doubt we can beat most team’s offers.

Jalen | Payne | Kolek
Mikal | Shamet
Hart | Dadiet
Giannis | Warren? Toppin?
Towns | Mitch | Sims | Huk

Would be a title tho

[mpharris36]

I hate to pile on brunson and thibs but this is on both of them.

First why is Brunson in for a last second defensive stop. You have McBride available or put Sims in to hound the inbounds pass.

Brunson is legit sitting there doing nothing. He's not helping off the inbounds player (giddey) who isn't a threat to shoot on a pass back...and he isn't up in the giddeys face forcing him to make a difficult inbounds.

Its legit like we are playing 4 on 5 in that situation.

I first blame thibs because that is coaching...but either put someone in his face to make the inbounds difficult or have brunson or whoever with the back to the inbounds and help whoever is coming to get the inbounds pass.

If Brunson is more aware Hart doesn't have to scramble to recover with being screened and Brunson can help pick him up.

Then with only a few seconds Giddey would have to force a bad pass to someone and then potentially get the pass back for a prayer 3 and he isn't someone that can shoot.

Bad coaching...and lazy defense from Brunson.

Zero pressure on the inbounder with a suitable defender and zero awareness of pass denial or passing lane pressure. Why even have Brunson out there? Use a better player for that. There's 4 seconds left and the Knicks have a lead with a timeout in their pocket. Thibs blew this on multiple aspects.

100% facts...for such a X's and O's guy this is a catastrophic failure form a coach.

Up 2...less that 5 seconds left...we have a timeout if you need it if we get a quick rebound.

Brunson isn't helping you defend or rebound so why is he in?

[RHODEY]

There were two pivotal plays in the fourth quarter. First at the 6:53 mark left in the 4th, then at the 5:03 mark left in the 4th. Both lavine jump shots as he goes one on one against Mikal. Dood just gets wrecked everytime. He provides no resistance and no tough defense. What was the point of bringing Mikal in? Play tougher D, make the offense work for it. He’s been absolutely trash on defense and it’s maddening to watch him get abused when his calling card IS DEFENSE. I wish we didn’t trade for that guy. We could have instead use the picks on giannis.
A line up of Brunson deuce hart giannis and KAT would have been incredible. You’re a bum Mikal

Even with the picks what contracts could we have used for Giannis?

It would have to start with OG's contract and if Bogdonovic was still here there's the math.

OG plus Hart or Mitchell Robinson could also get you there.

Other teams are beating that offer.

[stuporman]

I hate to pile on brunson and thibs but this is on both of them.

First why is Brunson in for a last second defensive stop. You have McBride available or put Sims in to hound the inbounds pass.

Brunson is legit sitting there doing nothing. He's not helping off the inbounds player (giddey) who isn't a threat to shoot on a pass back...and he isn't up in the giddeys face forcing him to make a difficult inbounds.

Its legit like we are playing 4 on 5 in that situation.

I first blame thibs because that is coaching...but either put someone in his face to make the inbounds difficult or have brunson or whoever with the back to the inbounds and help whoever is coming to get the inbounds pass.

If Brunson is more aware Hart doesn't have to scramble to recover with being screened and Brunson can help pick him up.

Then with only a few seconds Giddey would have to force a bad pass to someone and then potentially get the pass back for a prayer 3 and he isn't someone that can shoot.

Bad coaching...and lazy defense from Brunson.

Zero pressure on the inbounder with a suitable defender and zero awareness of pass denial or passing lane pressure. Why even have Brunson out there? Use a better player for that. There's 4 seconds left and the Knicks have a lead with a timeout in their pocket. Thibs blew this on multiple aspects.

100% facts...for such a X's and O's guy this is a catastrophic failure form a coach.

Up 2...less that 5 seconds left...we have a timeout if you need it if we get a quick rebound.

Brunson isn't helping you defend or rebound so why is he in?

I don't agree with all the hate he gets but Thibs blew that situation so badly, wow.

[DOT]

Giddey missed a wide open oop to LaVine on the OOB play too. Just poor execution.

[spree8]

Has any post game reporter asked Thibs about the insane minutes yet?

[whocares1]

I hate to pile on brunson and thibs but this is on both of them.

First why is Brunson in for a last second defensive stop. You have McBride available or put Sims in to hound the inbounds pass.

Brunson is legit sitting there doing nothing. He's not helping off the inbounds player (giddey) who isn't a threat to shoot on a pass back...and he isn't up in the giddeys face forcing him to make a difficult inbounds.

Its legit like we are playing 4 on 5 in that situation.

I first blame thibs because that is coaching...but either put someone in his face to make the inbounds difficult or have brunson or whoever with the back to the inbounds and help whoever is coming to get the inbounds pass.

If Brunson is more aware Hart doesn't have to scramble to recover with being screened and Brunson can help pick him up.

Then with only a few seconds Giddey would have to force a bad pass to someone and then potentially get the pass back for a prayer 3 and he isn't someone that can shoot.

Bad coaching...and lazy defense from Brunson.

Zero pressure on the inbounder with a suitable defender and zero awareness of pass denial or passing lane pressure. Why even have Brunson out there? Use a better player for that. There's 4 seconds left and the Knicks have a lead with a timeout in their pocket. Thibs blew this on multiple aspects.

100% facts...for such a X's and O's guy this is a catastrophic failure form a coach.

Up 2...less that 5 seconds left...we have a timeout if you need it if we get a quick rebound.

Brunson isn't helping you defend or rebound so why is he in?

Knicks should’ve been playing no threes defense. The fact that Coby had a completely clean look right at the 3 point line is unacceptable.

[KnixinSix]

I hate to pile on brunson and thibs but this is on both of them.

First why is Brunson in for a last second defensive stop. You have McBride available or put Sims in to hound the inbounds pass.

Brunson is legit sitting there doing nothing. He's not helping off the inbounds player (giddey) who isn't a threat to shoot on a pass back...and he isn't up in the giddeys face forcing him to make a difficult inbounds.

Its legit like we are playing 4 on 5 in that situation.

I first blame thibs because that is coaching...but either put someone in his face to make the inbounds difficult or have brunson or whoever with the back to the inbounds and help whoever is coming to get the inbounds pass.

If Brunson is more aware Hart doesn't have to scramble to recover with being screened and Brunson can help pick him up.

Then with only a few seconds Giddey would have to force a bad pass to someone and then potentially get the pass back for a prayer 3 and he isn't someone that can shoot.

Bad coaching...and lazy defense from Brunson.

Zero pressure on the inbounder with a suitable defender and zero awareness of pass denial or passing lane pressure. Why even have Brunson out there? Use a better player for that. There's 4 seconds left and the Knicks have a lead with a timeout in their pocket. Thibs blew this on multiple aspects.

100% facts...for such a X's and O's guy this is a catastrophic failure form a coach.

Up 2...less that 5 seconds left...we have a timeout if you need it if we get a quick rebound.

Brunson isn't helping you defend or rebound so why is he in?

Very, very frustrating. Stupid mistakes by Thibs.

[j4remi]

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[NoDopeOnSundays]

We're 22nd in threes attempted per game, we're 12th in makes. Hey genius, tell your team to take more threes.

[mpharris36]

We're 22nd in threes attempted per game, we're 12th in makes. Hey genius, tell your team to take more threes.

Brunson finally started taking more this past game. Its on him a lot to do the distributing

because guys like Mikal and OG aren't going to create a of those 3's off the dribble. Similar to McBride these are C&S guys.

Even KAT for as dynamic as he is is pretty reliant on someone else passing it to him to make 3's.

So Thibs needs to scheme it better and Brunson needs to distribute it better.

Maybe using KAT in post more where he can force doubles and passing to open shooters is another element we can use.

[K_ick_God]

Thibs doesn’t coach Brunson.

[thebuzzardman]

You know this team isn't good when fans are eagerly awaiting the return of Precious and Mitch to make the team better.

Mitch and Precious. Really?

[Reign23]

just came home after a hard day at the office and watched this. lord have mercy.

[R-DAWG]

We're 22nd in threes attempted per game, we're 12th in makes. Hey genius, tell your team to take more threes.

Brunson finally started taking more this past game. Its on him a lot to do the distributing

because guys like Mikal and OG aren't going to create a of those 3's off the dribble. Similar to McBride these are C&S guys.

Even KAT for as dynamic as he is is pretty reliant on someone else passing it to him to make 3's.

So Thibs needs to scheme it better and Brunson needs to distribute it better.

Maybe using KAT in post more where he can force doubles and passing to open shooters is another element we can use.

We need more playmaking. Too bad we couldn't have traded for Colby White instead of Bridges. Would have a added a different dynamic to the offense, cost a lot less in terms of picks, and opened up $10MM to work with under the 2nd apron.

[mpharris36]

We're 22nd in threes attempted per game, we're 12th in makes. Hey genius, tell your team to take more threes.

Brunson finally started taking more this past game. Its on him a lot to do the distributing

because guys like Mikal and OG aren't going to create a of those 3's off the dribble. Similar to McBride these are C&S guys.

Even KAT for as dynamic as he is is pretty reliant on someone else passing it to him to make 3's.

So Thibs needs to scheme it better and Brunson needs to distribute it better.

Maybe using KAT in post more where he can force doubles and passing to open shooters is another element we can use.

We need more playmaking. Too bad we couldn't have traded for Colby White instead of Bridges. Would have a added a different dynamic to the offense, cost a lot less in terms of picks, and opened up $10MM to work with under the 2nd apron.

maybe offensively defensively you can't play brunson and white together so it would have been a bad trade.

[Guano]

just came home after a hard day at the office and watched this. lord have mercy.

Knicks fandom is not a relaxing hobby