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[spree2kawhi]

Portland got 3 centers.. they can give us one.

TimeLord… for Mitch

A healthy Timelord would be the perfect 15-25 minute a night center for us.

Another candidate for trade I've kept my eye on is Norman Powell.. He's had a great start to the season. Decent defender. Could either come off the bench or start. Would jumpstart our offense a bit and provides some crazy shot making at times.

I’d be all over it, but Powell has a 19+ million contract. We only get there if we add Mitch, who is sorely missed. We’re never getting to 31 million for Zubac and Powell… and while Bamba is very interesting at 2.6 million, is he even a second stringer?

[Fat Kat]

They're playing down to their competition. And they're having a Divo issue as Randle works into game/all star shape.

As a NYK fan, I ain't thumbing my nose up on any team. We're playing absolutely trash team ball. I don't care how does individual numbers look.

But Randle does average more assists than Towns. I don’t understand why Minnesota isn’t better with this type of playmaking and soft-ass Towns finally no longer holding them back…

Yea I don't get it. Randle was supposed to add toughness which would ensure they don't play soft.....and his gravity is supposed to make them elite.

They're healthy, and have very good bench players. I don't understand why they're on a 3 game losing streak, playing soft and dropping games to depleted and tanking teams.

To be fair, Randle does average more scowls than Towns. His mean-mug is elite

[Knicksfan1992]

TimeLord… for Mitch

A healthy Timelord would be the perfect 15-25 minute a night center for us.

Another candidate for trade I've kept my eye on is Norman Powell.. He's had a great start to the season. Decent defender. Could either come off the bench or start. Would jumpstart our offense a bit and provides some crazy shot making at times.

I’d be all over it, but Powell has a 19+ million contract. We only get there if we add Mitch, who is sorely missed. We’re never getting to 31 million for Zubac and Powell… and while Bamba is very interesting at 2.6 million, is he even a second stringer?

I'd rather have Norm than Mitch. I'd honestly rather have a lot of other trade targets than Mitch with this roster.

I'm not too interested in a KAT/Mitch pairing tbh. Our team would just become super slow (and we're already a very slow team) and I don't foresee Mitch having any role offensively with KAT around because:

A) KAT should be the one setting screens so we lose Mitch's lob threat and Brunson's not a great lob thrower anyway

B) If you stick Mitch in the dunker's spot, then his hands are terrible and his finishing has diminshed as his lower leg injuries have piled up. He really can only dunk the ball uncontested. He's also a pretty useless passer. Also, obviously his FT shooting is woeful. When thinking of the Knicks offense and how potent it could be, it's an easy cop out for teams to just foul Mitch and live with the 1 point per possession he'll likely provide.

Mitch to me is useless on this roster unless you're using him for 10-20 minutes a night as a backup 5 but that's a rather large salary chunk to use on a backup IMO. I'd rather see Precious in that role.

If you don't view him as a bench piece, then whose place is he taking in the SL? It has to be Hart right? Is Mitch better at basketball than Hart? IMO no... Does he provide more additive bonuses to that lineup than Hart does? IMO no.... He might stabilize the regular season defense more but, in the playoffs against a team like Boston or Indiana we'll get run off the floor playing KAT and Mitch together for long stretches so it's pointless to me and the Knicks are already a decent to good rebounding team without him.

[Guano]

Randle is a good player with a unique skill set, but one who's hard to build with.

He's a terrible fit on Minnesota. It doesn't mean he's intrinsically a "bad" player.

Both Towns and Randle are good NBA players. Both have shortcomings. I think KAT is better, but I don't get this obsession with chitting on Randle after he helped put the Knicks franchise back on the right track.

please, you know why

This board really is full of bad people.

[Guano]

Hey. I’m new to this forum and I’m here to ask your advise. It’s my husband’s birthday around Thanksgiving and I want to gift him tickets for Knicks game, as he is a life long fan of Knicks. I know absolutely nothing about basketball teams and have no idea which games will be worth to see live. Could you please advise home games that will be worth seeing in MSG in the beginning of December? I see that there is a game with Pelicans, Magic, Hornets, Pistons and Raptors but have no idea who’s who lol.

The Raptors have 2 exKnicks on their team. Though they are bad team. Should be a fairly easy win.

The most competitive game will probably be the magic. Though they're best player might be out until Christmas.

Pistons are just a bad team.

Hornets have some fun players but are a bad team. And there best player is injury prone so he might not be available when they play. But they play a fun style to watch.

Pelicans are a boring team with a bad record. Best player is always injured.

1. Magic
2. Raps
3. Hornets

Cool birthday gift. Hope whatever team you decide you have an enjoyable time.

[3toheadmelo]

Hey. I’m new to this forum and I’m here to ask your advise. It’s my husband’s birthday around Thanksgiving and I want to gift him tickets for Knicks game, as he is a life long fan of Knicks. I know absolutely nothing about basketball teams and have no idea which games will be worth to see live. Could you please advise home games that will be worth seeing in MSG in the beginning of December? I see that there is a game with Pelicans, Magic, Hornets, Pistons and Raptors but have no idea who’s who lol.

The Raptors have 2 exKnicks on their team. Though they are bad team. Should be a fairly easy win.

The most competitive game will probably be the magic. Though they're best player might be out until Christmas.

Pistons are just a bad team.

Hornets have some fun players but are a bad team. And there best player is injury prone so he might not be available when they play. But they play a fun style to watch.

Pelicans are a boring team with a bad record. Best player is always injured.

1. Magic
2. Raps
3. Hornets

Cool birthday gift. Hope whatever team you decide you have an enjoyable time.

Advising someone to watch rj play basketball live in person is nasty work

[Fury]

Randle is a good player with a unique skill set, but one who's hard to build with.

He's a terrible fit on Minnesota. It doesn't mean he's intrinsically a "bad" player.

Both Towns and Randle are good NBA players. Both have shortcomings. I think KAT is better, but I don't get this obsession with chitting on Randle after he helped put the Knicks franchise back on the right track.

Part of it is his attitude and style of play. Sulking, doesn't get back on defense, gets angry at teammates. Takes awful shots.

Another part of it is that people just look for a scapegoat, just like we're doing with players now.

And the last part of it, it's a reaction to someone who acts like Randle is Jesus Christ himself and can do no wrong, so people counterbalance that **** cause it's annoying as hell.

[Guano]

Hey. I’m new to this forum and I’m here to ask your advise. It’s my husband’s birthday around Thanksgiving and I want to gift him tickets for Knicks game, as he is a life long fan of Knicks. I know absolutely nothing about basketball teams and have no idea which games will be worth to see live. Could you please advise home games that will be worth seeing in MSG in the beginning of December? I see that there is a game with Pelicans, Magic, Hornets, Pistons and Raptors but have no idea who’s who lol.

The Raptors have 2 exKnicks on their team. Though they are bad team. Should be a fairly easy win.

The most competitive game will probably be the magic. Though they're best player might be out until Christmas.

Pistons are just a bad team.

Hornets have some fun players but are a bad team. And there best player is injury prone so he might not be available when they play. But they play a fun style to watch.

Pelicans are a boring team with a bad record. Best player is always injured.

1. Magic
2. Raps
3. Hornets

Cool birthday gift. Hope whatever team you decide you have an enjoyable time.

Advising someone to watch rj play basketball live in person is nasty work

He might be team IQ. More importantly its always fun to beat the raps. F that team.

[Iron Mantis]

Are some people really perplexed as to why Randle was not a fan favorite and why people still go back and forth about him after he was traded? wow

I'm not sure what's funnier, the fact that some are acting perplexed, or the fact that it's the same people who are high fiving each other as they put out that exact same energy, but towards RJ. There's no difference. Same "chit", different player.

Either way, no one owes Randle or RJ anything anymore. Open season.

[3toheadmelo]

The Raptors have 2 exKnicks on their team. Though they are bad team. Should be a fairly easy win.

The most competitive game will probably be the magic. Though they're best player might be out until Christmas.

Pistons are just a bad team.

Hornets have some fun players but are a bad team. And there best player is injury prone so he might not be available when they play. But they play a fun style to watch.

Pelicans are a boring team with a bad record. Best player is always injured.

1. Magic
2. Raps
3. Hornets

Cool birthday gift. Hope whatever team you decide you have an enjoyable time.

Advising someone to watch rj play basketball live in person is nasty work

He might be team IQ. More importantly it’s always fun to beat the raps. F that team.

OG gonna have RJ shooting 5/30 that night

[Guano]

Advising someone to watch rj play basketball live in person is nasty work

He might be team IQ. More importantly it’s always fun to beat the raps. F that team.

OG gonna have RJ shooting 5/30 that night

You see the vision - that would be fun to watch live

[Chanel Bomber]

Randle is a good player with a unique skill set, but one who's hard to build with.

He's a terrible fit on Minnesota. It doesn't mean he's intrinsically a "bad" player.

Both Towns and Randle are good NBA players. Both have shortcomings. I think KAT is better, but I don't get this obsession with chitting on Randle after he helped put the Knicks franchise back on the right track.

Part of it is his attitude and style of play. Sulking, doesn't get back on defense, gets angry at teammates. Takes awful shots.

Another part of it is that people just look for a scapegoat, just like we're doing with players now.

And the last part of it, it's a reaction to someone who acts like Randle is Jesus Christ himself and can do no wrong, so people counterbalance that **** cause it's annoying as hell.

I don't think the actions of others let alone a poster on Realgm dot com who prays five times a day to the inventor of Oreos should dictate how we view or treat players who didn't ask for people to fight over them in the first place. I think that's a bit ridiculous tbh.

As for the rest, I've expressed my view numerous times, and the prospect of doing it again today bores me.

[spree2kawhi]

A healthy Timelord would be the perfect 15-25 minute a night center for us.

Another candidate for trade I've kept my eye on is Norman Powell.. He's had a great start to the season. Decent defender. Could either come off the bench or start. Would jumpstart our offense a bit and provides some crazy shot making at times.

I’d be all over it, but Powell has a 19+ million contract. We only get there if we add Mitch, who is sorely missed. We’re never getting to 31 million for Zubac and Powell… and while Bamba is very interesting at 2.6 million, is he even a second stringer?

I'd rather have Norm than Mitch. I'd honestly rather have a lot of other trade targets than Mitch with this roster.

I'm not too interested in a KAT/Mitch pairing tbh. Our team would just become super slow (and we're already a very slow team) and I don't foresee Mitch having any role offensively with KAT around because:

A) KAT should be the one setting screens so we lose Mitch's lob threat and Brunson's not a great lob thrower anyway

B) If you stick Mitch in the dunker's spot, then his hands are terrible and his finishing has diminshed as his lower leg injuries have piled up. He really can only dunk the ball uncontested. He's also a pretty useless passer. Also, obviously his FT shooting is woeful. When thinking of the Knicks offense and how potent it could be, it's an easy cop out for teams to just foul Mitch and live with the 1 point per possession he'll likely provide.

Mitch to me is useless on this roster unless you're using him for 10-20 minutes a night as a backup 5 but that's a rather large salary chunk to use on a backup IMO. I'd rather see Precious in that role.

If you don't view him as a bench piece, then whose place is he taking in the SL? It has to be Hart right? Is Mitch better at basketball than Hart? IMO no... Does he provide more additive bonuses to that lineup than Hart does? IMO no.... He might stabilize the regular season defense more but, in the playoffs against a team like Boston or Indiana we'll get run off the floor playing KAT and Mitch together for long stretches so it's pointless to me and the Knicks are already a decent to good rebounding team without him.

I’m with you, this is from another thread, hoping that Achiuwa can anchor the defense to a degree and have Robinson to get Towns some rest. I would trade Robinson without thinking twice, but with the apron and considering his favorable descending contract, I’m not sure that happens.

Towns / Robinson
Achiuwa/ Towns / OG
OG / Hart
Bridges / McBride / Hart
Brunson / Payne

Where’s the problem?

[Guano]

Randle is a good player with a unique skill set, but one who's hard to build with.

He's a terrible fit on Minnesota. It doesn't mean he's intrinsically a "bad" player.

Both Towns and Randle are good NBA players. Both have shortcomings. I think KAT is better, but I don't get this obsession with chitting on Randle after he helped put the Knicks franchise back on the right track.

Part of it is his attitude and style of play. Sulking, doesn't get back on defense, gets angry at teammates. Takes awful shots.

Another part of it is that people just look for a scapegoat, just like we're doing with players now.

And the last part of it, it's a reaction to someone who acts like Randle is Jesus Christ himself and can do no wrong, so people counterbalance that **** cause it's annoying as hell.

I don't think the actions of others let alone a poster on Realgm dot com who prays five times a day to the inventor of Oreos should dictate how we view or treat players who didn't ask for people to fight over them in the first place. I think that's a bit ridiculous tbh.

As for the rest, I've expressed my view numerous times, and the prospect of doing it again today bores me.

Counterpoint - it's meLo

[Spree2Houston]

Comparing the Knicks and Wolves right now is foolish because we’re missing Mitch, Precious, and to an extent Shamet while the Wolves are fully healthy. If we had those 3 right now, I can assure you we’re not 5-6 and our defense would be exponentially better. You can compare how the Knicks and Wolves look when they’re at full strength. Only a fool would argue about current Knicks to current Wolves.

[RHODEY]

A healthy Timelord would be the perfect 15-25 minute a night center for us.

Another candidate for trade I've kept my eye on is Norman Powell.. He's had a great start to the season. Decent defender. Could either come off the bench or start. Would jumpstart our offense a bit and provides some crazy shot making at times.

I’d be all over it, but Powell has a 19+ million contract. We only get there if we add Mitch, who is sorely missed. We’re never getting to 31 million for Zubac and Powell… and while Bamba is very interesting at 2.6 million, is he even a second stringer?

I'd rather have Norm than Mitch. I'd honestly rather have a lot of other trade targets than Mitch with this roster.

I'm not too interested in a KAT/Mitch pairing tbh. Our team would just become super slow (and we're already a very slow team) and I don't foresee Mitch having any role offensively with KAT around because:

A) KAT should be the one setting screens so we lose Mitch's lob threat and Brunson's not a great lob thrower anyway

B) If you stick Mitch in the dunker's spot, then his hands are terrible and his finishing has diminshed as his lower leg injuries have piled up. He really can only dunk the ball uncontested. He's also a pretty useless passer. Also, obviously his FT shooting is woeful. When thinking of the Knicks offense and how potent it could be, it's an easy cop out for teams to just foul Mitch and live with the 1 point per possession he'll likely provide.

Mitch to me is useless on this roster unless you're using him for 10-20 minutes a night as a backup 5 but that's a rather large salary chunk to use on a backup IMO. I'd rather see Precious in that role.

If you don't view him as a bench piece, then whose place is he taking in the SL? It has to be Hart right? Is Mitch better at basketball than Hart? IMO no... Does he provide more additive bonuses to that lineup than Hart does? IMO no.... He might stabilize the regular season defense more but, in the playoffs against a team like Boston or Indiana we'll get run off the floor playing KAT and Mitch together for long stretches so it's pointless to me and the Knicks are already a decent to good rebounding team without him.

I'd rather have eltie offensive rebounding and interior defense that Mitch provides over more scoring. This team is already tops in scoring.

And Mitch has great hands ....we just have had crappy lob passers since RJ left.

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[RHODEY]

Comparing the Knicks and Wolves right now is foolish because we’re missing Mitch, Precious, and to an extent Shamet while the Wolves are fully healthy. If we had those 3 right now, I can assure you we’re not 5-6 and our defense would be exponentially better. You can compare how the Knicks and Wolves look when they’re at full strength. Only a fool would argue about current Knicks to current Wolves.

Some dudes here treat Mitch the way the General Board treats the Knicks...he's been placed in the Sunken place...who he is and what he can contribute, just doesn't exist. Mitch is the Xfafctor to this teams ultimate success..

[3toheadmelo]

Part of it is his attitude and style of play. Sulking, doesn't get back on defense, gets angry at teammates. Takes awful shots.

Another part of it is that people just look for a scapegoat, just like we're doing with players now.

And the last part of it, it's a reaction to someone who acts like Randle is Jesus Christ himself and can do no wrong, so people counterbalance that **** cause it's annoying as hell.

I don't think the actions of others let alone a poster on Realgm dot com who prays five times a day to the inventor of Oreos should dictate how we view or treat players who didn't ask for people to fight over them in the first place. I think that's a bit ridiculous tbh.

As for the rest, I've expressed my view numerous times, and the prospect of doing it again today bores me.

Counterpoint - it's meLo

Watch on YouTube

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[thebuzzardman]

Comparing the Knicks and Wolves right now is foolish because we’re missing Mitch, Precious, and to an extent Shamet while the Wolves are fully healthy. If we had those 3 right now, I can assure you we’re not 5-6 and our defense would be exponentially better. You can compare how the Knicks and Wolves look when they’re at full strength. Only a fool would argue about current Knicks to current Wolves.

Some dudes here treat Mitch the way the General Board treats the Knicks...he's been placed in the Sunken place...who he is and what he can contribute, just doesn't exist. Mitch is the Xfafctor to this teams ultimate success..

He'll never suit up for the Knicks again

[Capn'O]

Randle is a good player with a unique skill set, but one who's hard to build with.

He's a terrible fit on Minnesota. It doesn't mean he's intrinsically a "bad" player.

Both Towns and Randle are good NBA players. Both have shortcomings. I think KAT is better, but I don't get this obsession with chitting on Randle after he helped put the Knicks franchise back on the right track.

Part of it is his attitude and style of play. Sulking, doesn't get back on defense, gets angry at teammates. Takes awful shots.

Another part of it is that people just look for a scapegoat, just like we're doing with players now.

And the last part of it, it's a reaction to someone who acts like Randle is Jesus Christ himself and can do no wrong, so people counterbalance that **** cause it's annoying as hell.

I don't think the actions of others let alone a poster on Realgm dot com who prays five times a day to the inventor of Oreos should dictate how we view or treat players who didn't ask for people to fight over them in the first place. I think that's a bit ridiculous tbh.

As for the rest, I've expressed my view numerous times, and the prospect of doing it again today bores me.

I'm just thrilled all of this isn't happening in our Knicks threads. Non-Knicks. Nanny nanny poo poo.