The Trae Young Dilemma

Trae is a mighty little big man. He has already proven these mouths wrong

Trae is only second to Oscar Rob as far as greatest pure PGs and his records prove it

Then there was the ECF that they almost won with a young Trae and and moderately talented team....

Post #168 » by **HMFFL** » Thu Nov 14, 2024 6:10 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:Trae...really needs to fire his PR Team.

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My gosh! LOL

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jayu70 · Post #169 » by **jayu70** » Thu Nov 14, 2024 6:40 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:

What have we looked like when Trae sits so far this season? I'm always curious about how the team plays during the non-Trae minutes. Yes you see guys like JJ, Dys etc. handle the ball more, (wevealso seen lots of TOs as well) but what do the numbers tell us?
There is a reason Trae was logging 40+ minute games with the inability of the non-Trae minutes to maintain a lead or keep it close.
I do think injured crew has a lot to do with where we are and the stupid schedule.

Post #170 » by **Jamaaliver** » Mon Nov 18, 2024 4:13 pm

Some League observers now placing Darius Garland over Trae after Cleveland's strong 15-0 start.

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Post #171 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Nov 21, 2024 8:29 pm

Wow

That is a choice.

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jayu70 · Post #172 » by **jayu70** » Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:54 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:Wow

That is a choice.

Choice indeed. Listing his contract status as the 'reason'

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Post #173 » by **Jamaaliver** » Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:24 pm

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Post #174 » by **Jamaaliver** » Wed Dec 4, 2024 2:21 pm

Is this just who Trae Young is now?

Does his shooting really matter when the passing is this historic?

Trae Young is, put plainly, having the worst shooting season of his career from the field, and that includes his rookie season when he was just getting his feet wet. His 46.9 effective field goal percentage is a career-worst, and it grades out even more grimly than that when comparing it to the more efficient league environment — an 87 eFG+ or 13 percent worse than league average shooting from the field.

A lot of the trouble boils down to finishing in high-trafficked areas. Young is having all kinds of trouble finishing inside the restricted area, for example — something he excelled at compared to other players of his size previously. He’s down to a 51% conversion rate inside the restricted area arc this season. That mark had rested anywhere from 55-60% every year since his rookie season.

Additionally, Young’s floater has absolutely abandoned him with him hitting just 35-of-76 of them for a 46% shooting percentage on those per shotcreator. This includes 24-of-59 (41%) of floaters in the paint but outside the restricted area.
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Trae is passing out of drives a sky-high 49% of the time, well up from 36% and 38% the last two seasons respectively. So, he’s clearly looking to create advantages, not for himself, but for others at a much higher rate this season.

All this has seemingly left him unwilling to probe inside the arc for his own shot. And so it follows that he has thus far topped a 50% three-point rate (the percent threes as a proportion of his field goals) for the first time in his career.

Ultimately, the Hawks’ offensive rating has dipped this season, but that may largely be a product of the units the team has had to deploy when Young is out of the game. Per PBPstats, the Hawks have a robust 115.6 offensive rating when Young is on the court and a not so robust 106.1 offensive rating otherwise.

So if the poor shooting isn’t dragging the Young-led offense down, something else is keeping it afloat, right?

Right. And that thing is very clearly his otherworldly passing.

The raw stats don’t lie. As of Tuesday afternoon, Trae Young led the league with 12.2 assists per game, a full 2.5 assists per game ahead of the second-place player Nikola Jokic.

When Young is finally past his Achilles issues, he’ll assuredly regress towards his career averages. Even still, he’s never been the most efficient player from the field. He’s someone that depends on craftiness to get to the line as a big prop up for his self-creation numbers even in the best of times.

So maybe it’s time to abandon hopes of him ever being a self-creation monster — at least one with elite efficiency. But Young also has the ability to be one of the most productive pass-first players this game has ever seen, as evidenced by this season and even ones previous to this one.

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Post #175 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Dec 12, 2024 3:21 am

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Post #176 » by **Jamaaliver** » Wed Dec 18, 2024 3:50 pm

Trae Young on his low shooting efficiency:

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Post #177 » by **HMFFL** » Wed Dec 25, 2024 3:38 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong but this is Trae's seventh season as a Hawk and I think Joe Johnson played seven seasons with us.

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jayu70 · Post #178 » by **jayu70** » Sat Dec 28, 2024 12:32 am

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Post #179 » by **Jamaaliver** » Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:16 pm

A big reason Trae's efficiency numbers are always so low...his inability to finish in the paint/at the rim. When his 3-pt shot abandons him, he is almost useless as a scorer in the halfcourt now because his floater game and layup package have devolved so poorly.

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Post #180 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Jan 23, 2025 6:19 pm

So
D*mn
Frustrating

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