Fake Trade Thread #6

[JMAC3]

ive about sold myself on Ingram if it only takes Bridges and light draft comp

I can't see Lee being interested in Mr. Midrange Brandon Ingram. 40%+ of his fga are coming in the midrange this year.

[KembaWalker]

ive about sold myself on Ingram if it only takes Bridges and light draft comp

I can't see Lee being interested in Mr. Midrange Brandon Ingram. 40%+ of his fga are coming in the midrange this year.

we can fix him

[JMAC3]

Cam Whitmore could be an interesting target similar to Tre Mann. Idk if Rockets would be moving him, but he currently isn’t in rotation and not getting the development he needs.

[JustBuzzin]

ive about sold myself on Ingram if it only takes Bridges and light draft comp

This is the move. Melo can't be the only shot creator in the starting unit. We need another ball handler/playmaker.

I would only give up 1 pick for Ingram tho as we also have to sign him to a long-term deal.

[JustBuzzin]

Cam Whitmore could be an interesting target similar to Tre Mann. Idk if Rockets would be moving him, but he currently isn’t in rotation and not getting the development he needs.

Rockets are waiting for a big name to become available. I doubt they trading their assets for anything other than a superstar. Whitmire could be used is a deal for Giannis with those picks and other young players.

I like Whitmore tho.

[KembaWalker]

ive about sold myself on Ingram if it only takes Bridges and light draft comp

This is the move. Melo can't be the only shot creator in the starting unit. We need another ball handler/playmaker.

I would only give up 1 pick for Ingram tho as we also have to sign him to a long-term deal.

Yeah I’m not gonna act like it’s the ideal fit tbh, but I don’t think this team is in the running for the best fit guys. And tbh I really just don’t mind out of the Miles Bridges business asap, for a guy that’s basically the same age and much more talented player, seems like a no brainer to me. I’m not a capologist but from experience I’m not too worried about missing the Hornets free agent experience.

[fatlever]

Cam Whitmore could be an interesting target similar to Tre Mann. Idk if Rockets would be moving him, but he currently isn’t in rotation and not getting the development he needs.

I was wondering if the rockets might be willing to move Jabari with both Eason and Whitmore ready

I'm sure the price would be high and no clue what they'd want that we could offer. Doubt they want more picks. I think Jabari might fit better than miles in this offense.

Miles and richards for Jabari

Picks and filler to even out on either side.

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[Diop]

Cam Whitmore could be an interesting target similar to Tre Mann. Idk if Rockets would be moving him, but he currently isn’t in rotation and not getting the development he needs.

I was wondering if the rockets might be willing to move Jabari with both Eason and Whitmore ready

I'm sure the price would be high and no clue what they'd want that we could offer. Doubt they want more picks. I think Jabari might fit better than miles in this offense.

Miles and richards for Jabari

Picks and filler to even out on either side.

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i dont see why Houston would want Miles, but yes please if they did

[KembaWalker]

The thing I dont like about the “let’s wait and see LaMelo stay healthy for a year before we commit to getting him help” is that it’s treating his health issues as a hurdle that can just be cleared and suddenly it’s in the rear view mirror and I don’t think it’s realistic to look at it like that

Melo could by some miracle play all 82 games this season, gain the faith that he’s worth building around, and then blow out his knee in game 1 of preseason next year. And we’ll just be sitting there miserably wishing we didn’t waste a year of a healthy 30 ppg superstar level season for nothing

The commitment is already made, he’s under contract. If he rolls his ankle tomorrow we aren’t going to trade him His health is gonna be a constant maintenance project for the rest of his career like every other player. Dude needs some help

[Diop]

The thing I dont like about the “let’s wait and see LaMelo stay healthy for a year before we commit to getting him help”

I don't think that's the case at all, the impression I get is that they want to build something here with the right culture and people.

doesn't mean you can just go out and buy all the players you want, you need teams willing to give up the decent players.

[yosemiteben]

The thing I dont like about the “let’s wait and see LaMelo stay healthy for a year before we commit to getting him help” is that it’s treating his health issues as a hurdle that can just be cleared and suddenly it’s in the rear view mirror and I don’t think it’s realistic to look at it like that

Melo could by some miracle play all 82 games this season, gain the faith that he’s worth building around, and then blow out his knee in game 1 of preseason next year. And we’ll just be sitting there miserably wishing we didn’t waste a year of a healthy 30 ppg superstar level season for nothing

The commitment is already made, he’s under contract. If he rolls his ankle tomorrow we aren’t going to trade him His health is gonna be a constant maintenance project for the rest of his career like every other player. Dude needs some help

I think that's a fair point about being committed to his contract regardless.

With that said, if Melo gets hurt and the wheels fall off, we're incentivized for that to happen this year so we keep our 1st, particular where there is allegedly a marquee draft in 2025. It makes perfect sense for us to treat this year as a get right year for Melo's health, where he actually has top tier medical and training resources committed to him building functional strength and keeping him healthy. Figure out what other pieces on the roster are worth investing in, continue to build on the Miller and Melo synergy, and give Lee a chance to make his imprint on our identity.

Our FO could not be more clear that they are committed to building a consistent contender. They have been proactive and intentional. They don't need to make a trade 10 games in the season just to prove they are committed to winning.

[MasterIchiro]

Glad to see a few come around on / circle back to Ingram.

Brandon Miller is not going to struggle forever, but I still believe in building out a roster with as many shot creators as possible.

But if I'm leading with a 1st round pick for a rental who may bolt, I'm attaching filler salary (Grant, Green, Micic) plus a B prospect (NSJ) instead of Miles.

The filler adds up to 35.9 mil which matches perfectly with Ingram (36.0). We cut 3 longterm contracts.

I think if your team has 3 top scorers like LaMelo, Miller and Ingram, and your 4 guy is Miles, you can sustain offense through injuries. 4 guys capable of averaging 20 PPG should be a workable offense for any coach, regardless if one of them operate in the midrange.

If a defense knows your offense does not take midrange shots, then they can focus on the arc. It's tough for Brandon. There is no center who can provide paint offense either.

LaMelo is top-5 in scoring and leading scorer among NBA point guards, doing it on high volume efficiency.

We need to cut dead weight and should not be forced to wait out 2-3 year deals to these mediocre talents that cheapen the top talent.

[MasterIchiro]

LaMelo is top-5 in scoring and leading scorer among NBA point guards, doing it on high volume efficiency.

This is a breakthrough season for him and tremendous feat given Mark took away paint offense and the coach subtracts midrange.

So Ingram would add an element of scoring threat that makes sense right now.

The defense can focus on LaMelo and Miller and chase them out on the perimeter. Miller's numbers show he's struggling with the defense concentrated on him.

LaMelo is an All-Star.

[JMAC3]

I would rather trade for Lavine then Ingram at this point and that is saying a lot. Nobody in the NBA is trying to pay either of those guys that type of money for just good players who have never won anything.

[MasterIchiro]

I would rather trade for Lavine then Ingram at this point and that is saying a lot. Nobody in the NBA is trying to pay either of those guys that type of money for just good players who have never won anything.

LaMelo is even better than them and he's won nothing.

Says nothing about LaMelo.

[KembaWalker]

Brandon Ingram has about as much playoff success at age 27 as this iteration of the franchise has in its entire history (playing in the JV conference no less)

not saying he'd turn us into a contender or anything but theres a minimum level of veteran basketball talent you need to have on your team before it starts becoming an actual detriment to the young guys and I'm not sure we're at that baseline

a lot of these spastic turnover possessions could be to converted to at least mediocre scoring possessions with BI or literally anyone else that is a decent half court offensive weapon

[JMAC3]

I would rather trade for Lavine then Ingram at this point and that is saying a lot. Nobody in the NBA is trying to pay either of those guys that type of money for just good players who have never won anything.

LaMelo is even better than them and he's won nothing.

Says nothing about LaMelo.

Right LaMelo is better, younger, makes less money than them moving forward.

People were worried about Bridges making 25 million per year, not sure how paying someone like Ingram 2x that isn't concerning.

[JustBuzzin]

Ingram right now is probably the most realistic star we could get that would actually wouldn't mind playing here. If we going to make a big trade this might be the most realistic situation. Ingram being from NC he probably wouldn't mind a trade close to home.

Maybe Philly decides to blow it up and Paul George becomes available. That's probably the only other situation I can see for us.

[JMAC3]

Ingram right now is probably the most realistic star we could get that would actually wouldn't mind playing here. If we going to make a big trade this might be the most realistic situation. Ingram being from NC he probably wouldn't mind a trade close to home.

Maybe Philly decides to blow it up and Paul George becomes available. That's probably the only other situation I can see for us.

Guys currently available
Lavine
Ingram

Guys who might become available
Trae Young
Giannis
Embiid
Markkanen
Michael Porter Jr
Sengun/Jalen Green
Jimmy Butler
Zion

I would rather just wait and see where things are then handcuff our flexiblity to a Lavine or Ingram type. Giannis is probably a wild long shot, but we could potentially be in play in the others cost wise.

[HornetJail]

Ingram right now is probably the most realistic star we could get that would actually wouldn't mind playing here. If we going to make a big trade this might be the most realistic situation. Ingram being from NC he probably wouldn't mind a trade close to home.

Maybe Philly decides to blow it up and Paul George becomes available. That's probably the only other situation I can see for us.

if Ingram wants to be here, we can create cap space easy enough and just sign him, rather than give up assets to give him a Batum-deluxe contract.

None of Martin/Richards/Micic are owed anything. we can move any of Grant/Green and sign basically anyone we want