MalagaBulls wrote:So Bulls forum, how are we feeling about Zach's trade value either at the TDL or the off season? 2 future protected FRP's or 1 unprotected littery FRP this year?
Highly unlikely.
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MalagaBulls wrote:So Bulls forum, how are we feeling about Zach's trade value either at the TDL or the off season? 2 future protected FRP's or 1 unprotected littery FRP this year?

Muzbar wrote:MalagaBulls wrote:So Bulls forum, how are we feeling about Zach's trade value either at the TDL or the off season? 2 future protected FRP's or 1 unprotected littery FRP this year?
Highly unlikely.
ChiTownHero1992 wrote:Muzbar wrote:MalagaBulls wrote:So Bulls forum, how are we feeling about Zach's trade value either at the TDL or the off season? 2 future protected FRP's or 1 unprotected littery FRP this year?
Highly unlikely.
I'm thinking a late 1st and expirings or multiple Ok players and multiple second rounders (ala Bradley Beal trade maybe a pick swap added for Zach). I don't think there is a chance in hell we get a lotto 1st or even multiple 1st rounders for him, he is what he is.

bledredwine wrote:There were 3 times Jordan won and was considered the underdog
1989 Eastern Conference Finals against the Detroit Pistons, the 1991 NBA Finals against the Magic Johnson-led Los Angeles Lakers, and the 1995 Eastern Conference Finals against the NY Knicks
sco wrote:ChiTownHero1992 wrote:Muzbar wrote:Highly unlikely.
I'm thinking a late 1st and expirings or multiple Ok players and multiple second rounders (ala Bradley Beal trade maybe a pick swap added for Zach). I don't think there is a chance in hell we get a lotto 1st or even multiple 1st rounders for him, he is what he is.
I really want to sell high and think that will be at the deadline, BUT I think the size of his deal will ultimately cause his trade to be pushed to the offseason (which, because it's Zach, will be lower due to some injury or another).The related issue is that the teams who would likely have interest mostly lack assets/cap space (i.e. are in the 2nd apron) to make the deal work.
I think right now he's worth 2 lotto protected 1sts (or 1 lotto protected 1st and a starting-caliber young player) plus expirings.
bledredwine wrote:There were 3 times Jordan won and was considered the underdog
1989 Eastern Conference Finals against the Detroit Pistons, the 1991 NBA Finals against the Magic Johnson-led Los Angeles Lakers, and the 1995 Eastern Conference Finals against the NY Knicks
ScrantonBulls wrote:sco wrote:ChiTownHero1992 wrote:
I'm thinking a late 1st and expirings or multiple Ok players and multiple second rounders (ala Bradley Beal trade maybe a pick swap added for Zach). I don't think there is a chance in hell we get a lotto 1st or even multiple 1st rounders for him, he is what he is.
I really want to sell high and think that will be at the deadline, BUT I think the size of his deal will ultimately cause his trade to be pushed to the offseason (which, because it's Zach, will be lower due to some injury or another).The related issue is that the teams who would likely have interest mostly lack assets/cap space (i.e. are in the 2nd apron) to make the deal work.
I think right now he's worth 2 lotto protected 1sts (or 1 lotto protected 1st and a starting-caliber young player) plus expirings.
Look what Mikal Bridges got. 4 unprotected 1sts, an unprotected swap in 2028 and the bucks 2025 1st. Absolutely wild trade return. Salaries obviously differ and Bridges is a better player, but I don't think he's vastly superior. If Zach keeps playing well, I think we'll get a surprisingly good trade package.
You aren't far off IMO. I think he may get an unprotected 1st and a protected 1st.

sco wrote:ScrantonBulls wrote:sco wrote:I really want to sell high and think that will be at the deadline, BUT I think the size of his deal will ultimately cause his trade to be pushed to the offseason (which, because it's Zach, will be lower due to some injury or another).The related issue is that the teams who would likely have interest mostly lack assets/cap space (i.e. are in the 2nd apron) to make the deal work.
I think right now he's worth 2 lotto protected 1sts (or 1 lotto protected 1st and a starting-caliber young player) plus expirings.
Look what Mikal Bridges got. 4 unprotected 1sts, an unprotected swap in 2028 and the bucks 2025 1st. Absolutely wild trade return. Salaries obviously differ and Bridges is a better player, but I don't think he's vastly superior. If Zach keeps playing well, I think we'll get a surprisingly good trade package.
You aren't far off IMO. I think he may get an unprotected 1st and a protected 1st.
I would be pleasantly surprised. And you're right, you just need a team who is "all in" on winning now.

Muzbar wrote:This is my take on all 29 other teams as potential suitors for Zach LaVine:
Atlanta: The Hawks have multiple guards and Dyson Daniels seems to have taken a leap plus I'm not certain Zach is a good fit next to Trae. They do have a few contracts in Hunter, Capela etc that can match Zach salary however.
Boston: I don't see a fit whatsoever with Boston unless they think Jaylen Brown is a cheaper but lateral swap.
Brooklyn: The Nets seem to be on the rebuild/tanking path, so I don't see them as a potential partner. They do however have multiple contracts that can be used to match Zachs salary in Claxton, Bogdanovic, Simmons (yuck) and Schröder. Maybe as a third team.
Charlotte: The Hornets are good fit wise for Zach IMO and they do have some contracts in Miles Bridges :nonono: , Josh Green and Grant Williams, but I'm not sure they'd trade Bridges plus one of those for Zach.
Cleveland: With Garland and Mitchell on board already I don't see a fit with the Cavs
Dallas: The Mavericks have contracts that could be used in a trade in PJ Washington, Maxi Kleber, Naji Marshall and potentially Klay Thompson. But seeing as they just acquired Klay, I don't think they'd let him go so quickly so Dallas isn't really a landing spot.
Denver: Denver is actually one of the places I could see LaVine landing but it would mean MJP returning to Chicago which I think they'd be unlikely to do and Denver hasn't really got any picks to include in any deals either.
Detroit: I think the LaVine to Detroit ship sailed last season. The Pistons are playing quite well this season and the only decent sized contracts they have to match Zachs salary are Tobias Harris, Tim Hardaway Jr. and Isaiah Stewart, they also have multiple young pieces, but who knows.
Golden State: I think the Warriors dropped out of the Zach race the moment they waived CP3s unguaranteed contract. They'd have to include Wiggins in most scenarios as otherwise they'd have to include 4 or more contracts to reach his salary.
Houston: There isn't a fit on the Rockets, they have a younger version Zach in Jalen Green plus I think they have their eyes on a bigger prize.
Indiana: The Pacers have a bunch of guards and Benedict Mathurin has had an emergence of sorts this season. They also lack realistic contracts to match Zachs.
LAC: I'm not sure the Clippers are a good landing spot either, they have contracts to match in Norm Powell, PJ Tucker and Derrick Jones Jr., but Norm has been on a tear, he's the Clippers leading scorer and is paid half of what LaVine is and his contractvis shorter.
LAL: I think this is the most likely landing spot for Zach, the Lakers have the contracts in D'Angelo Russell, Rui Hachimura, Gabe Vincent and Jarred Vanderbilt (and Austin Reaves, but they're unlikely to trade him) and they'd definitely have a use for him.
Miami: The Heat already have a similar player on a cheaper contract in Tyler Herro, they don't really have a need for Zach despite contracts to match his deal in Herro, Duncan Robinson and Terry Rozier.
Bucks The Bucks are very unlikely to trade for Zach, he'd be a bad fit next to Dame and doubtful they'd trade Dame for him they also can't aggregate salaries to acquire a single player.
Minnesota: The Wolves have Ant Edwards so I don't see a need for Zach back in Minnesota.
New Orleans: With CJ McCollum already on board there isn't much of a need for Zach on the Pelicans, I'd personally would mind a three way deal with Ingram coming to Chicago and Zach going to a third team.
New York: The Knicks have sufficient guards and don't really have need for Zach, plus they don't really have realistic contracts they could include in a deal.
Oklahoma City: The Thunder don't have the contracts (unless they include Hartenstein) nor are they a good fit with the abundance of guards including SGA.
Orlando: Orlando I think are a good fit but they signed KCP to play their 2 guard spot plus they just forked out a big contract to Suggs so they're unlikely to be a suitor.
Philadelphia: The Sixers would have to combine more than 4 contracts, they aren't a suitor.
Phoenix: The Suns already have an overpaid injury prone guard in Bradley Beal plus they also have Booker, they aren't an option.
Portland: The Blazers are another team with a glut of guards and no real need for LaVine.
Sacramento: The Kings now lack contracts in order to make a deal for Zach, especially after acquiring DeRozan.
San Antonio: The Spurs have a few contracts in Zach Collins, Harrison Barnes, Keldon Johnson and Devin Vassell. They're unlikely to trade Vassell for Zach and they both play the same position.
Toronto: The Raptors are rebuilding and have a bunch of young guards, they aren't a good trade partner.
Utah: Another rebuilding team, The Jazz don't really have a need for Zach but they'd be interesting as a third team as they have a few contracts in John Collins and Jordan Clarkson to match his salary.
Washington: Once again, another rebuilding team. The Wizards aren't a good fit, they have Jordan Poole anyways.
The biggest issue amongst it all is matching Zachs salary whilst the other team doesn't lose too much depth or committing a lateral move.
My prediction is Zach will end up with the Lakers in some sort of 3 way deal.

DuckIII wrote:Interesting new article from Ricky O’Donnell about how the Lakers’ free fall can only be cured through trades and the identifying Zach Lavine as the first and most obvious player to target.
They discuss other options, second on the list of likely partners being the Nets. Buts it’s a through discussion, not some superficial tweet dressed up as an article:
https://apple.news/Am2K4GFSTT1eMt-kzr1M6qA

DuckIII wrote:Interesting new article from Ricky O’Donnell about how the Lakers’ free fall can only be cured through trades and the identifying Zach Lavine as the first and most obvious player to target.
They discuss other options, second on the list of likely partners being the Nets. Buts it’s a through discussion, not some superficial tweet dressed up as an article:
https://apple.news/Am2K4GFSTT1eMt-kzr1M6qA
Jcool0 wrote:aguifs wrote:Do we have a friggin plan?
If the Bulls do, you would be complaining to much to ever hear it.
Hangtime84 wrote:Zach is here for a while no team can really trade for him outside of Pelicans, Spurs or Hornets.

Chi town wrote:With the emergence of Knecht I see no way Zach goes to the Lakers.
Jcool0 wrote:Chi town wrote:With the emergence of Knecht I see no way Zach goes to the Lakers.
Last 7 games: 10 ppg on 38% shooting and 30% from 3. Lakers are 2-5. What emergence?
Muzbar wrote:Hangtime84 wrote:Zach is here for a while no team can really trade for him outside of Pelicans, Spurs or Hornets.
The Lakers can definitely trade for him, as can the Clippers.
If you're trading with the Pels you're either taking back Ingram or McCollum (they don't have other contracts that near his salary other than Zion.
The Spurs don't really have a spot for him with Castle, CP3, Vassell and others at their guard spots.
And the Hornets only realistically have 3 contracts in which to match his salary (Bridges, Green and Grant Williams).
LaVine to the Lakers is going to happen, IMO.